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1. 04:17 AM - Hardware Sizes ()
2. 04:21 AM - Fittings Sizes ()
3. 04:42 AM - Re: Fittings Sizes (haines george)
4. 05:43 AM - Selling B-BVZD ()
5. 06:17 AM - Re: Wing root fairing (Bill Schertz)
6. 07:07 AM - Re: Wing root fairing ()
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11/12/2009
Hello Fellow Builders, A copy of the attached is pretty useful in the shop.
OC
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11/12/2009
Hello Fellow Builders, This chart also comes in handy in the shop.
OC
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| Subject: | Re: Fittings Sizes |
Selling B-BVZD Based in Carlisle UK=0A=0A George Haines=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____
___________________________=0AFrom: "bakerocb@cox.net" <bakerocb@cox.net>
=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 12:20:55=0ASub
ject: KIS-List: Fittings Sizes=0A=0A11/12/2009=0A=0AHello Fellow Builders,
This chart also comes in handy in the shop.=0A=0AOC=0A=0A=0A
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11/12/2009
Hello George, It would be helpful to change the subject line on e mails if
appropriate.
Please tell us a bit about the airplane that you are selling.
What nation uses B as the first letter in the tail number?
Thanks,
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "haines george" <kilcoran_uk@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Fittings Sizes
Selling B-BVZD Based in Carlisle UK
George Haines
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From: "bakerocb@cox.net" <bakerocb@cox.net>
Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 12:20:55
Subject: KIS-List: Fittings Sizes
11/12/2009
Hello Fellow Builders, This chart also comes in handy in the shop.
OC
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| Subject: | Re: Wing root fairing |
Actually, the close out panel was supplied by KIS as a molded part (flat
with curve for wing leading edge) as a single sheet. I had to cut it
down the center and then make the curved cut to handle the transition at
the front.
If this was not supplied, you will have to make your own by covering the
wing with 2 mil poly, then making the layup over the poly, using peel
ply. The factory piece looked to be more than 2-ply, I would go with 3-4
ply for that part.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:17 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Hi Bill
I presume you did a layup and used the bottom of your wing as a mold
to make the panels for the bottom wing root fairing. What did you use as
a release material and how thick did you make this layup.
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Schertz
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Okay, that is a different story.
First, to make the 'slots': I laid a long straight edge (4'
aluminum ruler if I recall) down on a flat table, laid a piece of poly
over that so nothing would stick, and then laid a strip of 2 ply bid
that went from the table up over the ruler to make a step. I put peel
ply over the BID, and then brushed it down to make it conform over the
step. After cure, it was trimmed to size, and then bonded to the bottom
of the fuselage using Aeropoxy 6228 and clecoes. I then filled the
bottom of the fuselage at the 'step' to smooth the transition using
MICRO.
The fairing is attached to the wing with screws and nutplates,
overlapping the 'joggle' and it 'floats' in the slot on the fuselage,
that way there are no stresses when the wing flexes. At the front of
the wing, the fairing tucks under the top fairing.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Thanks Bill,
I should have been a bit more specific, I was refering to the
bottom wing root fairing that you slide into the slot you built up under
the fuselage. Does this also "float" where it covers the wing and does
it fit into the joggle at the inner edge of the underside of the wing?
If you don't mind could you also explain how you constructed the slots
on the fuselage.
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Schertz
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
The fairing is NOT attached to the wing. The wing will flex and
has to be removed/installed. It just sits on the wing surface.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: KISBUILDERS
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Hi Bill,
I was lokking at how you attached the wing root fairings and
can figure out what you did on the fuselage but how did you attach the
fairing onto the wing?
Cheers
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Wing root fairing |
11/12/2009
Hello Mike, When I made these fairings for my KIS TR-1 I set the fuselage
upside down, installed the wing (one piece wing for this plane), and molded
the fairings to fit exactly. I used primarily package sealing tape for
release material and to bridge the gap between fuselage and wing.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Schertz" <wschertz@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Actually, the close out panel was supplied by KIS as a molded part (flat
with curve for wing leading edge) as a single sheet. I had to cut it down
the center and then make the curved cut to handle the transition at the
front.
If this was not supplied, you will have to make your own by covering the
wing with 2 mil poly, then making the layup over the poly, using peel ply.
The factory piece looked to be more than 2-ply, I would go with 3-4 ply for
that part.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase I testing
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:17 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Wing root fairing
Hi Bill
I presume you did a layup and used the bottom of your wing as a mold to
make the panels for the bottom wing root fairing. What did you use as a
release material and how thick did you make this layup.
Thanks
Mike
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