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Wed 11/11/09


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 10:18 PM - Wing root fairing (Mike Pienaar)
     2. 10:51 PM - Drill Sizes (Mike Pienaar)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:18:00 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Wing root fairing
    Hi Bill I presume you did a layup and used the bottom of your wing as a mold to make the panels for the bottom wing root fairing. What did you use as a release material and how thick did you make this layup. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Okay, that is a different story. First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4' aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using MICRO. The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates, overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage, that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Thanks Bill, I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing? If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots on the fuselage. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Schertz To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS Phase I testing ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: KISBUILDERS Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing Hi Bill, I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the fairing onto the wing? Cheers Mike href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Release Date: 11/06/09 07:38:00 href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 11/07/09 07:38:00


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    Time: 10:51:24 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Drill Sizes
    Found this chart on what drill to use for bolts and rivets, I think it was from the RV community Drill Size Decimal (inch) Common Use 1/16 0.0625 Holes for safety wire 3/32 0.0938 Pilot holes before final drilling to #40 40 0.0980 Holes for 3/32" rivets 1/8 0.1250 Pilot holes before final drilling to #30 30 0.1285 Holes for 1/8" rivets 27 0.1440 Holes for #6 screws 5/32 0.1562 Pilot holes before final drilling to #21 21 0.1590 Holes for 5/32" rivets 19 0.1660 Holes for #8 screws 3/16 0.1875 Pilot holes before final drilling to #12, #11, or #10 12 0.1890 Holes for 3/16" rivets 11 0.1910 Holes for 3/16" bolts 10 0.1935 Holes for 3/16" bolts in UHMW plastic 1/4 0.2500 Holes for 1/4" bolts Hope you find it helpful Regards Mike




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