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1. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: exhaust system modification (Lynn Matteson)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Re: exhaust system modification (Carl Meek)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: exhaust system modification (Dennis W. Wilt)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: exhaust system modification (Mark Hubelbank)
5. 08:51 AM - Withdrawal from the group (Float Flyr)
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust system modification |
I gotcha, Bob....this morning that heat muff felt really good in the
46 degree morning air....quite a change from Mondays' 90!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with 1284 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
do not archive
On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Bob Haas wrote:
> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>
> Lynn, Makes sense to me. Right now I would have to
> 15000 ft. or higher to justify a heat muff. My aircraft only flies
> in the confines of the
> Florida Peninsula, no heat required. Bob Haas.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:26 PM
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: exhaust system modification
>
> Thanks, Bob. The other reason that I did not try to "tune" the
> primary pipes to the suggested 32" was because of the problem of
> wrapping a heat muff around the pair of pipes on each side. If I had
> added some "extender bends" to the rear pipes, the heat muff would
> have been the size of a 55-gallon barrel. Here's a picture of the
> heat muffs prior to welding on the in and out tubes, which are now
> finished and installed:
>
>
> Now that I look at the picture again, the heat muffs will stay the
> same regardless of what I do to the Jabiru original rear primary
> pipes, as long as I do it before the slip-joint....Duhhh!! (sometimes
> I engage the fingers before the brain) Let me start again....the
> main reason that I did not make all pipes the same length was to be
> able to expedite the job, and get back to flying.
>
> By the way, Burns' Stainless sells the tabs and springs (called
> beehive springs, I think) and also sells stainless steel tabs which
> sit side-by-side on the to-be-connected pipes and are held together
> by a bolt.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062
> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
> Status: flying with 1280 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Bob Haas wrote:
>
>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>
>> Hey Lynn That is a positive move. I extended the
>> pipes from the two into one junction and added approximately 24
>> inches of extension
>> each side. I used motorcycle tabs and springs to support the
>> additional weight. It is not tuned but it's not too loud, and no
>> cracks in about a 100
>> hours. I like your idea though. N 380 BH Alpi Pioneer Jabiru 2200.
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust system modification |
While are on the topic of heat muffs, does anyone know where I can buy one
(or two!) for a Jabiru 3300?
I've not found a supplier who has them.
Thanks,
-Carl.
On 13/06/2012 13:49, "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
>I gotcha, Bob....this morning that heat muff felt really good in the
>46 degree morning air....quite a change from Mondays' 90!
>
>Lynn Matteson
>Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>Jabiru 2200, #2062
>Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
>Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
>Status: flying with 1284 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>do not archive
>
>
>On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Bob Haas wrote:
>
>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>
>> Lynn, Makes sense to me. Right now I would have to
>> 15000 ft. or higher to justify a heat muff. My aircraft only flies
>> in the confines of the
>> Florida Peninsula, no heat required. Bob Haas.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:26 PM
>> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: exhaust system modification
>>
>> Thanks, Bob. The other reason that I did not try to "tune" the
>> primary pipes to the suggested 32" was because of the problem of
>> wrapping a heat muff around the pair of pipes on each side. If I had
>> added some "extender bends" to the rear pipes, the heat muff would
>> have been the size of a 55-gallon barrel. Here's a picture of the
>> heat muffs prior to welding on the in and out tubes, which are now
>> finished and installed:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now that I look at the picture again, the heat muffs will stay the
>> same regardless of what I do to the Jabiru original rear primary
>> pipes, as long as I do it before the slip-joint....Duhhh!! (sometimes
>> I engage the fingers before the brain) Let me start again....the
>> main reason that I did not make all pipes the same length was to be
>> able to expedite the job, and get back to flying.
>>
>> By the way, Burns' Stainless sells the tabs and springs (called
>> beehive springs, I think) and also sells stainless steel tabs which
>> sit side-by-side on the to-be-connected pipes and are held together
>> by a bolt.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062
>> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
>> Status: flying with 1280 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Bob Haas wrote:
>>
>>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Hey Lynn That is a positive move. I extended the
>>> pipes from the two into one junction and added approximately 24
>>> inches of extension
>>> each side. I used motorcycle tabs and springs to support the
>>> additional weight. It is not tuned but it's not too loud, and no
>>> cracks in about a 100
>>> hours. I like your idea though. N 380 BH Alpi Pioneer Jabiru 2200.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust system modification |
I would think that you could get one from the dealer.
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Meek <carlmeek@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 8:58 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: exhaust system modification
While are on the topic of heat muffs, does anyone know where I can buy one
or two!) for a Jabiru 3300?
've not found a supplier who has them.
Thanks,
Carl.
On 13/06/2012 13:49, "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
I gotcha, Bob....this morning that heat muff felt really good in the
46 degree morning air....quite a change from Mondays' 90!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with 1284 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
do not archive
On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Bob Haas wrote:
> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>
> Lynn, Makes sense to me. Right now I would have to
> 15000 ft. or higher to justify a heat muff. My aircraft only flies
> in the confines of the
> Florida Peninsula, no heat required. Bob Haas.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:26 PM
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: exhaust system modification
>
> Thanks, Bob. The other reason that I did not try to "tune" the
> primary pipes to the suggested 32" was because of the problem of
> wrapping a heat muff around the pair of pipes on each side. If I had
> added some "extender bends" to the rear pipes, the heat muff would
> have been the size of a 55-gallon barrel. Here's a picture of the
> heat muffs prior to welding on the in and out tubes, which are now
> finished and installed:
>
>
> Now that I look at the picture again, the heat muffs will stay the
> same regardless of what I do to the Jabiru original rear primary
> pipes, as long as I do it before the slip-joint....Duhhh!! (sometimes
> I engage the fingers before the brain) Let me start again....the
> main reason that I did not make all pipes the same length was to be
> able to expedite the job, and get back to flying.
>
> By the way, Burns' Stainless sells the tabs and springs (called
> beehive springs, I think) and also sells stainless steel tabs which
> sit side-by-side on the to-be-connected pipes and are held together
> by a bolt.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062
> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
> Status: flying with 1280 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Bob Haas wrote:
>
>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>
>> Hey Lynn That is a positive move. I extended the
>> pipes from the two into one junction and added approximately 24
>> inches of extension
>> each side. I used motorcycle tabs and springs to support the
>> additional weight. It is not tuned but it's not too loud, and no
>> cracks in about a 100
>> hours. I like your idea though. N 380 BH Alpi Pioneer Jabiru 2200.
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: exhaust system modification |
Carl,
If you want one which will fit on the pipe coming out of the
muffler instead of one that goes on the muffler and spans a possibly
leaky weld (don't ask), you can contact:
sales@aircraftexhaust.net
They can supply one of almost any size.
I now have one which I took off the muffler but can't really recommend
it for anyone.
On 06/13/2012 8:57 AM, Carl Meek wrote:
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Carl Meek<carlmeek@gmail.com>
>
> While are on the topic of heat muffs, does anyone know where I can buy one
> (or two!) for a Jabiru 3300?
> I've not found a supplier who has them.
>
> Thanks,
> -Carl.
>
> On 13/06/2012 13:49, "Lynn Matteson"<lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
>> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson<lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> I gotcha, Bob....this morning that heat muff felt really good in the
>> 46 degree morning air....quite a change from Mondays' 90!
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062
>> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
>> Status: flying with 1284 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Bob Haas wrote:
>>
>>> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Bob Haas"
>>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Lynn, Makes sense to me. Right now I would have to
>>> 15000 ft. or higher to justify a heat muff. My aircraft only flies
>>> in the confines of the
>>> Florida Peninsula, no heat required. Bob Haas.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:26 PM
>>> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: exhaust system modification
>>>
>>> Thanks, Bob. The other reason that I did not try to "tune" the
>>> primary pipes to the suggested 32" was because of the problem of
>>> wrapping a heat muff around the pair of pipes on each side. If I had
>>> added some "extender bends" to the rear pipes, the heat muff would
>>> have been the size of a 55-gallon barrel. Here's a picture of the
>>> heat muffs prior to welding on the in and out tubes, which are now
>>> finished and installed:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that I look at the picture again, the heat muffs will stay the
>>> same regardless of what I do to the Jabiru original rear primary
>>> pipes, as long as I do it before the slip-joint....Duhhh!! (sometimes
>>> I engage the fingers before the brain) Let me start again....the
>>> main reason that I did not make all pipes the same length was to be
>>> able to expedite the job, and get back to flying.
>>>
>>> By the way, Burns' Stainless sells the tabs and springs (called
>>> beehive springs, I think) and also sells stainless steel tabs which
>>> sit side-by-side on the to-be-connected pipes and are held together
>>> by a bolt.
>>>
>>> Lynn Matteson
>>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>>> Jabiru 2200, #2062
>>> Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
>>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>>> Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
>>> Status: flying with 1280 hrs... (since 3-27-2006)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Bob Haas wrote:
>>>
>>>> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Bob Haas"
>>>> <checkpoint2@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Lynn That is a positive move. I extended the
>>>> pipes from the two into one junction and added approximately 24
>>>> inches of extension
>>>> each side. I used motorcycle tabs and springs to support the
>>>> additional weight. It is not tuned but it's not too loud, and no
>>>> cracks in about a 100
>>>> hours. I like your idea though. N 380 BH Alpi Pioneer Jabiru 2200.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Mark Hubelbank
NorthEast Monitoring
2 Clock Tower Place
Suite 555
Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA
mhubel@nemon.com
978-443-3955
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| Subject: | Withdrawal from the group |
About two weeks ago I had a major fire here. Caused by, so they say, a faulty
extension cord.
For the time of being I am going to withdraw from all my aviation lists within
the next few days.
I hope you all continue to post and fly safely.
Clear skies
Noel
--------
Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats
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