---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/31/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:21 AM - Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC (F. Tim Yoder) 2. 06:21 AM - Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC (F. Tim Yoder) 3. 01:44 PM - Re: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC (Scott Stearns) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:21 AM PST US From: "F. Tim Yoder" Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC The Cirrus has a 1" down rod. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > 5/30/2010 > > Hello Ted, You wrote: > > 1) "L think its time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the > original skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or > Grumman nose wheel including the wheel assembly." > > {Response} What sort of problems are you having that causes you to make > this suggestion at this time? Your suggestion implies that the skinny > spring steel strut is OK, but that the lower end is causing problems. > > 2) "These are larger diameter legs and have proven wheel adjustment > parts." > > {Response} I never had one of the skinny spring steel nose landing gear > strut / assemblies so I am not familiar with its lower end. Both the > streamlined shaped strut that I received initially and the subsequent > round strut that Lyle Hendricks made for me had a 3/4 inch diameter (if I > remember right) vertical stub at the bottom end. > > Are you suggesting that the RVs and Grummans (how about the Cirruses?) > have a larger diameter vertical stub and that we should go in that > direction in order to use the remainder of the lower end assembly that > those aircraft have? > > 3) "[I remember what OC went through to develop his Teflon washer > design]." > > {Response} I replaced the Belleville washers in my nose landing gear > vertical stub stack up with nylon washers. They have given me excellent > service. I have no nose wheel shimmy problems. The friction is pretty > tight and it takes a good stab at the brake pedal to change direction of > taxi. > > I don't know where one could buy standard sized Teflon washers ready made > in small quantities. Do you know of such a source? > > 3) "L will sign off and watch the site light up/off." > > I too look forward to the thoughts and comments of other KIS builders on > this issue. Lyle, do you have any thoughts on Ted's suggestion? > > Thanks, > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort > to gather and understand knowledge." > > =========================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 6:19 PM > Subject: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > >> >> >> OC and others >> L think its time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the >> original >> skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or Grumman nose >> wheel including the wheel assembly.These are larger diameter legs and >> have >> proven wheel adjustment parts.[I remember what OC went through to develop >> his Teflon washer design]. >> L will sign off and watch the site light up/off. >> Ted > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:51 AM PST US From: "F. Tim Yoder" Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC The Cirrus has a 1" down rod. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > 5/30/2010 > > Hello Ted, You wrote: > > 1) "L think its time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the > original skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or > Grumman nose wheel including the wheel assembly." > > {Response} What sort of problems are you having that causes you to make > this suggestion at this time? Your suggestion implies that the skinny > spring steel strut is OK, but that the lower end is causing problems. > > 2) "These are larger diameter legs and have proven wheel adjustment > parts." > > {Response} I never had one of the skinny spring steel nose landing gear > strut / assemblies so I am not familiar with its lower end. Both the > streamlined shaped strut that I received initially and the subsequent > round strut that Lyle Hendricks made for me had a 3/4 inch diameter (if I > remember right) vertical stub at the bottom end. > > Are you suggesting that the RVs and Grummans (how about the Cirruses?) > have a larger diameter vertical stub and that we should go in that > direction in order to use the remainder of the lower end assembly that > those aircraft have? > > 3) "[I remember what OC went through to develop his Teflon washer > design]." > > {Response} I replaced the Belleville washers in my nose landing gear > vertical stub stack up with nylon washers. They have given me excellent > service. I have no nose wheel shimmy problems. The friction is pretty > tight and it takes a good stab at the brake pedal to change direction of > taxi. > > I don't know where one could buy standard sized Teflon washers ready made > in small quantities. Do you know of such a source? > > 3) "L will sign off and watch the site light up/off." > > I too look forward to the thoughts and comments of other KIS builders on > this issue. Lyle, do you have any thoughts on Ted's suggestion? > > Thanks, > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort > to gather and understand knowledge." > > =========================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 6:19 PM > Subject: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > >> >> >> OC and others >> L think its time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the >> original >> skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or Grumman nose >> wheel including the wheel assembly.These are larger diameter legs and >> have >> proven wheel adjustment parts.[I remember what OC went through to develop >> his Teflon washer design]. >> L will sign off and watch the site light up/off. >> Ted > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:55 PM PST US From: Scott Stearns Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC I think if I were building a nosegear KIS I'd take a hard look at just buyi ng a nosegear from an RV-6 or 9 and adapting it.- RVs have their own prob lems, but the noselegs don't seem to collapse.- - Scott --- On Mon, 5/31/10, F. Tim Yoder wrote: From: F. Tim Yoder Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC The Cirrus has a 1" down rod. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: mclam@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > 5/30/2010 > > Hello Ted, You wrote: > > 1) "L think its- time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the o riginal skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or Grumma n nose wheel including the wheel assembly." > > {Response} What sort of problems are you having that causes you to make t his suggestion at this time? Your suggestion implies that the skinny spring steel strut is OK, but that the lower end is causing problems. > > 2) "These are larger diameter legs and have proven wheel adjustment parts ." > > {Response} I never had one of the skinny spring steel nose landing gear s trut / assemblies so I am not familiar with its lower end. Both the streaml ined shaped strut that I received initially and the subsequent round strut that Lyle Hendricks made for me had a 3/4 inch diameter (if I remember righ t) vertical stub at the bottom end. > > Are you suggesting that the RVs and Grummans (how about the Cirruses?) ha ve a larger diameter vertical stub and that we should go in that direction in order to use the remainder of the lower end assembly that those aircraft have? > > 3) "[I remember what OC went through to develop his Teflon washer design] ." > > {Response} I replaced the Belleville washers in my nose landing gear vert ical stub stack up with nylon washers. They have given me excellent service . I have no nose wheel shimmy problems. The friction is pretty tight and it takes a good stab at the brake pedal to change direction of taxi. > > I don't know where one could buy standard sized Teflon washers ready made in small quantities. Do you know of such a source? > > 3) "L will sign off and watch the site light up/off." > > I too look forward to the thoughts and comments of other KIS builders on this issue. Lyle, do you have any thoughts on Ted's suggestion? > > Thanks, > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge." > > ======================== =================== > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 6:19 PM > Subject: KIS-List: TR1 NG Leg/OC?OC > > >> >> >> OC and others >> L think its- time to talk about cutting off the lower part of the orig inal >> skinny nose gear leg and splicing on a lower part of a RV or Grumman nos e >> wheel including the wheel assembly.These are larger diameter legs and ha ve >> proven wheel adjustment parts.[I remember what OC went through to develo p >> his Teflon washer design]. >>- L will sign off and watch the site light up/off. >>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ted > > > > > > le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.