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5. 09:57 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (Galin Hernandez)
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| Subject: | Vortex Generators |
All;
I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator. It made no
difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG difference on
approach and landing. I had a significant increase in elevator authority at
low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher attitude than before all
the way to touchdown. This was especially evident when I easily kept the
nose off the runway for a good 500ft after touchdown. The nose wheel finally
touched down at a significantly slower speed than I had been able to do
before. Before the VG installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the
nose wheel off the runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly
down.
I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft Spruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the provided 3M
dual side tape once I painted them. :o)
Galin
N819PR
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Where did you put them?- On the leading edge or back near the elevator?
-
Sounds like a good idea.
-
Scott
--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
Subject: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
All;
I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator. It made no
difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG difference on
approach and landing. I had a significant increase in elevator authority a
t low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher attitude than before all
the way to touchdown. This was especially evident when I easily kept the n
ose off the runway for a good 500ft after touchdown. The nose wheel finally
touched down at a significantly slower speed than I had been able to do be
fore. Before the VG installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the no
se wheel off the runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly
down.
I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft Spruce: http:/
/www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the provided 3M du
al side tape once I painted them. :o)
Galin
N819PR
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Scott;
They go on the rear of the tail with the VGs 4" in front of the gap between
the elevator and the stabilizer. Here is an image of where they go looking
up at the tail. I only had 4 VGs left over when the job was completed. I
will take a picture and post it on my web page. Remember, they go on the
BOTTOM of the tail.
Galin
N819PR
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where did you put them? On the leading edge or back near the elevator?
>
> Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> Subject: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 4:09 PM
>
> All;
>
> I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator. It made no
> difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG difference on
> approach and landing. I had a significant increase in elevator authority at
> low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher attitude than before all
> the way to touchdown. This was especially evident when I easily kept the
> nose off the runway for a good 500ft after touchdown. The nose wheel finally
> touched down at a significantly slower speed than I had been able to do
> before. Before the VG installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the
> nose wheel off the runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly
> down.
>
> I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft Spruce:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
>
> The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the provided 3M
> dual side tape once I painted them. :o)
>
> Galin
> N819PR
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
I made the elevator on my two place with an extra 2" of chord to get more p
itch control.- The VGs are a good idea too.- That seems to me to be the
perfect place for them.
-
Scott
--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
Scott;
They go on the rear of the tail with the VGs 4" in front of the gap between
the elevator and the stabilizer. Here is an image of where they go looking
up at the tail. I only had 4 VGs left over when the job was completed. I w
ill take a picture and post it on my web page. Remember, they go on the BOT
TOM of the tail.
Galin
N819PR
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On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where did you put them?- On the leading edge or back near the elevator?
-
Sounds like a good idea.
-
Scott
--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
Subject: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
All;
I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator. It made no
difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG difference on
approach and landing. I had a significant increase in elevator authority a
t low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher attitude than before all
the way to touchdown. This was especially evident when I easily kept the n
ose off the runway for a good 500ft after touchdown. The nose wheel finally
touched down at a significantly slower speed than I had been able to do be
fore. Before the VG installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the no
se wheel off the runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly
down.
I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft Spruce: http:/
/www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the provided 3M du
al side tape once I painted them. :o)
Galin
N819PR
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Mine was already built so I didn't have that option. :o)
Galin
N819PR
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made the elevator on my two place with an extra 2" of chord to get more
> pitch control. The VGs are a good idea too. That seems to me to be the
> perfect place for them.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
>
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
> Scott;
>
> They go on the rear of the tail with the VGs 4" in front of the gap between
> the elevator and the stabilizer. Here is an image of where they go looking
> up at the tail. I only had 4 VGs left over when the job was completed. I
> will take a picture and post it on my web page. Remember, they go on the
> BOTTOM of the tail.
>
> Galin
> N819PR
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com<http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sstearns2@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Where did you put them? On the leading edge or back near the elevator?
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 12/13/09, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com<http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=galinhdz@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com<http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=galinhdz@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
>> To: kis-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 4:09 PM
>>
>> All;
>>
>> I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator. It made
>> no difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG difference
>> on approach and landing. I had a significant increase in elevator authority
>> at low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher attitude than before all
>> the way to touchdown. This was especially evident when I easily kept the
>> nose off the runway for a good 500ft after touchdown. The nose wheel finally
>> touched down at a significantly slower speed than I had been able to do
>> before. Before the VG installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the
>> nose wheel off the runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly
>> down.
>>
>> I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft Spruce:
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
>>
>> The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the provided 3M
>> dual side tape once I painted them. :o)
>>
>> Galin
>> N819PR
>>
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>> /" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com
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