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Mon 06/28/10


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     1. 06:52 AM - Re: web (Richard Trickel)
     2. 06:52 AM - Re: engine (Richard Trickel)
     3. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: engine (Robert Reed)
     4. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: web (Larry David)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:52:46 AM PST US
    From: Richard Trickel <richard_trickel@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: web
    GALIEN Thanks.- There is no web page yet but it is in the works.- We really wa nt to have some data before we go to far. Rich --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote: From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: picts Rich; - What a BEAUTIFUL airplane. The swept tail, winglets with the white paint an d the stripes really stand out making it look great. I know the winglets do n't do much/anything for performance but they do look good. Everywhere I go people flock to my airplane comenting about the paint and the winglets.- Probably a marketing ploy? You need to bring it to Sun-n-Fun so I can see i t up close and personal. - Also, does the company have a webpage where we can see-how things progres s? - Galin- On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Richard Trickel <richard_trickel@yahoo.co m> wrote: To all I am sinding a few picts of the plane I am doing in Brasil.- The first is the fuselage master that we converted to a mockup and the second with the old guy is with wing attached.- Right now the winglets are not in the pla n prefering a more shark type wing tip. There are a- few differences in this plane from the cruiser.- The obvio us is thae all new fuselage.- We have made it a little longer.-The hori zontal stab is also bigger. -The wing will be a single piece spar and is moved forward along with the firewall.- There is more room behind the eng ine also.- We are ready to start producing the outer parts but still work ing n the rib and spar molds. Rich --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote: From: Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show I had the original tube gear because the spring gear would not clear the oi l screen housing on my 0235 so I stuck with the tube gear with some of my o wn mods and it made it this long. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show Ken Time really flies and your daughter is old enough to fly.- Congrats to he r. I remember when she was born.- Hope the family is all well.- I do no t know what gear you have so we better start there.- If you have the orig inal tube gear without shock it seems it was heat treated to a rockwell 70. - the later spring/shock gears were not heat treated.- The airfoil tube gear had stiffners added to the sides but again not heated.- let me know Rich --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote: From: Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show Hi Rich! Im glad to see you still have your hand in. I have been flying my Kis for 15 years now and am still around, however my daughter just bent the original nose gear thus my question . I am rebuilding the nose gear I am g oing to larger tubing but need to know how hard did you make the original. I have all the specs but that one. Ken Philcox N496KP ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: KIS-List: Re: local show Hi All just a short note.- This last week I spent at the EAD show in Brasil wher e the company I work for Introduced their new plane called the Volare.- T he plane was a mock up but we are working on the molds and will start produ cing parts soon.- Its a fourplace that is a big departure from the KiS Cr uiser.--Larger and more aerodynamic looking.- When somebody uploads a picture on my computer I will send it along.-It generated a lot of inter est. Experimental aviation here is pretty big with a lot of local LSA type being designed and built and one high wing four place that I saw.- here their experimental catagory is very simular to the states but most planes are bui lt by builder assist companies.- They have several that are relativly big and also set up booths at the show.- The EAD show is a four day event wi th the first days for just businesses and then the normal population.- Th e show was held on the field where Embrear manufactures some of their bugge r planes so the participated also. They flew their EMB 195 and several othe rs including the Phenom 100 and 300 There was quite a turnout.- They had airshows Sat. & Sunday. Rich --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> wrote: From: Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Seeing Matronics List Attachments OC, you can shrink the display of the picture-by holding the control key down and pressing the minus key a couple of times.-(This works in Firefox and I assume other browsers.)-Of course the accompanying text will shrin k also.- It looks like the device is about 6-8 inches in front of the lea ding edge of the tail and the device itself is about 6-8 inches long.- Am I guessing right on the sizing?- LarryOn 6/21/2010 4:53:24 AM, bakerocb@ cox.net wrote: > 6/21/2010 > > Hello Fellow KIS Listers, I wrote: " PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I pos ted > a jpg picture on the KIS list (see here I hope): > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 > > > > and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum wa s > > so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to find the area of =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:52:46 AM PST US
    From: Richard Trickel <richard_trickel@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: engine
    Ralph Right now we are staying with the 180 to 210 hp engines.=C2- There are se veral to choose from from Lycoming and Continental.=C2-Our plans is to=C2 -make mounts for both as testing goes starting with the Lycoming which ha s both the 180 hp 360cu inch and the 210 hp 390 cu inch.=C2- Maybe in the future we will try larger engines. Rich --- On Sun, 6/27/10, Twellmann, Ralf <r.twellmann@steute.com> wrote: From: Twellmann, Ralf <r.twellmann@steute.com> Subject: AW: KIS-List: Re: picts Hi Rich, this looks great, even my wife likes it and that is important! What is the smallest engine for what it is desingned for? What are your fur ther plans with it? Best regards from Germany, Ralf Twellmann , KIS # 104 -------------------------- Zur Verf=C3=83=C2=BCgung gestellt von my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld Von: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com An: kis-list@matronics.com Gesendet: Sun Jun 27 17:17:12 2010 Betreff: KIS-List: Re: picts To all I am sinding a few picts of the plane I am doing in Brasil.=C2- The first is the fuselage master that we converted to a mockup and the second with t he old guy is with wing attached.=C2- Right now the winglets are not in t he plan prefering a more shark type wing tip. There are a=C2- few differences in this plane from the cruiser.=C2- The obvious is thae all new fuselage.=C2- We have made it a little longer. =C2-The horizontal stab is also bigger. =C2-The wing will be a single p iece spar and is moved forward along with the firewall.=C2- There is more room behind the engine also.=C2- We are ready to start producing the out er parts but still working n the rib and spar molds. Rich --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote: From: Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show I had the original tube gear because the spring gear would not clear the oi l screen housing on my 0235 so I stuck with the tube gear with some of my o wn mods and it made it this long. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show Ken Time really flies and your daughter is old enough to fly.=C2- Congrats to her. I remember when she was born.=C2- Hope the family is all well.=C2 - I do not know what gear you have so we better start there.=C2- If you have the original tube gear without shock it seems it was heat treated to a rockwell 70.=C2- the later spring/shock gears were not heat treated.=C2 - The airfoil tube gear had stiffners added to the sides but again not he ated.=C2- let me know Rich --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote: From: Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show Hi Rich! Im glad to see you still have your hand in. I have been flying my Kis for 15 years now and am still around, however my daughter just bent the original nose gear thus my question . I am rebuilding the nose gear I am g oing to larger tubing but need to know how hard did you make the original. I have all the specs but that one. Ken Philcox N496KP ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: KIS-List: Re: local show Hi All just a short note.=C2- This last week I spent at the EAD show in Brasil w here the company I work for Introduced their new plane called the Volare. =C2- The plane was a mock up but we are working on the molds and will sta rt producing parts soon.=C2- Its a fourplace that is a big departure from the KiS Cruiser.=C2-=C2-Larger and more aerodynamic looking.=C2- Whe n somebody uploads a picture on my computer I will send it along.=C2-It g enerated a lot of interest. Experimental aviation here is pretty big with a lot of local LSA type being designed and built and one high wing four place that I saw.=C2- here the ir experimental catagory is very simular to the states but most planes are built by builder assist companies.=C2- They have several that are relativ ly big and also set up booths at the show.=C2- The EAD show is a four day event with the first days for just businesses and then the normal populati on.=C2- The show was held on the field where Embrear manufactures some of their bugger planes so the participated also. They flew their EMB 195 and several others including the Phenom 100 and 300 There was quite a turnout. =C2- They had airshows Sat. & Sunday. Rich --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> wrote: From: Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Seeing Matronics List Attachments OC, you can shrink the display of the picture=C2-by holding the control k ey down and pressing the minus key a couple of times.=C2-(This works in F irefox and I assume other browsers.)=C2-Of course the accompanying text w ill shrink also.=C2- It looks like the device is about 6-8 inches in fron t of the leading edge of the tail and the device itself is about 6-8 inches long.=C2- Am I guessing right on the sizing?=C2- LarryOn 6/21/2010 4:5 3:24 AM, bakerocb@cox.net wrote: > 6/21/2010 > > Hello Fellow KIS Listers, I wrote: " PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I pos ted > a jpg picture on the KIS list (see here I hope): > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560 > > > > and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum wa s > > so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to find the area of =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4 =C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2 =AB8^(=9E=B9=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF =BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6 =C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD =C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0 =C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2 =A9=C2=B6*'=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:44:26 AM PST US
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Subject: Re: engine
    Rich,=0A=0AThat is one beautiful airplane but the linage is obvious and it still looks as good as ever.=C2- Look forward to seeing how it progresses .=0A=0ABob Reed=0A=0A=C2-=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF rom: Richard Trickel <richard_trickel@yahoo.com>=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.c om=0ASent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:48:30 AM=0ASubject: KIS-List: Re: engine=0A =0A=0ARalph=0ARight now we are staying with the 180 to 210 hp engines.=C2 - There are several to choose from from Lycoming and Continental.=C2-Ou r plans is to=C2-make mounts for both as testing goes starting with the L ycoming which has both the 180 hp 360cu inch and the 210 hp 390 cu inch.=C2 - Maybe in the future we will try larger engines.=0ARich=0A=0A--- On Sun, 6/27/10, Twellmann, Ralf <r.twellmann@steute.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: Tw ellmann, Ralf <r.twellmann@steute.com>=0A>Subject: AW: KIS-List: Re: picts =0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 6:13 PM=0A> =0A>=0A>Hi Rich,=0A>=0A>this looks great, even my wife likes it and that is important!=0A>What is the smallest engine for what it is desingned for? Wh at are your further plans with it?=0A>=0A>Best regards from Germany,=0A>=0A >Ralf Twellmann , KIS # 104 =0A>-------------------------- =0A>Zur Verf=C3 =83=C2=BCgung gestellt von my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld =0A>=0A>=0A_____ ___________________________=0AVon: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com =0A> An: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>Gesendet: Sun Jun 27 17:17:12 2010=0A>Betref f: KIS-List: Re: picts =0A>=0A>To all=0A>I am sinding a few picts of the pl ane I am doing in Brasil.=C2- The first is the fuselage master that we co nverted to a mockup and the second with the old guy is with wing attached. =C2- Right now the winglets are not in the plan prefering a more shark ty pe wing tip.=0A>There are a=C2- few differences in this plane from the cr uiser.=C2- The obvious is thae all new fuselage.=C2- We have made it a little longer.=C2-The horizontal stab is also bigger. =C2-The wing will be a single piece spar and is moved forward along with the firewall.=C2- There is more room behind the engine also.=C2- We are ready to start pro ducing the outer parts but still working n the rib and spar molds.=0A>Rich =0A>=0A>--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote:=0A>=0A >=0A>>From: Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net>=0A>>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show=0A>>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>>Date: Wednesday, June 23, 20 10, 2:22 PM=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I had the original tube gear because the spring g ear would not clear the oil screen housing on my 0235 so I stuck with the t ube gear with some of my own mods and it made it this long.=0A>>----- Origi nal Message ----- =0A>>>From: Richard Trickel =0A>>>To: kis-list@matronics. com =0A>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:54 PM=0A>>>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Ken=0A>>>Time really flies and your daughte r is old enough to fly.=C2- Congrats to her. I remember when she was born .=C2- Hope the family is all well.=C2- I do not know what gear you have so we better start there.=C2- If you have the original tube gear without shock it seems it was heat treated to a rockwell 70.=C2- the later sprin g/shock gears were not heat treated.=C2- The airfoil tube gear had stiffn ers added to the sides but again not heated.=C2- let me know=0A>>>Rich=0A >>>--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wrote:=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>>From: Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net>=0A>>>>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show=0A>>>>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>>>>Date: Tuesd ay, June 22, 2010, 6:31 PM=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Hi Rich! Im glad to see you still have your hand in. I have been flying my Kis for 15 years now and am still around, however my daughter just bent the original nose gear thus my question . I am rebuilding the nose gear I am going to larger tubing but ne ed to know how hard did you make the original. I have all the specs but tha t one.=0A>>>>Ken Philcox=0A>>>>N496KP=0A>>>>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>>>>From: Richard Trickel =0A>>>>>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>>>>>Se nt: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:42 AM=0A>>>>>Subject: KIS-List: Re: local sho w=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>Hi All=0A>>>>>just a short note.=C2- This last w eek I spent at the EAD show in Brasil where the company I work for Introduc ed their new plane called the Volare.=C2- The plane was a mock up but we are working on the molds and will start producing parts soon.=C2- Its a f ourplace that is a big departure from the KiS Cruiser.=C2-=C2-Larger an d more aerodynamic looking.=C2- When somebody uploads a picture on my com puter I will send it along.=C2-It generated a lot of interest.=0A>>>>>Exp erimental aviation here is pretty big with a lot of local LSA type being de signed and built and one high wing four place that I saw.=C2- here their experimental catagory is very simular to the states but most planes are bui lt by builder assist companies.=C2- They have several that are relativly big and also set up booths at the show.=C2- The EAD show is a four day ev ent with the first days for just businesses and then the normal population. =C2- The show was held on the field where Embrear manufactures some of th eir bugger planes so the participated also. They flew their EMB 195 and sev eral others including the Phenom 100 and 300 There was quite a turnout.=C2 - They had airshows Sat. & Sunday.=0A>>>>>Rich=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> wrote:=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>> >>>From: Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com>=0A>>>>>>Subject: Re: KIS-List : Seeing Matronics List Attachments=0A>>>>>>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>> >>>>Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:06 PM=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>OC, you can shrink the display of the picture=C2-by holding the control key down and pressing the minus key a couple of times.=C2-(This works in Firefox and I assume other browsers.)=C2-Of course the accompanying text will shr ink also.=C2- It looks like the device is about 6-8 inches in front of th e leading edge of the tail and the device itself is about 6-8 inches long. =C2- Am I guessing right on the sizing?=C2- LarryOn 6/21/2010 4:53:24 A M, bakerocb@cox.net wrote:=0A>>>>>>> 6/21/2010=0A>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>> Hello F ellow KIS Listers, I wrote: " PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted=0A>>> >>>> a jpg picture on the KIS list (see here I hope):=0A>>>>>>> >=0A>>>>>>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71560=0A>>>>>>> >=0A>>>>>> > > and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum wa s=0A>>>>>>> > so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to fin d the area of=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>=nofollow target=_blan k>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List=0A>>>>>>et=_blank>http://fo rums.matronics.com=0A>>>>>>llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>href="http:/ /www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?K IS-List=0A>>>>>href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics .com=0A>>>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matro nics.com/c=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=0A>>>>=nofollow target=_blank>http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List=0A>>>>et=_blank>http://forums.matroni cs.com=0A>>>>llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A> >>>=0A>>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List=0A>>>href="http: //forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A>>>href="http://www .matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A> >=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List=0A >>et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com=0A>>llow target=_blank>http://w ww.matronics.com/contribution=0A>>=0A>> =0A>=C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0 =C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3 =C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8^(=9E=B9=C5- =C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x =C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF =C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8" =C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2 -======================== ===========


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    Time: 01:52:44 PM PST US
    From: "Larry David" <lgdavid@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: web
    Rich, Good to hear from you in such a positive upbeat way. Look forward to when you have a web site up so we can follow progress closely. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 6:42 AM Subject: KIS-List: Re: web GALIEN Thanks. There is no web page yet but it is in the works. We reall y want to have some data before we go to far. Rich --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote: From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: picts To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 2:20 AM Rich; What a BEAUTIFUL airplane. The swept tail, winglets with the whit e paint and the stripes really stand out making it look great. I know the w inglets don't do much/anything for performance but they do look good. Every where I go people flock to my airplane comenting about the paint and the wi nglets. Probably a marketing ploy? You need to bring it to Sun-n-Fun so I c an see it up close and personal. Also, does the company have a webpage where we can see how things progress? Galin On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Richard Trickel <richard_tricke l@yahoo.com> wrote: To all I am sinding a few picts of the plane I am doing in Brasi l. The first is the fuselage master that we converted to a mockup and the second with the old guy is with wing attached. Right now the winglets are not in the plan prefering a more shark type wing tip. There are a few differences in this plane from the cruis er. The obvious is thae all new fuselage. We have made it a little longer The horizontal stab is also bigger. The wing will be a single piece spar and is moved forward along with the firewall. There is more room behind t he engine also. We are ready to start producing the outer parts but still working n the rib and spar molds. Rich --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> wro te: From: Ken Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 2:22 PM I had the original tube gear because the spring gear wo uld not clear the oil screen housing on my 0235 so I stuck with the tube ge ar with some of my own mods and it made it this long. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:54 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show Ken Time really flies and your daughter is old enou gh to fly. Congrats to her. I remember when she was born. Hope the family is all well. I do not know what gear you have so we better start there. If you have the original tube gear without shock it seems it was heat treat ed to a rockwell 70. the later spring/shock gears were not heat treated. The airfoil tube gear had stiffners added to the sides but again not heated let me know Rich --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Kenneth Philcox <ken757@co mcast.net> wrote: From: Kenneth Philcox <ken757@comcast.net> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: local show To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 6:31 PM Hi Rich! Im glad to see you still have your h and in. I have been flying my Kis for 15 years now and am still around, how ever my daughter just bent the original nose gear thus my question . I am r ebuilding the nose gear I am going to larger tubing but need to know how ha rd did you make the original. I have all the specs but that one. Ken Philcox N496KP ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: KIS-List: Re: local show Hi All just a short note. This last week I spent at the EAD show in Brasil where the company I work for Introduced their new plane called the Volare. The plane was a mock up but we are working on th e molds and will start producing parts soon. Its a fourplace that is a big departure from the KiS Cruiser. Larger and more aerodynamic looking. Whe n somebody uploads a picture on my computer I will send it along. It genera ted a lot of interest. Experimental aviation here is pretty big wi th a lot of local LSA type being designed and built and one high wing four place that I saw. here their experimental catagory is very simular to the states but most planes are built by builder assist companies. They have se veral that are relativly big and also set up booths at the show. The EAD s how is a four day event with the first days for just businesses and then th e normal population. The show was held on the field where Embrear manufact ures some of their bugger planes so the participated also. They flew their EMB 195 and several others including the Phenom 100 and 300 There was quite a turnout. They had airshows Sat. & Sunday. Rich --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Larry David <lgdavid@r oadrunner.com> wrote: From: Larry David <lgdavid@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Seeing Matronics Lis t Attachments To: kis-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:06 PM OC, you can shrink the display of the pictu re by holding the control key down and pressing the minus key a couple of t imes. (This works in Firefox and I assume other browsers.) Of course the ac companying text will shrink also. It looks like the device is about 6-8 in ches in front of the leading edge of the tail and the device itself is abou t 6-8 inches long. Am I guessing right on the sizing? Larry On 6/21/2010 4:53:24 AM, bakerocb@cox.net w rote: > 6/21/2010 > > Hello Fellow KIS Listers, I wrote: " PS: There is sort of a gotcha. I posted > a jpg picture on the KIS list (see here I hope): > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p hp?t=71560 > > > > and the picture posted just fine except that its layout on the forum was > > so huge such that one had to scroll all over the place to find the area of =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.. com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.. com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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