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1. 03:07 AM - Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes (ALFRED ROSA)
2. 04:11 AM - Re: moved (Richard Trickel)
3. 04:47 AM - AW: Re: moved (Twellmann, Ralf)
4. 05:18 AM - Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector ()
5. 05:28 AM - Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes ()
6. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: moved (Galin Hernandez)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: moved (F. Tim Yoder)
8. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: moved (Robert Reed)
9. 08:22 AM - Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector (Scott Stearns)
10. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: moved (Flyinisfun@aol.com)
11. 09:02 AM - Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes (Richard Trickel)
12. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: moved (Mike Pienaar)
13. 09:26 AM - Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes |
I used hard rivits.
Al
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secure the
> threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
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To all
I am no longer with Pulsar.- I am still in the composite business but hop
efully this will be a better job.- My support will still be available but
will no longer have access to parts for the planes.- As you know getting
parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it was not from what
you think.-
I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job especially over th
e last two years.- We just never went anywhere and never had money.
I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
Rich
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
I used hard rivits.
-
Al
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secure the threaded
rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
-
Thanks
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Mike
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Hi Rich,
good luck with your new job and best regards from (cold) Germany!
Ralf Twellmann (KIS#104)
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[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Richard
Trickel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2010 13:11
An: kis-list@matronics.com
Betreff: KIS-List: Re: moved
To all
I am no longer with Pulsar. I am still in the composite business but
hopefully this will be a better job. My support will still be available
but will no longer have access to parts for the planes. As you know
getting parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it was not
from what you think.
I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job especially over
the last two years. We just never went anywhere and never had money.
I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
Rich
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:06 AM
I used hard rivits.
Al
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca
<http://us.mc1107.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjpienaar@shaw.ca> >
wrote:
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to
secure the threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector |
1/27/2010
Hello Mike, I find that stainless steel hex socket (Allen) drive screws give
a very attractive high tech look. They were used on my instrument panel and
many other places on the airplane including out of sight.
Also where possible I used stainless steel Torx (6 lobe) drive screws in
many applications. In fact one would be hard pressed to find a Phillips
drive screw any place on my airplane.
Check out Microfasteners for a source of the above hex socket and Torx drive
screws:
http://www.microfasteners.com/
For driving these screws you need the right tools. A cordless screw driver
with the right insert bits makes working with these screws a pleasure. See
here for some handy kits:
http://www.chapmanmfg.com/default.htm
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
PS: After years of search efforts in many different places I finally got
Microfasteners to create stainless steel, 100 degree countersink, flat head,
Torx (6 lobe) drive screws. These are used throughout my plane where
possible. I know of no other source for these screws:
http://www.microfasteners.com/catalog/products/SSCFCMXS.cfm
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From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:16 AM
Subject: KIS-List: ANDAIR Fuel Selector
If any body used the ANDAIR fuel selector what esthetically pleasing screws
did you use to secure the bezel
Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes |
1/27/2010
Hello Mike, Definitely the hard rivets.
Attached is a picture of a KIS TR-1 that had an aileron push tube
disconnect. It was never conclusively proved what caused the end of the
aileron tube to become disconnected. Could have sheared off.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
PS: Very dramatic story of how the pilot survived.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:20 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secure the threaded
rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
Thanks
Mike
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Good lock Rich and keep in touch.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Richard Trickel
<richard_trickel@yahoo.com>wrote:
> To all
> I am no longer with Pulsar. I am still in the composite business but
> hopefully this will be a better job. My support will still be available but
> will no longer have access to parts for the planes. As you know getting
> parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it was not from what
> you think.
> I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job especially over
> the last two years. We just never went anywhere and never had money.
> I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
> Rich
>
> --- On *Wed, 1/27/10, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>* wrote:
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> From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:06 AM
>
> I used hard rivits.
>
> Al
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca<http://us.mc1107.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
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>> Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secure the
>> threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
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>> Thanks
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>> Mike
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Good luck Rich. Where are you headed?
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Trickel
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:10 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: moved
To all
I am no longer with Pulsar. I am still in the composite
business but hopefully this will be a better job. My support will still
be available but will no longer have access to parts for the planes. As
you know getting parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it
was not from what you think.
I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job
especially over the last two years. We just never went anywhere and
never had money.
I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
Rich
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:06 AM
I used hard rivits.
Al
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar
<mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to
secure the threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
Thanks
Mike
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Rich,=0A=0ABest of luck in your new endevor and please keep in touch.=0A=0A
PS:- Is there any chance that I can obtain the Bill-of-Sale that I will n
eed for obtaining my registration before you leave?=0A=0ABob Reed=0A=0A-
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Richard Trickel <richa
rd_trickel@yahoo.com>=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, January 27,
2010 6:10:46 AM=0ASubject: KIS-List: Re: moved=0A=0A=0ATo all=0AI am no lo
nger with Pulsar.- I am still in the composite business but hopefully thi
s will be a better job.- My support will still be available but will no l
onger have access to parts for the planes.- As you know getting parts sen
t from El Salvador was always a problem but it was not from what you think.
- =0AI enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job especially
over the last two years.- We just never went anywhere and never had money
. =0AI am looking forward to doing something more constructive.=0ARich=0A
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rom: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>=0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator a
nd aileron push tubes=0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>Date: Wednesday, Jan
uary 27, 2010, 3:06 AM=0A>=0A>=0A>I used hard rivits.=0A>=0A>Al=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>-=0A>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca
> wrote:=0A>=0A>Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secu
re the threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes=0A>>
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| Subject: | Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector |
I used philips head AN screws with the built in washer because they are low
er profile.- If you use the normal kind they stick up too far and the han
dle catches on the screws.- Scott
--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
Subject: KIS-List: ANDAIR Fuel Selector
If any body used-the ANDAIR-fuel selector what esthetically pleasing sc
rews did you use to secure the bezel
-
Thanks
-
Mike
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Good luck Rich. Sorry you will be moving. I can emagine it's not easy.
Let us know where you land.
Jesse
To all
I am no longer with Pulsar. I am still in the composite business but
hopefully this will be a better job. My support will still be available but
will no longer have access to parts for the planes. As you know getting
parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it was not from what you
think.
I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job especially over
the last two years. We just never went anywhere and never had money.
I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
Rich
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator and aileron push tubes |
who=B4s plane is this/
RICH
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, bakerocb@cox.net <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
From: bakerocb@cox.net <bakerocb@cox.net>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
1/27/2010
Hello Mike, Definitely the hard rivets.
Attached is a picture of a KIS TR-1 that had an aileron push tube disconnec
t. It was never conclusively proved what caused the end of the aileron tube
to become disconnected. Could have sheared off.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and und
erstand knowledge."
PS: Very dramatic story of how the pilot survived.
=====================
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:20 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to secure the threaded
rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
Thanks
Mike
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Good Luck Rich, Please keep in touch
Regards
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Trickel
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:10 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: moved
To all
I am no longer with Pulsar. I am still in the composite
business but hopefully this will be a better job. My support will still
be available but will no longer have access to parts for the planes. As
you know getting parts sent from El Salvador was always a problem but it
was not from what you think.
I enjoyed my stay in El Salvador but got to hate the job
especially over the last two years. We just never went anywhere and
never had money.
I am looking forward to doing something more constructive.
Rich
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Elevator and aileron push tubes
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:06 AM
I used hard rivits.
Al
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Mike Pienaar
<mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Does one use soft or hard (A or AD) aluminum rivets to
secure the threaded rod ends in the elevator and aileron push/pull tubes
Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: ANDAIR Fuel Selector |
You can also special order a replacement faceplate from ANDAIR that has counter
sunk holes that work nicely with a #8 flush head screw. See the attached photo
of my RV-8 installation.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com
Finishing Up...
At 08:21 AM 1/27/2010 Wednesday, you wrote:
>I used philips head AN screws with the built in washer because they are lower
profile. If you use the normal kind they stick up too far and the handle catches
on the screws. Scott
>
>--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
>Subject: KIS-List: ANDAIR Fuel Selector
>To: "KISBUILDERS" <kis-list@matronics.com>
>Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:16 PM
>
>If any body used the ANDAIR fuel selector what esthetically pleasing screws did
you use to secure the bezel
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
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