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Mon 04/27/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 02:43 AM - Re: alternator (GTH)
     2. 01:40 PM - Alternator (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
     3. 03:23 PM - Re: Alternator (Robert L Nuckolls III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:43:02 AM PST US
    From: GTH <gilles.thesee@free.fr>
    Subject: Re: alternator
    Le 27/04/2015 02:19, Lance Sandford a crit : > <lsandford@westnet.com.au> > > Gilles > > Try this link: > http://jabiru.net.au/images/AVDALSR087-2_12_Pole_Alternator_Mod.pdf > Lance and all, Thank you for the link, and thank you for those who reponded privately. It's great to get help so quickly. Ironically, now Google works as expected and yields lots of responses^^! Thanks again, Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr


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    Time: 01:40:17 PM PST US
    From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
    Subject: Alternator
    List I was getting 14.6 volts steady at 1200 and 1400 rpm while taxiing out. My amp meter hunts so I do not know what it was putting out ( Zero to 4 indicated ). After the first flight that had Icom radio, Dynon Efis, and the Ro-tec E mag I figured about five to seven amps with the radio not transmitting. The volt meter was still steady at 14.6. One thing I did observe was when I put the battery tender on it it only took about 10 minutes or less for the green light to come on. It usually takes 25 to 30 minutes. I believe the coils shorted out when I added load by turning on the strobes. After I removed the coils it looks like the varnish could have been rubbed off at the corner of the turn where the wires exit to the backside of the coils. I could not really tell since the wire was blackened and had no varnish left. One circuit was burned black ( all 6 coils ) while the other circuit was in tact. I knew it was a trade off by going to one series circuit in lieu of the 2 parallel but I was used to turning off the transponder on short final and the strobes after exiting the runway ( unless there was ground traffic). Anyway I am afixin to order the CAMit 40 ~ 45 amp alternator and adapter kit. That ought to fix the problem unless I have another self induced uh-oh! Thanks to all that responded ( no flames : ) bobby


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    Time: 03:23:22 PM PST US
    From: Robert L Nuckolls III <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternator
    At 15:39 2015-04-27, you wrote: >List >I was getting 14.6 volts steady at 1200 and 1400 rpm while taxiing >out. My amp meter hunts so I do not know what it was putting out ( >Zero to 4 indicated ). After the first flight that had Icom radio, >Dynon Efis, and the Ro-tec E mag I figured about five to seven amps >with the radio not transmitting. The volt meter was still steady at 14.6. >One thing I did observe was when I put the battery tender on it it >only took about 10 minutes or less for the green light to come on. >It usually takes 25 to 30 minutes. >I believe the coils shorted out when I added load by turning on the >strobes. After I removed the coils it looks like the varnish could >have been rubbed off at the corner of the turn where the wires exit >to the backside of the coils. I could not really tell since the wire >was blackened and had no varnish left. >One circuit was burned black ( all 6 coils ) while the other circuit >was in tact. >I knew it was a trade off by going to one series circuit in lieu of >the 2 parallel but I was used to turning off the transponder on >short final and the strobes after exiting the runway ( unless there >was ground traffic). >Anyway I am afixin to order the CAMit 40 ~ 45 amp alternator and >adapter kit. That ought to fix the problem unless I have another >self induced uh-oh! > >Thanks to all that responded ( no flames : ) > >bobby Sadly, your observations on the series-connected alternator 'experiment' were somewhat predictable. Sorry you've had to suffer the indignities imposed by the laws of physics. The PM alternator has been poorly exploited for the best it has to offer. PM alternators are simple, long lived, robust and not terribly inefficient. Unfortunately, the rectifier/regulator combinations have NOT evolved with the best that power electronics has to offer. We're doing the rudimentary proof of concept studies for a PM alternator R/R that will offer greater maximum output commensurate with the alternator's real ability to convert mechanical motion into electrical energy. The belt driven alternator is a low-risk albeit heavier and more expensive alternative. It may indeed be the most practical solution depending on you use your airplane. But it's possible that a modern R/R configuration will breath new life into the PM alternator concept with increased performance and system reliability. We shall see .. . Bob . . . ----------------------------- Bob Nuckolls AeroElectric Connection P.O. Box 130 Medicine Lodge, KS 67104-0130 Mobile: 316-209-7528 Web: http://aeroelectric.com ------------------------------




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