---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/03/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Tires (Mark Kettering) 2. 03:58 AM - Re: Tires (Alfred Rosa) 3. 04:21 AM - Re: Tires () 4. 06:46 AM - Re: Tires (Richard Trickel) 5. 06:49 AM - Re: Tires (John Forster) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:49 AM PST US From: Mark Kettering Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires I agree that if one tire is more reliable then it could be the better choice even if it is more expensive. But why is one a "low quality" and the other a "high quality" tire? Are you basing this statement on price or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is high quality? Or is there any difference in reliability or life? In my world a low price Toyota has higher reliability and longer life than a high price Jaguar or Maserati. Another school of thought is to just replace the tire more often and for the same total cost the less expensive tire will allow more frequent replacements and maybe this will give more safety. Mark -----Original Message----- >From: bakerocb@cox.net >Sent: Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM >To: kis-list@matronics.com, galinhdz@gmail.com >Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires > > >11/2/2009 > >Hello Galin, Some perspective: > >If you have a nose tire failure and the resulting loss of directional contro >puts you off the side of the runway with a broken prop and a sudden engine >stoppage the difference in price between a low quality tire and a high >quality tire will seem a trivial amount. > >If you take the difference in price between a low quality tire and a high >quality tire and divide that amount by the number of landings and takeoffs >that you will make during the life of the high quality tire the difference >in cost per landing and takeoff will seem a trivial amount. > >If you take the difference in price between a low quality tire and a high >quality tire and divide that amount by the number of days of use you will >have during the life of the high quality tire the difference in cost per day >will seem a trivial amount. > >'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and >understand knowledge." > >========================================== >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Galin Hernandez" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:31 PM >Subject: KIS-List: Tires > > >> All; >> >> I am going to need a new nosewheel soon and was wondering which tire is >> recommended. I currently have a MCREARY AIRTRAC 5.00-5 4ply tire and will >> be >> going to a 6ply tire. I have been looking at the Michelin and the >> Goodyears >> but am not sure they are worth the extra cost over the MCREARY. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Galin >> N819PR >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:34 AM PST US From: Alfred Rosa <76papa@dishmail.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Galin Hernandez wrote: > All; > > I am going to need a new nosewheel soon and was wondering which > tire is recommended. I currently have a MCREARY AIRTRAC 5.00-5 4ply > tire and will be going to a 6ply tire. I have been looking at the > Michelin and the Goodyears but am not sure they are worth the extra > cost over the MCREARY. > > What do you think? > > Galin > N819PR > > I bought Goodyear (next to top of line) for the mains, and Goodyear (top of the line) for the nose wheel, thinking that the nose wheel would be the most catastrophic failure if you factor in a possible prop strike requiring an engine teardown. Not to mention loss of steering. If you want to cheap it out go with McRearys for the mains and the best tire you can buy for the nose wheel. Al ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:57 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires 11/3/2009 Hello Mark, You wrote: "Are you basing this statement on price or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is high quality?" I base my comments on the use of Goodyear tires and Airtracs on my airplane. Besides, Goodyear let me fly their blimp. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kettering" Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:33 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires > > I agree that if one tire is more reliable then it could be the better > choice even if it is more expensive. But why is one a "low quality" and > the other a "high quality" tire? Are you basing this statement on price > or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is > high quality? Or is there any difference in reliability or life? > > In my world a low price Toyota has higher reliability and longer life than > a high price Jaguar or Maserati. > > Another school of thought is to just replace the tire more often and for > the same total cost the less expensive tire will allow more frequent > replacements and maybe this will give more safety. > > Mark ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:40 AM PST US From: Richard Trickel Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires O.C. Your not BIASed are you? Rich --- On Tue, 11/3/09, bakerocb@cox.net wrote: From: bakerocb@cox.net Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires 11/3/2009 Hello Mark, You wrote: "Are you basing this statement on price or do you ha ve actual information that one is low quality and the other is high quality ?" I base my comments on the use of Goodyear tires and Airtracs on my airplane . Besides, Goodyear let me fly their blimp. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and und erstand knowledge." ===================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kettering" Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:33 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires > > I agree that if one tire is more reliable then it could be the better cho ice even if it is more expensive. But why is one a "low quality" and the ot her a "high quality" tire?- Are you basing this statement on price or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is high q uality?- Or is there any difference in reliability or life? > > In my world a low price Toyota has higher reliability and longer life tha n a high price Jaguar or Maserati. > > Another school of thought is to just replace the tire more often and for the same total cost the less expensive tire will allow more frequent replac ements and maybe this will give more safety. > > Mark le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:15 AM PST US Subject: RE: KIS-List: Tires From: "John Forster" Boooo! I'm TIREd of bad puns. John ________________________________ From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Trickel Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires O.C. Your not BIASed are you? Rich --- On Tue, 11/3/09, bakerocb@cox.net wrote: From: bakerocb@cox.net Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires To: kis-list@matronics.com, "Kettering, Mark" Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 4:18 AM > 11/3/2009 Hello Mark, You wrote: "Are you basing this statement on price or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is high quality?" I base my comments on the use of Goodyear tires and Airtracs on my airplane. Besides, Goodyear let me fly their blimp. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ===================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kettering" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:33 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Tires > > > I agree that if one tire is more reliable then it could be the better choice even if it is more expensive. But why is one a "low quality" and the other a "high quality" tire? Are you basing this statement on price or do you have actual information that one is low quality and the other is high quality? Or is there any difference in reliability or life? > > In my world a low price Toyota has higher reliability and longer life than a high price Jaguar or Maserati. > > Another school of thought is to just replace the tire more often and for the same total cost the less expensive tire will allow more frequent replacements and maybe this will give more safety. > > Mark href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.bsp; ======================= on year's www.buildersbooks.com Contribution Web Thank to and http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List Web =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.