JabiruEngine-List Digest Tue 05/27/14

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Tue 05/27/14

Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:45 AM - fuel pump push rod dimensions? (j. davis)
     2. 06:06 AM - Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (Clive James)
     3. 06:30 AM - Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (Rob Turk)
     4. 06:32 AM - Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (j. davis)
     5. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (j. davis)
     6. 08:09 AM - Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (Clive James)
     7. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (Clive James)
     8. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (Rob Turk)
     9. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions? (j. davis)
 
 
 

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Time: 05:45:05 AM PST US
Subject: fuel pump push rod dimensions?
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca@gmail.com>      
      Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod
      for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be
      72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for
      me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O'
      drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for.
      Thanks!
      
      -- 
      Regards,  J.
      
      -----------------------------
      J. Davis,
      email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      
      - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      - see all at http://cleco.ca
      

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Time: 06:06:19 AM PST US
From: Clive James <zcrj90@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?      
      72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314) 
      Regards, Clive
      
      
      On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push 
      rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 
      72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it 
      for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on 
      an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is 
      called for. Thanks!
      > 
      > -- 
      > Regards,  J.
      > 
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,   
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      > 
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 06:30:02 AM PST US
From: Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl>
Subject: Re:  fuel pump push rod dimensions?      
      According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two 
      different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. 
      Check carefully.
      
      On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:
      > 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
      > Regards, Clive
      >
      >
      > On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com 
      > <mailto:jwd3ca@gmail.com>> wrote:
      >
      >> Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push 
      >> rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should 
      >> be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic 
      >> it for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, 
      >> based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much 
      >> clearance is called for. Thanks!
      >>
      >> -- 
      >> Regards,  J.
      >>
      >> -----------------------------
      >> J. Davis,
      >> email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      >> *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >>
      >> - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      >> - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      >> - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      >> - see all at http://cleco.ca <http://cleco.ca/>
      >> *
      >>
      >>
      >> *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      

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Time: 06:32:43 AM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca@gmail.com>      
      Thanks, Clive! 8mm O-1 drill rod is easily available, do you think this
      temper would be correct for this application? BTW, 8mm is actually 0.315
      (0.314961 to be exact). Would you have any reservations about fabricating
      versus purchasing the Jabiru part?
      
      
      On 27 May 2014 09:05, Clive James <zcrj90@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
      
      > 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
      > Regards, Clive
      >
      >
      > On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod
      > for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be
      > 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for
      > me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O'
      > drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for.
      > Thanks!
      >
      > --
      > Regards,  J.
      >
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Regards,  J.
      
      -----------------------------
      J. Davis,
      email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      
      - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      - see all at http://cleco.ca
      

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Time: 06:59:57 AM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca@gmail.com>      
      Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the cast
      emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this rod (versus
      purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?
      
      
      On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl> wrote:
      
      >  According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two
      > different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length.
      > Check carefully.
      >
      > On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:
      >
      > 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
      > Regards, Clive
      >
      >
      >  On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >  Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push rod
      > for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be
      > 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it for
      > me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O'
      > drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is called for.
      > Thanks!
      >
      > --
      > Regards,  J.
      >
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Regards,  J.
      
      -----------------------------
      J. Davis,
      email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      
      - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      - see all at http://cleco.ca
      

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Time: 08:09:55 AM PST US
From: Clive James <zcrj90@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?      
      Was just reading off the mic=85..
      
      Afraid I don=92t know, I=92m sure there=92s someone on here that would 
      know. It=92s not actually working very hard=85..
      
      Regards, Clive
      
      On 27 May 2014, at 14:32, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Thanks, Clive! 8mm O-1 drill rod is easily available, do you think 
      this temper would be correct for this application? BTW, 8mm is actually 
      0.315 (0.314961 to be exact). Would you have any reservations about 
      fabricating versus purchasing the Jabiru part? 
      > 
      > 
      > On 27 May 2014 09:05, Clive James <zcrj90@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
      > 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314) 
      > Regards, Clive
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      >> Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push 
      rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 
      72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it 
      for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on 
      an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is 
      called for. Thanks!
      >> 
      >> -- 
      >> Regards,  J.
      >> 
      >> -----------------------------
      >> J. Davis,   
      >> email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      >> *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >> 
      >> - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      >> - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      >> - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      >> - see all at http://cleco.ca
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > -- 
      > Regards,  J.
      > 
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,   
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      > 
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 08:11:41 AM PST US
From: Clive James <zcrj90@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?      
      The pump I measured was from 3300 ser no 1460, the later type as far as 
      I can see as the gaskets on my old 2200 are different. 
      
      Regards, Clive
      
      On 27 May 2014, at 14:59, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the 
      cast emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this rod 
      (versus purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?
      > 
      > 
      > On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl> wrote:
      > According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are two 
      different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different pushrod length. 
      Check carefully.
      > 
      > On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:
      >> 72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314) 
      >> Regards, Clive
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com> wrote:
      >> 
      >>> Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump push 
      rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's length should be 
      72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one handy, could you mic it 
      for me and tell me the diameter? My best guess so far is 0.316, based on 
      an 'O' drill bit shank, but I don't know exactly how much clearance is 
      called for. Thanks!
      >>> 
      >>> -- 
      >>> Regards,  J.
      >>> 
      >>> -----------------------------
      >>> J. Davis,   
      >>> email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      >>> *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >>> 
      >>> - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      >>> - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      >>> - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      >>> - see all at http://cleco.ca
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >>> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > ist" 
      target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List
      > tp://forums.matronics.com
      > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -- 
      > Regards,  J.
      > 
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,   
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      > 
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      

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Time: 09:10:32 AM PST US
From: Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl>
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?      
      Frankly I wouldn't do it. I do not know what material is being used in 
      the factory push rod. I wouldn't take chances, as you simply do not know 
      what long term effect using any arbitrary material can have on the cam 
      lobe. Also, the pushrod is a fairly tight fit through the crankcase. 
      Using the wrong material with different heat expansion and/or different 
      surface roughness might cause it to seize.
      
      Play it safe, get the part from Jabiru.
      
      On 5/27/2014 3:59 PM, j. davis wrote:
      > Noted, thanks. The length I gave pertains to my type 1 pump (with the 
      > cast emblems. Rob, would you have any reservations fabricating this 
      > rod (versus purchasing fom Jabiru) ? Using O-1 temper 8mm drill rod?
      >
      >
      > On 27 May 2014 09:29, Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl 
      > <mailto:matronics@rtist.nl>> wrote:
      >
      >     According to the overhaul manual (JEM0001-4, page 96) there are
      >     two different types of fuel pump, each requiring a different
      >     pushrod length. Check carefully.
      >
      >     On 5/27/2014 3:05 PM, Clive James wrote:
      >>     72.79 mm x 8 mm (0.314)
      >>     Regards, Clive
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>     On 27 May 2014, at 13:44, j. davis <jwd3ca@gmail.com
      >>     <mailto:jwd3ca@gmail.com>> wrote:
      >>
      >>>     Greetings... I need to either fabricate or purchase a fuel pump
      >>>     push rod for a 3300a s.n. 1054 I see in the manual that it's
      >>>     length should be 72.3-72.8 mm. If someone reading this has one
      >>>     handy, could you mic it for me and tell me the diameter? My best
      >>>     guess so far is 0.316, based on an 'O' drill bit shank, but I
      >>>     don't know exactly how much clearance is called for. Thanks!
      >>>
      >>>     -- 
      >>>     Regards,  J.
      >>>
      >>>     -----------------------------
      >>>     J. Davis,
      >>>     email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      >>>     *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >>>
      >>>     - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop
      >>>     - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      >>>     - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      >>>     - see all at http://cleco.ca <http://cleco.ca/>
      >>>     *
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>     *
      >>
      >>     *
      >>
      >>
      >>     *
      >
      >     *
      >
      >     ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List
      >     tp://forums.matronics.com
      >     _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      >
      >     *
      >
      >
      > -- 
      > Regards,  J.
      >
      > -----------------------------
      > J. Davis,
      > email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      > *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      >
      > - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      > - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      > - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      > - see all at http://cleco.ca
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      

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Time: 10:40:11 AM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel pump push rod dimensions?
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca@gmail.com>      
      On 27 May 2014 12:09, Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl> wrote:
      
      >  Frankly I wouldn't do it. I do not know what material is being used in
      > the factory push rod. I wouldn't take chances, as you simply do not know
      > what long term effect using any arbitrary material can have on the cam
      > lobe. Also, the pushrod is a fairly tight fit through the crankcase. Usin
      g
      > the wrong material with different heat expansion and/or different surface
      > roughness might cause it to seize.
      >
      > Play it safe, get the part from Jabiru.
      >
      
      
      I think that's probably good advice, Rob. And I think I'll take it. ;')
      Patience is a virtue I don=99t always necessarily possess... ;')
      
      
      -- 
      Regards,  J.
      
      -----------------------------
      J. Davis,
      email: jwd3ca at gmail dot com
      *NIX consulting, Medical Imaging programmer
      
      - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, Aerocarb
      - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
      - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder
      - see all at http://cleco.ca
      








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