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1. 09:00 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Kent Pyle)
2. 09:33 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Alfred Rosa)
3. 11:10 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Galin Hernandez)
4. 11:55 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Kent Pyle)
5. 04:54 PM - Re: Vortex Generators (Flyinisfun@aol.com)
6. 08:12 PM - Re: Vortex Generators ()
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Galin, any of the goo's obtained at the hardware store should work. I
put the goo on a popsickle stick so I could control the amount. Keep
the goo in the center of the generator so when pressed in place it will
create a mess. A piece of paper towel will help control any mess. ( I
had very little smearing. Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: Galin Hernandez
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
Shoe-goo, now THAT is an idea. Was it a messy or a fairly clean
install? I totally agree that the elevator seems much firmer at the low
speed and at the flare. I am sold on them.
Galin
N819PR
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kent Pyle <kentpyle@iland.net>
wrote:
Galin, I had the same results. The elevator seemed soft upon trying
to flair. With the installation of the generators, the elevator seems
much firmed. I glued mine in place with shoe goo. Kent
w
----- Original Message -----
From: Galin Hernandez
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
All;
I installed Vortex generators on the bottom of my KIS4 elevator.
It made no difference on climb or cruise that I could tell but on a BIG
difference on approach and landing. I had a significant increase in
elevator authority at low airspeed and could keep the nose at a higher
attitude than before all the way to touchdown. This was especially
evident when I easily kept the nose off the runway for a good 500ft
after touchdown. The nose wheel finally touched down at a significantly
slower speed than I had been able to do before. Before the VG
installation, no matter how hard I tried to keep the nose wheel off the
runway, as soon as the mains touched the nose came firmly down.
I used the STOLSPEED Vortex Generators available at Aircraft
Spruce: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stolspeed.php
The hardest part of the entire installation was trimming the
provided 3M dual side tape once I painted them. :o)
Galin
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Do you lose any speed in cruise with them?
Al
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kent Pyle <kentpyle@iland.net>
> wrote:
> Galin, I had the same results. The elevator seemed soft upon
> trying to flair. With the installation of the generators, the
> elevator seems much firmed. I glued mine in place with shoe goo.
> Kent
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> w
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Al;
Not that I can tell but I haven't made any tests for actual data.
Galin
N819PR
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Alfred Rosa <76papa@dishmail.net> wrote:
> Do you lose any speed in cruise with them?
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> Al
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kent Pyle <kentpyle@iland.net> wrote:
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>> Galin, I had the same results. The elevator seemed soft upon trying to
>> flair. With the installation of the generators, the elevator seems much
>> firmed. I glued mine in place with shoe goo. Kent
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>> w
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Not that I can determine. Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: Alfred Rosa
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
Do you lose any speed in cruise with them?
Al
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kent Pyle <kentpyle@iland.net>
wrote:
Galin, I had the same results. The elevator seemed soft upon
trying to flair. With the installation of the generators, the elevator
seems much firmed. I glued mine in place with shoe goo. Kent
w
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
This is Jesse Wright and have been reading the results of V.T. generators
on the elevator stab. underneath. This has been one of my problems in a
flair. The elevator is so soft that I loose where I am at with it and over
control because I can's feel anything. Has anyone tried them on the 2 place
and would they be installed about the same location, about 4 inches
forward of the hinge line?
Jesse
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
12/15/2009
Hello Jesse, What are you doing with your engine RPM during the final stages
of the approach and during the flare?
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Flyinisfun@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Vortex Generators
> This is Jesse Wright and have been reading the results of V.T. generators
> on the elevator stab. underneath. This has been one of my problems in a
> flair. The elevator is so soft that I loose where I am at with it and
> over
> control because I can's feel anything. Has anyone tried them on the 2
> place
> and would they be installed about the same location, about 4 inches
> forward of the hinge line?
>
> Jesse
>
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