---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/07/09: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:14 AM - Re: Lycoming O-235 engines (Alfred Rosa) 2. 04:28 AM - Re: Wing root fairing (Bill Schertz) 3. 11:42 AM - Re: Wing root fairing (Mike Pienaar) 4. 12:14 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (Bill Schertz) 5. 12:35 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (Alfred Rosa) 6. 01:17 PM - Re: Wing root fairing (Mike Pienaar) 7. 02:36 PM - Leaky Airplane (Galin Hernandez) 8. 03:01 PM - Leaky Airplane (Galin Hernandez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:47 AM PST US From: Alfred Rosa <76papa@dishmail.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Lycoming O-235 engines On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Mark Kettering wrote: > > Hi Al, > > For my all carbon TR-4 I just bought a 350 HP TIO-540 from a Mirage. Are you modifying the wings? I don't think the original airfoil design is ideal for utilizing the speed from such a powerplant. Al ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:24 AM PST US From: "Bill Schertz" Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Okay, that is a different story. First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using MICRO. The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots on the fuselage. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: KISBUILDERS Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Hi Bill, I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the fairing onto the wing? 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Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Okay, that is a different story. First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using MICRO. The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots on the fuselage. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: KISBUILDERS Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Hi Bill, I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the fairing onto the wing? 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Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I really like your solution and if you don't mind I'm going to copy it. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Okay, that is a different story. First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using MICRO. The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots on the fuselage. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: KISBUILDERS Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Hi Bill, I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the fairing onto the wing? 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I'd like to see it. Al On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Bill Schertz wrote: > Actually we should give credit to Bob Anderson, he did it first and > I copied HIM!! > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > Phase I testing > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Pienaar > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:40 PM > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing > > Thanks Bill, > > I really like your solution and if you don't mind I'm going to copy > it. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Schertz > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing > > Okay, that is a different story. > > First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' > aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of > poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 > ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. > I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it > conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and > then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and > clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to > smooth the transition using MICRO. > > The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, > overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the > fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At > the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. > > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > Phase I testing > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Pienaar > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing > > Thanks Bill, > > I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the > bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up > under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing > and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside > of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you > constructed the slots on the fuselage. > > Thanks > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Schertz > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing > > The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has > to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. > Bill Schertz > KIS Cruiser #4045 > N343BS > Phase I testing > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Pienaar > To: KISBUILDERS > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM > Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing > > Hi Bill, > > I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can > figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the > fairing onto the wing? > > Cheers > > Mike > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > > - Release Date: 11/07/09 07:38:00 > > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS- > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:28 PM PST US From: "Mike Pienaar" Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing It is on Bob's site, look under: Builders Construction Bill Schertz Fuselage Construction It is the second last item on the list under Fuselage Construction Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Alfred Rosa To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:30 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Is this on Bob's web site. I'd like to see it. Al On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Bill Schertz wrote: Actually we should give credit to Bob Anderson, he did it first and I copied HIM!! Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I really like your solution and if you don't mind I'm going to copy it. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Okay, that is a different story. First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using MICRO. The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots on the fuselage. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: KISBUILDERS Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Hi Bill, I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the fairing onto the wing? 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I tired every thing I could think of to stop the leak with no luck. I even went as far as trying a "special" foam rubber door gasket but it kept leaking. Yesterday while looking a the problem I realized the water had not been getting between or around the gasket, but between the hinge and the door skin. The water had been getting between the hinge and the door skin on the outside of the gasket, running between the two to the other side of the gasket inside the cockpit. I put some clear silicone sealant where the hinge meets the door skins. I closed the door so the silicone sealant would work its way anywhere water could go and let it set a few minutes. I then opened the door to make sure I hadn't sealed the door shut. After I let it dry I closed the door, poured water directly onto the hinge and all around the door with no leaking into the cockpit at all. If your door has a water leak and you can't seem to stop it, check where the hinge meets the door. Seal around it and see if it works. It worked for me. Now to figure out how to open the door during a rainstorm without getting wet. :o) Galin N819PR ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:36 PM PST US From: Galin Hernandez Subject: KIS-List: Leaky Airplane All; I have had a water leak into the cockpit of my airplane since I first got it. I tired every thing I could think of to stop the leak with no luck. I even went as far as trying a "special" foam rubber door gasket but it kept leaking. Yesterday while looking a the problem I realized the water had not been getting between or around the gasket, but between the hinge and the door skin. The water had been getting between the hinge and the door skin on the outside of the gasket, running between the two to the other side of the gasket inside the cockpit. I put some clear silicone sealant where the hinge meets the door skins. I closed the door so the silicone sealant would work its way anywhere water could go and let it set a few minutes. I then opened the door to make sure I hadn't sealed the door shut. After I let it dry I closed the door, poured water directly onto the hinge and all around the door with no leaking into the cockpit at all. If your door has a water leak and you can't seem to stop it, check where the hinge meets the door. Seal around it and see if it works. It worked for me. Now to figure out how to open the door during a rainstorm without getting wet. :o) Galin N819PR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.