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    Time: 05:11:45 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Who Has Got The Time?
    12/6/2009 (and again on 12/8/2009) Hello Fellow Pilots and Builders, The aeroelectric list has been filled lately with discussions of hardware (meters) that keep track of time. Just exactly what time is being kept, and for what purpose, is unclear. To shed some light on the subject let's start by taking a look at what 14 CFR (FAR's) say about time. We'll take flight time first, then TIS (Time In Service): 1) Here is how pilot flight time is defined in section 1.1 of the FAR's : "Flight time means: Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing;" I am not aware of any meter that could keep accurate track of such time. You'll find many pilots, and airlines, that do not keep track of flight / pilot time in conformance with this definition. Standard compliance by all pilots with this definition is unlikely because there is room for interpretation. Does "moves under its own power for the purpose of flight" mean the instant the wheels start to roll as you leave the parking space in order to go flying? Then that XXX minutes plus that you spend taxiing, doing engine run up, and waiting for takeoff clearance at the end of the runway, would all be flight time. Considering the delays involved in operating at some airports one could become a multi thousand hour flight time pilot very quickly using that interpretation. On the other hand one is certainly exercising some very important PIC duties from the time he leaves the parking space until starting takeoff roll. Should all of that time be ignored and not recognized in some fashion? 2) Here is how section 1.1 of FAR's defines TIS (Time In Service): "Time in service, with respect to maintenance time records, means the time from the moment an aircraft leaves the surface of the earth until it touches it at the next point of landing." I suppose that there is hardware that could record this exact time, but it certainly is not in common use in our category of airplanes. So let's take a look at three common timing devices: the Hobbs meter, the mechanical engine RPM based tachometer, and the software associated with electronic flight instrumentation or engine instrumentation: A) The Hobbs meter (you can look here for a quick review): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbs_meter It doesn't take very long to conclude that "Hobbs meter" has become a very generic term (like Kleenex or Scotch tape) and that Hobbs meters come in wide varieties and can be connected to record a wide variety of time. I guess it is possible for a Hobbs meter to be connected up so that it records one of the time definitions in the FAR's, but it doesn't seem easy. B) FAR 91.205 (a) and (b) require an engine tachometer to be installed in any powered standard category civil aircraft even for day VFR operations. By far the most common type of tachometer found is the mechanical RPM based tachometer. Presumably the purpose of the required tachometer is to inform the pilot of his engine's RPM at any given instant, but somewhere along the line these tachometers began including the total time of engine operation. This required someone to decide how to convert instantaneous RPM into total elapsed time of engine operation. If, say 2,000 RPM were chosen as the standard mechanical ratio to convert one minute at this RPM into one minute of elapsed engine operating time then any engine operation at less than 2,000 RPM generates less than one minute of elapsed engine operating time and any RPM greater than 2,000 generates more than one minute of elapsed engine operating time. See some of the tachometer conversion ratios between RPM and time available here: http://tghaviation.rtrk.com/?scid=387399&kw=3649251 In any case it does not appear that any mechanical engine tachometer can generate either of the elapsed times defined by the FAR's. C) There is such a huge variety of electronic flight and engine instrumentation systems and their associated software (and the ability of the operator to modify the software in some cases) that any accurate comparison of one airplane's / engine's / pilot's time to another airplane's / engine's / pilot's time would require some detailed examination of the processes used to generate that time. Again the probability that an electronic system would automatically generate elapsed time in exact compliance with either of the FAR time definitions is not likely. So what is the builder / pilot to do? My suggestions: a) Don't get all wrapped around the axle about generating time. Many people are not recording flight time or time in service the same way that you are. b) Pick some hardware and a system of documentation that seems to fit your needs and go with it. c) Be consistent in how you do things so that you can view and show the results with some confidence. d) Be wary of someone else's time claims, but don't make a big deal of time unless you are billing by the hour. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." PS: My choice for my airplane was just to record "Tach time" from my engine electronic data system for both flight time and TIS. My engine data system generates zero tach time anytime the engine RPM is less than 1,500 RPM and constant equal running time in hours and tenths any time the engine RPM is above 1,500 RPM. Recording this time for both flight time and TIS short changes me on pilot flight time since a fair amount of time while practicing landings in the landing pattern the engine is below 1,500 RPM. On the other hand it will take much longer elapsed time for my engine to reach its 2,000 hour TIS to be due for overhaul. This approach greatly simplifies my bookkeeping. Back when I was flying rental aircraft I just went with the flow and used the FBO's Hobbs meter time for flight time -- I paid for it, I should be able to log it.




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