---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/25/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:03 AM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/24/12 (John Lawton) 2. 05:03 AM - Re: type certified engines (Thom Riddle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:03 AM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/24/12 From: John Lawton >>>>>>The military is probably the only customer.<<<<<< On particular aircraft series sold in the USA I am aware of that uses Type Certified Rotax engines is the Aeromot Ximango motorglider. (pronounced "she-mongo") The AMT 100 Ximango uses the 80 hp 912, the AMT 200S Super Ximango uses the 100 hp 912s, and AMT300 Ximango Shark uses the 115 hp turbo 914. All three airframes are identical except for the engine. Ximangos are Type Certified in the USA (and 26 other countries), and most were built with type certified Rotax 9XX engines in them. I was told by the owner of Aeromot when I visited the factory last year that the only exceptions were for about 8-10 of the very earliest versions which were built with the Limbach VW derivative. Aeromot changed to the Rotax early on after having severe issues with shock cooling on the Limbach. (cracked heads, cranks and cylinders). To my knowledge there is one Ximango flying with a Jabiru 3300 engine (IIRC in Australia) and it is one of the earlier ones that was originally built with the Limbach. Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) Europa N245E - Jaibiru 3300 Super Ximango - Rotax 912s ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:05 AM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: type certified engines From: "Thom Riddle" The type certificated Rotax 912 engines are built on the same assembly line as the UL engines but there are some very minor differences, other than the paper-trail. The type certificated 912 F3 engine in the Diamond Katana I've been maintaining for several years has two springs on the throttle arm of the carbs instead of just one. It also has aircraft aluminum fuel tubing from the distribution block to the two carbs instead of of flexible hose. The return line to the tank also has braided SS tubing but this last bit is an airframe specific item that may be peculiar to the Diamond. The other fuel line from the firewall to the mechanical pump is regular flexible hose as is the hose from the mechanical pump to the distribution block. The coolant hoses appear to be identical but the oil hoses, instead of being standard push-on type are made-up hoses with special end fittings, also Diamond specific. The Katana also has an airframe specific air shroud over the top of the cylinders which ducts air directly from the cowl inlet to the cylinders. Although the vast majority of the parts are identical, when I order replacement parts I must specify Certificated to get the required paperwork that keeps the Diamond legal. Of course Lockwood gets a higher price for these paper-trail parts. http://sites.google.com/site/riddletr/a&pmechanix -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371769#371769 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.