---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/08/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:08 AM - KIS TR-1 Control Stick Mounting () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:35 AM PST US From: Subject: KIS-List: KIS TR-1 Control Stick Mounting 8/8/2010 Hello Tim, Thanks for the pictures. I found picture 059 (see attached) to be of particular interest. Note that the laterally fixed cross bar between the control sticks in that picture is round and has an adjustable aileron stop bracket (by means of a through bolt) welded onto the bottom of the round cross bar. This bracket is probably what Keith Miller was referring to in his posting on the subject of aileron control stops. When you look at picture 0371 (also attached) you can see that the laterally fixed cross bar has been changed (in my kit # 116) to a square configuration and there is no adjustable aileron bracket welded onto it. It also appears that the vertical position of the laterally fixed round cross bar in picture 059 is higher than the laterally fixed square cross bar in picture 0371 with relation to the wing spar mounting box. This would result in the push rods going out to the ailerons also being higher in picture 059 than in picture 0371. Maybe this would account for the fact that Hans Christian found that the holes in his wing ribs did not match the long aileron push rod vertical position. Perhaps Tri-R made a change in the laterally fixed cross bar from round to square and at the same time lowered the vertical position of the laterally fixed cross bar. What say you Rich? Also note the significant difference in the fore and aft vertical support going to the wing spar mounting box in the two pictures. In picture 059 you can see the exposed edge of the plywood core of this vertical support. In picture 0371 you can see an extensive amount of fiber glass lay up entirely covering this plywood core, which is presumably inside the fiber glass lay up. This lay up was done at the factory as part of the fuselage quick build feature by Bill Grote and his crew. (Bill are you still on the list? Anybody have an email address for Bill?) 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to gather and understand knowledge." PS: Tim, I noticed that you sent a copy of your 8/7/2010 email copied below to the matronics aeroelectric-list rather than the matronics kis list. I imagine that that puzzled a few of the aeroelectric-list readers. Do you want to send your email again to the matronics kis list so that the archives there are complete? ============================================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Tim Yoder" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Prop crack & control stick stops 'OC' & all, The first picture showing a crack in my prop tip (fuzzy). # 2 & 3 show the tab with adjustable bolt for aileron stop, one on each stick. #4 shows the elevator stops mounted to the bottom of the pilot seat. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.