---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/14/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:26 AM - SV: Picture of fillet (Hans Christian Erstad) 2. 07:55 AM - Re: SV: Picture of fillet (Mark Kettering) 3. 01:43 PM - SV: SV: Picture of fillet (Hans Christian Erstad) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:22 AM PST US From: "Hans Christian Erstad" Subject: SV: KIS-List: Picture of fillet Jesse Thanks for posting the picture. Similar to mod I have in mind. What do you mean you never flew the original? I thought you made the modification after you started flying the aircraft? Julian told me his fillet improved the slow speed handeling. My KIS is very stable and controllable at stall+20 kts. At stall+10 kts the aircraft is a bit "wobbly", small pitch and roll distubances. Don't really need to correct the disturbances, and the aircraft is still responsive to contoll input. At stall speed there are noticable pitch buffeting, and if the stick is kept in the aft position, the aircraft will sharply drop a wing (feels like 90 deg), and I have never attempted to see what hapens after this if do not recover from the stall. Regards, Hans Christian TR-1 #032 _____ Fra: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av Flyinisfun@aol.com Sendt: 14. juli 2010 04:37 Til: kis-list@matronics.com Emne: KIS-List: Picture of fillet Here is an attachment picture of making the wing fillet. How it works compared to the orginal I don't know as I never flew the orginal. Jesse Wright ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:57 AM PST US From: Mark Kettering Subject: Re: SV: KIS-List: Picture of fillet Sounds like just about a perfect stall warning to me. I am not saying that a larger root fillet would not help reduce stall speed. It may. But a good prestall warning is a very important thing to have. If your aircraft is a tail dragger do you have fairings on the gear leg to fuselage junctions? I really like the look of the larger aft wing root fairing. Not really a big fan of the big fairing at the forward part of the wing root. Mark > At stall speed there are noticable pitch buffeting, and if the stick >is kept in the aft position, the aircraft will sharply drop a wing (feels >like 90 deg), and I have never attempted to see what hapens after this if do >not recover from the stall. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:04 PM PST US From: "Hans Christian Erstad" Subject: SV: SV: KIS-List: Picture of fillet Mark My KIS is a nose gear version. It could be that the tail dragger behave differently. I don't think an improved fuselage junction will lower the stall speed, but it will maybe improve the handeling at 10 kts above stall speed? I feel I always am a bit fast on the final approach, as I don't like to fly in the speed where the pre-stall warning wobbliness occurs. But, in ground effect/flare I don't experience the wobbling/unsteadyness. Last weekend I went to the Duxford airshow in the UK. All old airplanes with round fuselages have wing-fuselage fairings that start off with a short radius at the leading edge and ends with a quite large radius at the rear. Regards Hans Christian -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne av Mark Kettering Sendt: 14. juli 2010 16:52 Til: kis-list@matronics.com Emne: Re: SV: KIS-List: Picture of fillet Sounds like just about a perfect stall warning to me. I am not saying that a larger root fillet would not help reduce stall speed. It may. But a good prestall warning is a very important thing to have. If your aircraft is a tail dragger do you have fairings on the gear leg to fuselage junctions? I really like the look of the larger aft wing root fairing. Not really a big fan of the big fairing at the forward part of the wing root. Mark > At stall speed there are noticable pitch buffeting, and if the stick >is kept in the aft position, the aircraft will sharply drop a wing >(feels like 90 deg), and I have never attempted to see what hapens >after this if do not recover from the stall. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.