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1. 07:15 AM - Re: Crankcase vent (Gary Aman)
2. 02:10 PM - 3300 carb heat (Tim Yoder)
3. 04:54 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (Gary Aman)
4. 05:16 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (James Crowder)
5. 05:16 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (Tim Yoder)
6. 05:32 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (Marvin)
7. 06:03 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (Todd Bristol)
8. 06:12 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (JohnDRead@aol.com)
9. 06:14 PM - Carb temp sensor (JohnDRead@aol.com)
10. 10:54 PM - Re: 3300 carb heat (Rob Turk)
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| Subject: | Re: Crankcase vent |
Bob,
Now I see what you have there.The line in your post that said (piped back u
p to the filler pipe) gave me the wrong impression.Your under the cowl inst
allation is much neater.Mine requires no plumbing and is just as effective
but it is not handsome hanging out in the breeze with the rest of the engin
e.
Thanks,G.Aman
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From: Bob Haas <checkpoint2@centurylink.net>
Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
I believe so I fly a 3300 and a 2200. There is no oil film on the
belly on either aircraft. I have the separator can plumed in to the oil dr
ain
fitting on the sump. The crank case vent is in the normal filler tube o
n the top of the motor.
From: Gary Aman
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
Bob,
Are you familiar with the Jabiru vent setup?It's a little different from mo
st.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Haas <checkpoint2@centurylink.net>
Sent: Sat, May 11, 2013 11:48 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
k.net>
The answer is a air-oil separator, with the vent piped back up to
the filler pipe. Spruce has small units for sale. "Old technology."
Bob Haas N330BH Lightning, N380BH, Alpi Pioneer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Ladd
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Crankcase vent
>
Sure get tired of cleaning oil off the tail feathers each time I fly
Hi,
I ran mine into a cut off plastic bottle mounted just behind the cabin
enclosure..
Pat
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I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont. &
Lyc. carburetor engines.
Thanks, Tim
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 carb heat |
Tim,
My 2200 is on a Kolb MK3 above the wing pusher.Because it is un-cowled, it
ices readily in humid cool conditions and is now equipped with an electric
conductive heat element mounted on the carb body at the throttle shaft cast
ing nord.If your installation allows warmed air from under the cowl to ente
r the intake it may be all you need,but the Bing ices.
G.Aman
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From: Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 5:10 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont.
& Lyc. carburetor engines.
Thanks, Tim
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Tim,
What is "nord" ? I am looking for a place to attach a temperature sensor.
This would seem to be the place.
Jim Crowder
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
Tim,
My 2200 is on a Kolb MK3 above the wing pusher.Because it is un-cowled, it
ices readily in humid cool conditions and is now equipped with an electric
conductive heat element mounted on the carb body at the throttle shaft
casting nord.If your installation allows warmed air from under the cowl to
enter the intake it may be all you need,but the Bing ices.
G.Aman
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From: Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 5:10 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont. &
Lyc. carburetor engines.
Thanks, Tim
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Thanks for the information Gary, Is the heat element available from Jabiru,
do you turn it on or is it on all the time?
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
Tim,
My 2200 is on a Kolb MK3 above the wing pusher.Because it is un-cowled, it
ices readily in humid cool conditions and is now equipped with an electric
conductive heat element mounted on the carb body at the throttle shaft
casting nord.If your installation allows warmed air from under the cowl to
enter the intake it may be all you need,but the Bing ices.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 5:10 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont. &
Lyc. carburetor engines.
Thanks, Tim
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 carb heat |
Marvin
Sent from my "Geeky" iPhone
On May 12, 2013, at 5:15 PM, "Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the information Gary, Is the heat element available from Jabiru
, do you turn it on or is it on all the time?
>
> From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabirueng
ine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Aman
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:53 PM
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
>
> Tim,
> My 2200 is on a Kolb MK3 above the wing pusher.Because it is un-cowled, it
ices readily in humid cool conditions and is now equipped with an electric c
onductive heat element mounted on the carb body at the throttle shaft castin
g nord.If your installation allows warmed air from under the cowl to enter t
he intake it may be all you need,but the Bing ices.
> G.Aman
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
> To: jabiruengine-list <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 5:10 pm
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
>
> I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont. &
Lyc. carburetor engines.
>
> Thanks, Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 carb heat |
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 carb heat |
The carb heat from Jabiru has two levels controlled by switches. Can recall
the cost as it was part of the FWF package with the engine.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 5/12/2013 7:04:13 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
djtoddb@yahoo.com writes:
Here's where to get the Carb heater
http://motionaero.com/Products-DualHeat.html
Todd Bristol
Great Entertainment isn't expensive... It's Priceless!
Interactive Entertainment Events, DJs and Game Shows
Mesa, Arizona
480-755-4200
_www.djs4u.com_ (http://www.djs4u.com/)
www.gameshowsamerica.com
www.condopenasco.com
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From: James Crowder <jlcrowder@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
Tim,
What is =9Cnord=9D ? I am looking for a place to attach a tem
perature
sensor. This would seem to be the place.
Jim Crowder
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Am
an
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
Tim,
My 2200 is on a Kolb MK3 above the wing pusher.Because it is un-cowled, it
ices readily in humid cool conditions and is now equipped with an electric
conductive heat element mounted on the carb body at the throttle shaft
casting nord.If your installation allows warmed air from under the cowl to
enter the intake it may be all you need,but the Bing ices.
G.Aman
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From: Tim Yoder <_ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com_ (mailto:ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com) >
(mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com) >
Sent: Sun, May 12, 2013 5:10 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 carb heat
I recently purchased an ELSA and it was never fitted with carburetor heat.
Is this not necessary on Jabiru engines? It seems they are always on Cont.
& Lyc. carburetor engines.
Thanks, Tim
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| Subject: | Carb temp sensor |
Any one fitted a temp sensor to the Bing. Where was it installed?
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
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| Subject: | Re: 3300 carb heat |
Just to be pedantic, there is no electric carb heat *from* Jabiru. There
are several 3rd party sources for electric carb heat *for* Jabiru, or
even more accurate, for Bing carburettors. MotionAero being one of them.
They all work on the same principle, a module with one or two heater
elements (big resistors) that gets attached to the opposite side of the
throttle lever. They usually generate between 30W and 70W of heat and
seem to work well to keep ice from forming in the venturi.
Jabiru recommends an air filter box that can accept hot air as carb
heat, see their installation manual.
Rob
On 5/13/2013 3:12 AM, JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> The carb heat from Jabiru has two levels controlled by switches. Can
> recall the cost as it was part of the FWF package with the engine.
> Regards, John
>
> CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
>
> Cell: 719-494-4567
> Home: 303-648-3261
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