---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/09/10: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION () 2. 05:38 AM - Re: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION (F. Tim Yoder) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION (Keith.Miller@esa.int) 4. 02:00 PM - Re: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:12 AM PST US From: Subject: KIS-List: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION ----- Original Message ----- From: ; ; "Kettering, Mark" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > 7/9/2010 > > Hello Fellow KIS TR-1 Builders, As promised attached here is a spread > sheet > on the data that I have available on KIS TR-1 main landing gear location. > > It was assembled from data that you provided. Please check it over for any > misinterpretations or miscalculations that I may have made and let me know > of any corrections or expansions needed. > > Thank you, > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort > to > gather and understand knowledge." > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:08 AM PST US From: "F. Tim Yoder" Subject: Re: KIS-List: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION Thanks 'OC', Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:32 AM Subject: KIS-List: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "BAKER, OWEN" ; "ERSTAD, HANS-CHRISTIAN" > ; ; "Kettering, Mark" > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:31 AM > Subject: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > > >> 7/9/2010 >> >> Hello Fellow KIS TR-1 Builders, As promised attached here is a spread >> sheet >> on the data that I have available on KIS TR-1 main landing gear location. >> >> It was assembled from data that you provided. Please check it over for >> any >> misinterpretations or miscalculations that I may have made and let me >> know >> of any corrections or expansions needed. >> >> Thank you, >> >> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort >> to >> gather and understand knowledge." >> > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION From: Keith.Miller@esa.int OC i have added my data, for information I have the Lyle Hendrick Nose gear. and it is touches down very quickly after landing (See attached file: MAIN GEAR LOCATION 2.xls) Sent by: owner-kis-list-ser To ver@matronics.com "KIS-LIST, MATRONICS" cc 09/07/2010 13:32 Subject KIS-List: Fw: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR Please respond to LOCATION kis-list@matronics .com ----- Original Message ----- From: ; ; "Kettering, Mark" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > 7/9/2010 > > Hello Fellow KIS TR-1 Builders, As promised attached here is a spread > sheet > on the data that I have available on KIS TR-1 main landing gear location. > > It was assembled from data that you provided. Please check it over for any > misinterpretations or miscalculations that I may have made and let me know > of any corrections or expansions needed. > > Thank you, > > 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort > to > gather and understand knowledge." > [attachment "MAIN GEAR LOCATION 2.xls" deleted by Keith Miller/estec/ESA] ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:15 PM PST US From: Subject: KIS-List: Re: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION 7/9/2010 Hello Tim, You wrote: 1) "I re measured my axle to station 32 and it is 41.75". I have entered 41.75 inches in the appropriate place in the attached latest version of the spread sheet. 2) "Do you think other input would be helpful." I am open to suggestions -- maybe basic empty weight CG location -- I've added mine. But actual CG location at the time of a maneuver would be of more value. 3) "Maybe the static weight of each wheel?" I don't see how. If we are trying to evaluate the "rotatability factor" on takeoff or the "nose tire touch down factor" on landing then the exact location of the airplane's CG at that moment would seem to be of more value for comparison purposes. But pitch trim setting and piloting technique would seem to be major and difficult to quantify factors in such a comparison. 4) "Do you or Mark think I would benefit by moving main gear forward?" Only if your "rotatability factor" or "nose tire touch down factor" are really annoying you. Wedging the main landing gear forward on a completed airplane would be a fairly significant modification under taking. 5) "Thanks for your efforts." You are welcome. 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge." ====================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Tim Yoder" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:19 PM Subject: Re: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > 'OC', > > I re measured my axle to station 32 and it is 41.75". My previous number > was to the front of the firewall.. So far your 40.25" measurement is the > shortest and on first blush I would think you would have the leas problem > with nose wheel drop. > > Hopefully we will get more participation for a better analysis. > > Do you think other input would be helpful. Maybe the static weight of each > wheel? > > Do you or Mark think I would benefit by moving main gear forward? > > Maybe Rich has a thought to share. > > Thanks for your efforts. It is fun to talk KIS!!! > > Tim ====================================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "BAKER, OWEN" ; "ERSTAD, HANS-CHRISTIAN" > ; ; "Kettering, Mark" > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:31 AM > Subject: KIS TR-1 MAIN GEAR LOCATION > > >> 7/9/2010 >> >> Hello Fellow KIS TR-1 Builders, As promised attached here is a spread >> sheet >> on the data that I have available on KIS TR-1 main landing gear location. >> >> It was assembled from data that you provided. Please check it over for >> any >> misinterpretations or miscalculations that I may have made and let me >> know >> of any corrections or expansions needed. >> >> Thank you, >> >> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort >> to >> gather and understand knowledge." >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.