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Fri 10/08/10


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     1. 08:22 AM - Re: Landing gear on TR4 (Mike Pienaar)
     2. 11:39 AM - Re: Landing gear on TR4 (F. Tim Yoder)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:22:50 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear on TR4
    I am so embarrassed, I never took into account the fact that the nose gear will compress under load. So guess I will have to wait and see what it looks like when I have got the motor on. Will let you know what transpires and thanks again for the help Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: ALFRED ROSA To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Landing gear on TR4 If you can get the plane to sit level when fitted with the engine and loaded with half fuel and yourself, it would be fine. If it sits nose high in that configuration I would try and correct it. Reason is, the nose wheel will touch down sooner and the braking will be longer and less effective in the roll-out due to some lift from the wing's angle of attack. Also, rotation can occur too soon for the same reason. My kit was supplied with a GROVE landing gear by request and the gear makes the plane sit higher off the ground than a typical TR-4. I attached the nose gear higher to get a level stance with simulated engine weight. When fully loaded, it will sit a bit nose low which is what I prefer. Al On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote: Mike, Is that with or without the engine? The gear will compress some when the engine is mounted but I have noticed that several of the TR-4's seem to have a slight nose high attitude. Check out the various completions photos on my site along with some photos of the planes before and after engine mount. Bob Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> To: KISBUILDERS <kis-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 12:52:19 AM Subject: KIS-List: Landing gear on TR4 Hi All Started to mount the front landing gear to-day but it seems to result in a very high "nose up" attitude. Is there a spec for the angle that the fuselage should be while on the gear? Thanks Mike et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:39:23 AM PST US
    From: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear on TR4
    Mike, If you wanted to check it out now you could hang some sand bags, anvils, boat anchors, etc. that equal the weight of the engine you are going to use. That will let you see where you are going to end up. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pienaar To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:18 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Landing gear on TR4 I am so embarrassed, I never took into account the fact that the nose gear will compress under load. So guess I will have to wait and see what it looks like when I have got the motor on. Will let you know what transpires and thanks again for the help Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: ALFRED ROSA To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:44 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Landing gear on TR4 If you can get the plane to sit level when fitted with the engine and loaded with half fuel and yourself, it would be fine. If it sits nose high in that configuration I would try and correct it. Reason is, the nose wheel will touch down sooner and the braking will be longer and less effective in the roll-out due to some lift from the wing's angle of attack. Also, rotation can occur too soon for the same reason. My kit was supplied with a GROVE landing gear by request and the gear makes the plane sit higher off the ground than a typical TR-4. I attached the nose gear higher to get a level stance with simulated engine weight. When fully loaded, it will sit a bit nose low which is what I prefer. Al On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote: Mike, Is that with or without the engine? The gear will compress some when the engine is mounted but I have noticed that several of the TR-4's seem to have a slight nose high attitude. Check out the various completions photos on my site along with some photos of the planes before and after engine mount. Bob Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> To: KISBUILDERS <kis-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 12:52:19 AM Subject: KIS-List: Landing gear on TR4 Hi All Started to mount the front landing gear to-day but it seems to result in a very high "nose up" attitude. Is there a spec for the angle that the fuselage should be while on the gear? Thanks Mike et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/07/10 11:34:00




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