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1. 05:36 AM - Re: KIS TR-1 Joggle Location (Graham Brighton)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: Door Latch Summary? (Graham Brighton)
3. 06:40 AM - KIS TR-1 Joggle Location ()
4. 07:13 AM - Plug and Trim Pictures ()
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| Subject: | Re: KIS TR-1 Joggle Location |
Thanks OC... for the manual page on the Joggle position ... But nor sure if
my holes match the manual drawing for ref measurement point ..?
What do u think ..?
Graham
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----- Original Message -----
From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:45 PM
Subject: KIS-List: KIS TR-1 Joggle Location
> 8/23/2010
>
> Hello Graham, You wrote: "but since thinking about it guess it is the
> lip/edge that the cowl mounts onto ...yep .??"
>
> You are correct in your thinking. Please see the attached Fs05a.bmp file.
>
> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
> to
> gather and understand knowledge."
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Brighton" <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>
> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR-1 Elevator
>
>
> Tim,
> Thought about checking that main gear to 'joggle' measurement
> ...but
> wasn't sure what the joggle was ..? ...but since thinking about it guess
> it
> is the lip/edge that the cowl mounts onto ...yep .??
>
> Wondering too.. if it was a building step in the manual to 'fill
> in' ( with micro balloons or some similar material ) the under skin
> trailing
> stepped edges of the flaps/ailerons/elevators ..like u have ...or whether
> u
> have added the 'fill in' as ur own individual touch ..?
>
> Graham.
>
> ==================================================
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: F. Tim Yoder
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR-1 Elevator
>
>
> Hello Graham,
>
> Yes, with the standard gear position I can hold the nose wheel off after
> touch down,with my enlarged elevator. If you measure your stock elevator
> you
> will know how much I extended mine. 1 1/2" I think.
> At main gear touch down I have to be sure not to relax stick pressure or
> the nose gear will drop. If you can measure your cowl joggle to main gear
> center line you can compare yours with several others that "OC" has on a
> spread sheet. As I understand it, if you wedge your main gear forward it
> reduces the speed of the nose drop which reduces the need for a larger
> elevator to hold the nose
>
> Mine also came that way but I filled them in with micro balloons to
> create
> the 3/16 to 1/4" squared off trailing edge.
>
> Good to hear from you,
>
> Tim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Summary? |
G'Day Ted,
Any Aussie Farmer worth his salt will use some trusty
'fencing wire' ...as first weapon of choice ..... but not quite the
answer for the longer term here .hey ..
Have seen a few good ideas so far ... and just thought i'd throw in
.... the set up on my doors ... In place of the cables pulling the
sprung pins ... on mine the cables have been replaced with solid steel
rods that have the ends rounded to pin into the striker/keepers .. A
spring helps hold the handle and the pins (rods) in the closed position
.. ( The two rods lay in a slightly 'over center' and extended position
in the closed state ..)
Have attached a pic but the workings of course are inside door shells ..
Definitely cheap and simple ...
Hope u can get to idea from my attempt at a description ...
Graham
Ps Am born and breed farmer ..but just hobbly size now ..
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----- Original Message -----
From: tmclam@comcast.net
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:55 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Door Latch Summary?
I do not want to interupt the current stream of control system summary
information,but at the appropriate time could we look at the Door Latch
problem[loosing doors inflight].
Lyles device looks excellent but perhaps some" Aussie farmer" has
come up with a simple add on that is" Quite" good[and cheap].
Respectfully
Ted
Message 3
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| Subject: | KIS TR-1 Joggle Location |
8/25/2010
Hello Graham, You wrote: "But nor sure if my holes match the manual drawing
for ref measurement point ..?
What do u think ..?"
It is not the cowling mounting screw holes in the fuselage cowling mounting
lip that establish the location of station 32.
The intent is that during construction the aft side of the firewall is
supposed to be located at station 32.** But once the fuselage top is glued
on it is pretty difficult to have access to the aft side of the firewall for
measuring purposes so the best representative of that location is the joggle
where the molded fuselage skin external dimension begins to be reduced down
to provide for the aft edge of the engine cowling.
The holes referenced in the drawing Fs05a.bmp are witness holes and are
there to assist in installing the firewall during fuselage construction such
that the aft side of the firewall is at the joggle and therefore at station
32. Those witness holes, if actually made to assist in firewall location
during fuselage construction, get filled in during the finishing process.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
**PS: Station zero is out in space somewhere in front of the prop spinner.
This techique is used so that negative numbers are not needed in any of the
construction or weight and balance calculation numbers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Brighton" <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS TR-1 Joggle Location
> Thanks OC... for the manual page on the Joggle position ... But nor sure
> if
> my holes match the manual drawing for ref measurement point ..?
> What do u think ..?
>
> Graham
>
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>; <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:45 PM
> Subject: KIS-List: KIS TR-1 Joggle Location
>
>
>> 8/23/2010
>>
>> Hello Graham, You wrote: "but since thinking about it guess it is the
>> lip/edge that the cowl mounts onto ...yep .??"
>>
>> You are correct in your thinking. Please see the attached Fs05a.bmp file.
>>
>> 'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
>> to
>> gather and understand knowledge."
>>
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| Subject: | Plug and Trim Pictures |
8/25/2010
Hello Graham, Thanks for the pictures; You wrote:
1) "...tire valve plug..."
I have fiddled around with both the almost flat plastic hole plugs and the
slighty raised stamped metal plugs for the tire inflation holes in my wheel
pants.
I've had trouble prying the flat plastic hole plugs back out of the hole,
and trouble with the raised stamped metal plugs not fitting in flush with
the surface of the wheel pants. Also have had trouble coming up with the
largish size hole plugs needed. I like the idea of the rubber one -- I
wonder if I could find one large enough in white?
The best thing that I have found is the flat metal Tinnerman Inspection /
Patch Plate, part number A6914-1024-1 (we used to call them bullet hole
patches). They come primed with zinc chromate, so they can be painted to
match, have a mounting strap across the back, and a machine screw in the
center to hold them in place.
But Aircraft Spruce no longer shows them in their catalog and I can't even
find a picture of one on the internet anymore.
2) "And one of the Trim Servo ..."
First time I've seen the trim tab mechanism completely enclosed -- no horn
sticking out. A really clever guy this Duane Robinson -- I am sorry that he
was not part of our group when we were building. He could have saved us a
lot of time and work.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Brighton" <gbrighton@skymesh.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Elevator Trailing Edge
> OC...
> Just a Pic of the my tire valve plug ...similar the Tim's ...but
> rubber ....
> And one of the Trim Servo ...
>
> Graham
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