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Tue 05/04/10


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     1. 05:55 AM - Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg (Graham Brighton)
     2. 07:16 AM - Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg (Robert Reed)
     3. 11:58 AM - Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:55:08 AM PST US
    From: "Graham Brighton" <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg
    Thx Hans , His story is a bit similar in that my home r/way is just 450 mtrs too ...and i often land in 200 mtrs as that is the taxi way off on one end .. wasn't so terrific wilh a dead engine though ..as i landed 50 mtrs short ..in the paddock !! Thx Rick ..rear spar attachments sounds a good shot .. ...(rather than main spar damage ...) will get to it asap ...i am the third owner and so am not that clued up on all the construction ...i had my TR1 shipped over to me here 'Down-under ' three yrs ago .. .. For Now Graham . . ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:40 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Forced Landing Nose Leg Graham If the wing moves a little for and aft it might be because the rear spar bolt/bushing took a hit Remove the lower fairing and check whilw someone moves the wing back and forth. I dought you have a problen with the main spar but I would remove the wing from the airplaner anyway to give it a good look. Rich --- On Mon, 5/3/10, Graham Brighton <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au> wrote: From: Graham Brighton <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au> Subject: KIS-List: Forced Landing Nose Leg To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 5:17 AM G'day All, Bit of an update ...Bob Bohemier kindly set me up with a replacement nose leg ...which he got off to me in record short time ..thx Bob .. The leg arrived today and looks fine but mite be one inch longer perhaps ... The original one is a bit mangled so doesn't measure very easily .. Have pulled the engine out and found some more damage .. The bottom Nose Leg mount has pushed back into the Fire Wall surface causing some damage there ... And if i grab one wing-tip and tug it fore and aft ...i get some free movement .. !!! ...lifting the wing-tip straight up and down the wing seems good and solid though .. The other wing is ok and solid both ways .. The forced landing was light ..and onto rough soft soil ... The Nose leg broke and folded back on contact ..and the broken leg only left a scrape mark in the ground 30 yrds long ... where we came to a halt ..!! Would be very surprised if i have Spar damage but..... ?? Engine is out ...but not pulled down ...so far can see one broken Valve head .. (and holed piston) and a possible dislodged Valve seat .. Will know more as i progress along .. Any input appreciated Graham =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:16:25 AM PST US
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg
    Graham,=0A=0AI not sure if you are aware that my web site has a ton of cons truction photos of the TR-4 and TR-1 aircraft as well as the construction m anuals for both aircraft.- You may be able to find some useful details an d photos to help you with your repairs.=0A=0Awww.kisbuild.onfinal18.com=0A =0ABob Reed=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gr aham Brighton <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com=0ASen t: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:51:37 AM=0ASubject: Re: KIS-List: Forced Landing Nose Leg=0A=0A=0AThx Hans ,=0A---------------- ----------His story is a bit similar in that my home r/ way is just 450 mtrs too ...and i often-land -in 200 mtrs as that is th e taxi way off on one end .. wasn't so terrific wilh a dead engine though . .as i landed 50 mtrs short ..in the paddock !!=0A-=0AThx Rick ..rear spar attachments sounds a good shot ..-...(rather than main spar damage ...) will get to it asap ...i am the third owner and so am not that clued up on all the construction ...i had my TR1 shipped over to me here 'Down-under ' three yrs ago .. ..=0A-=0AFor Now=0A-=0AGraham =0A-=0A.=0A-=0A.=0A- ---- Original Message ----- =0A>From: Richard Trickel =0A>To: kis-list@matr onics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:40 AM=0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Forced Landing Nose Leg=0A>=0A>=0A>Graham=0A>If the wing moves a little fo r and aft it might be because the rear spar bolt/bushing took a hit=0A>Remo ve the lower fairing and check whilw someone moves the wing back and forth. =0A>I dought you have a problen with the main spar but I would remove the w ing from the airplaner anyway to give it a good look.=0A>Rich=0A>=0A>--- On Mon, 5/3/10, Graham Brighton <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au> wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A> >From: Graham Brighton <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>=0A>>Subject: KIS-List: Fo rced Landing Nose Leg=0A>>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>>Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 5:17 AM=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>G'day All,=0A>>--------- --------- Bit of an update ...Bob Bohemier kindly set me up with a replacement nose leg ...which he got off to me in record short ti me ..thx Bob ..- The leg- arrived today and looks fine but mite be one inch longer perhaps ... The original one is a bit mangled so doesn't measur e very easily ..=0A>>-=0A>>Have pulled the engine out and found some more damage ..- The bottom Nose Leg mount- has pushed back into the-Fire Wall surface causing some damage there ...-=0A>>-=0A>>And if i grab one wing-tip and tug it fore and aft ...i get some free movement .. !!! ...lif ting the wing-tip straight up and down the wing seems good and solid though .. The other wing is ok and solid both ways ..=0A>>-=0A>>The forced land ing was light ..and onto rough soft soil ... The Nose leg broke and folded back on contact ..and the broken leg only left a scrape mark in the ground 30 yrds long ... where we came to a halt ..!!=0A>>-=0A>>Would be very sur prised-if i have Spar damage- but..... ??=0A>>-=0A>>Engine is out- -...but not pulled down ...so far can see one broken Valve head .. (and h oled piston) and a possible dislodged Valve seat ..=0A>>-=0A>>Will know m ore as i progress along ..=0A>>-=0A>>Any input appreciated =0A>>-=0A>>G raham =0A>>-=0A>>-=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=nofollow target=_blank>http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-Listet=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com=0A >>llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>>=0A>> =0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http: //forums.matronics.com=0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">ht


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    Time: 11:58:12 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Forced Landing Nose Leg
    5/4/2010 Hello Graham, I really appreciate your contributions to this group. You wrote: "...and i often land in 200 mtrs as that is the taxi way off on one end .. " Would you please tell us how you are flying the approach and landing (configuration, air speeds, flaring technique, etc.) to achieve this 200 meters taxi turn off distance? Thanks, 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Brighton" <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Forced Landing Nose Leg Thx Hans , His story is a bit similar in that my home r/way is just 450 mtrs too ...and i often land in 200 mtrs as that is the taxi way off on one end .. wasn't so terrific wilh a dead engine though ..as i landed 50 mtrs short ..in the paddock !! Thx Rick ..rear spar attachments sounds a good shot .. ...(rather than main spar damage ...) will get to it asap ...i am the third owner and so am not that clued up on all the construction ...i had my TR1 shipped over to me here 'Down-under ' three yrs ago .. .. For Now Graham




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