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1. 04:59 AM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/05/13 (Danal)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 05/05/13 (Danal)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: Crankcase vent (Colin Hudson)
4. 12:11 PM - Re: Sensenich prop (Gary Aman)
5. 12:48 PM - Re: Sensenich prop (Joe Cardella)
6. 08:26 PM - Re: Sensenich prop (GARY BARNETT)
7. 08:45 PM - Re: Sensenich prop (Geoff Eather)
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I have that prop on a 3300 on a CH750, and have adjusted it several times to fine
tune things. What questions do you have?
Danal
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> 1. 06:14 PM - Re: Crankcase vent (Gary Aman)
> 2. 08:30 PM - Sensenich prop (chuck960)
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> Time: 06:14:16 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
> From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
>
> C-----Original Message-----From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>To: jabirueng
> ine-list <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Colin,
> I have an early 2200a on my mk3c.That means mine has the shallow oil pan.It
> has a vent system that is piped to a pint bottle behind the seat at floor
> level and a second pipe through a 90 degree fitting and hose that extends t
> hrough lid and then out the bottom of the fuselage
>
>
> .I had to vacuum that bottle every 10 hrs or so to keep it from over flowi
> ng.It was about half water on the bottom and half oil on the top.I tried a
> pcv valve in an up hill section of the vent line and it helped some, but I
> built a 1"by 2" by 6 in high 5 vane separator that stands vertical with the
> 1/2 in.connection tubes both angled slightly down hill. I now have only w
> ater in the catch bottle.I'll try to find a picture of it and send it to yo
> u on the list.
> G.Aman MK3C jabiru 2200A 800hrs
>
>
> ..
>
> Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 9:41 pm
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
>
>
> Colin:
>
>
> I have a few tricks you can try - They are dependent on how your breather t
> ube is configured and how the engine is mounted:
>
>
> Coming off the engine use a flexible rubber hose and put a "pigtail" in the
> run. A 360 Deg circle.
> Again with the flexible hose install a PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation)
> Valve as HIGH as possible in the tube above the height of the engine and m
> ake sure the check valve points down in the closed position.
> If you have say a 5/8" hose for the breather tube - Reduce it near the end
> tio half the size. You can use a step type fitting.
> Face the Breather Hose INTO the oncoming wind.
> And of course you can use any combination of this ideas.
>
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> mail.com>
>
>
>> I'm running a jabiru 2200, pusher configuration, engine exposed in a Kolb
> Mark 3x-tra. The engine doesn't burn any oil but I get a lot of blow by o
> n each flight from the crankcase breather tube. I'm sure with the engine e
> xposed the airflow over the vent is causing a vacuum and sucks it out. The
> vent reservoir doesn't trap the oil. Any one have a way to allow the cran
> kcase to breath with out loosing a lot of oil? Sure get tired of cleaning
> oil off the tail feathers each time I fly
>
> Colin Hudson
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> Time: 08:30:13 PM PST US
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
> From: "chuck960" <chuckde@roadrunner.com>
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable carbon prop
on
> the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to dial up the rpm's a
> bit to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while ago about static rpm's being
> 2500 at most. I have to push it to see 3000 in flight. I've been cruising the
> neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This is with the sensenich 64X47.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
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I have that prop on a 3300 on a CH750, and have adjusted it several times to fine
tune things. What questions do you have?
Danal
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> 1. 06:14 PM - Re: Crankcase vent (Gary Aman)
> 2. 08:30 PM - Sensenich prop (chuck960)
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> Time: 06:14:16 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
> From: Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com>
>
> C-----Original Message-----From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>To: jabirueng
> ine-list <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Colin,
> I have an early 2200a on my mk3c.That means mine has the shallow oil pan.It
> has a vent system that is piped to a pint bottle behind the seat at floor
> level and a second pipe through a 90 degree fitting and hose that extends t
> hrough lid and then out the bottom of the fuselage
>
>
> .I had to vacuum that bottle every 10 hrs or so to keep it from over flowi
> ng.It was about half water on the bottom and half oil on the top.I tried a
> pcv valve in an up hill section of the vent line and it helped some, but I
> built a 1"by 2" by 6 in high 5 vane separator that stands vertical with the
> 1/2 in.connection tubes both angled slightly down hill. I now have only w
> ater in the catch bottle.I'll try to find a picture of it and send it to yo
> u on the list.
> G.Aman MK3C jabiru 2200A 800hrs
>
>
> ..
>
> Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 9:41 pm
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
>
>
> Colin:
>
>
> I have a few tricks you can try - They are dependent on how your breather t
> ube is configured and how the engine is mounted:
>
>
> Coming off the engine use a flexible rubber hose and put a "pigtail" in the
> run. A 360 Deg circle.
> Again with the flexible hose install a PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation)
> Valve as HIGH as possible in the tube above the height of the engine and m
> ake sure the check valve points down in the closed position.
> If you have say a 5/8" hose for the breather tube - Reduce it near the end
> tio half the size. You can use a step type fitting.
> Face the Breather Hose INTO the oncoming wind.
> And of course you can use any combination of this ideas.
>
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> mail.com>
>
>
>> I'm running a jabiru 2200, pusher configuration, engine exposed in a Kolb
> Mark 3x-tra. The engine doesn't burn any oil but I get a lot of blow by o
> n each flight from the crankcase breather tube. I'm sure with the engine e
> xposed the airflow over the vent is causing a vacuum and sucks it out. The
> vent reservoir doesn't trap the oil. Any one have a way to allow the cran
> kcase to breath with out loosing a lot of oil? Sure get tired of cleaning
> oil off the tail feathers each time I fly
>
> Colin Hudson
>
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> st
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> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:30:13 PM PST US
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
> From: "chuck960" <chuckde@roadrunner.com>
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable carbon prop
on
> the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to dial up the rpm's a
> bit to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while ago about static rpm's being
> 2500 at most. I have to push it to see 3000 in flight. I've been cruising the
> neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This is with the sensenich 64X47.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crankcase vent |
Gary I'd like to see those pictures. You can send them to my private email
at:
colin.scott.hudson@gmail.com
Sounds like you not only solved the lose of oil problem, but also the
crankcase moisture problem.
Colin
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Gary Aman <zeprep251@aol.com> wrote:
> C-----Original Message-----From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>To:
> jabiruengine-list <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Colin,
> I have an early 2200a on my mk3c.That means mine has the shallow oil
> pan.It has a vent system that is piped to a pint bottle behind the seat at
> floor level and a second pipe through a 90 degree fitting and hose that
> extends through lid and then out the bottom of the fuselage
>
> .I had to vacuum that bottle every 10 hrs or so to keep it from over
> flowing.It was about half water on the bottom and half oil on the top.I
> tried a pcv valve in an up hill section of the vent line and it helped
> some, but I built a 1"by 2" by 6 in high 5 vane separator that stands
> vertical with the 1/2 in.connection tubes both angled slightly down hill.
> I now have only water in the catch bottle.I'll try to find a picture of it
> and send it to you on the list.
> G.Aman MK3C jabiru 2200A 800hrs
>
>
> .
> Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 9:41 pm
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
>
> Colin:
>
> I have a few tricks you can try - They are dependent on how your
> breather tube is configured and how the engine is mounted:
>
>
> 1. Coming off the engine use a flexible rubber hose and put a
> "pigtail" in the run. A 360 Deg circle.
> 2. Again with the flexible hose install a PCV
> (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) Valve as HIGH as possible in the tube
> above the height of the engine and make sure the check valve points down in
> the closed position.
> 3. If you have say a 5/8" hose for the breather tube - Reduce it near
> the end tio half the size. You can use a step type fitting.
> 4. Face the Breather Hose INTO the oncoming wind.
> 5. And of course you can use any combination of this ideas.
>
> *Barry*
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> colin.scott.hudson@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> > I'm running a jabiru 2200, pusher configuration, engine exposed in a
>> Kolb Mark 3x-tra. The engine doesn't burn any oil but I get a lot of blow
>> by on each flight from the crankcase breather tube. I'm sure with the
>> engine exposed the airflow over the vent is causing a vacuum and sucks it
>> out. The vent reservoir doesn't trap the oil. Any one have a way to allow
>> the crankcase to breath with out loosing a lot of oil? Sure get tired of
>> cleaning oil off the tail feathers each time I fly
>>
>> Colin Hudson
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| Subject: | Re: Sensenich prop |
Chuck,
Try (vlingerjr@aol.com).Thats what he is running on his 601.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: chuck960 <chuckde@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 11:30 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
>
Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable carbon pr
op on
the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to dial up the rpm's a
bit
to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while ago about static rpm's being
2500
at most. I have to push it to see 3000 in flight. I've been cruising the
neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This is with the sensenich 64X47.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
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I have the Sensenich white ground adj prop on my Rans S-7S with a 3300 Jab.
Cruises at 105 MPH and climbs at 1000 feet per minute. Works great!!
Joe in Michigan
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
Chuck,
Try (vlingerjr@aol.com).Thats what he is running on his 601.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: chuck960 <chuckde@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 11:30 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable carbon
prop on
the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to dial up the rpm's a
bit
to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while ago about static rpm's being
2500
at most. I have to push it to see 3000 in flight. I've been cruising the
neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This is with the sensenich 64X47.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List
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ChuckI have one on my Lightning SN 133 It works well. I have mine set to 2
650 RPM on takeoff and that gives me more than adequate power. Full thrott
le it turns 3150. If you look at the Jab 3300 power curves you do not get
a great deal of power increase after about 3100 RPM. The only quirk in its
operation is at low idle RPM where=2C due to its low rotational mass you c
an feel the individual power pulses as slightly rough running. At cruise R
PM it is as smooth as a turbine. Gary Barnett
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
> From: chuckde@roadrunner.com
> Date: Sun=2C 5 May 2013 20:29:25 -0700
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>
om>
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable carbon
prop on the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to dial up the
rpm's a bit to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while ago about static
rpm's being 2500 at most. I have to push it to see 3000 in flight. I've be
en cruising the neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This is with the sensenic
h 64X47.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sensenich prop |
Chuck,
I also have a Senenich ground adjustable on a Lightning (Kit 127) with
Jabiru 3300 and have made several adjustments over the last few weeks.
Best compromise I could get was 2700 on take off, 2850 on climb at 85
Knts, 3150 WOT. This gave 110 Knt (IAS) cruise at 2850.
Each adjustment mark is 4 degrees (or 12 inches geometric pitch).
Adjustments of 1/2 degree were probably too much, needed to use 1/4
degree to tweak it just right. A digit protractor helps!!
Sounds like you need to fine it up a fraction
Geoff
On 07/05/2013, at 1:26 PM, GARY BARNETT wrote:
> Chuck
> I have one on my Lightning SN 133 It works well. I have mine set to
2650 RPM on takeoff and that gives me more than adequate power. Full
throttle it turns 3150. If you look at the Jab 3300 power curves you do
not get a great deal of power increase after about 3100 RPM. The only
quirk in its operation is at low idle RPM where, due to its low
rotational mass you can feel the individual power pulses as slightly
rough running. At cruise RPM it is as smooth as a turbine. Gary
Barnett
>
> > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich prop
> > From: chuckde@roadrunner.com
> > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:29:25 -0700
> > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> >
<chuckde@roadrunner.com>
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with the Sensenich ground adjustable
carbon prop on the 3300A engine? It looks like a beauty and I need to
dial up the rpm's a bit to get within the Jab specs. I posted a while
ago about static rpm's being 2500 at most. I have to push it to see 3000
in flight. I've been cruising the neighborhood at 4gpm at 2400 rpm. This
is with the sensenich 64X47.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400025#400025
> >
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