---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/22/11: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:36 AM - Re: Fw: Engines (Scott Stearns) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:09 AM PST US From: Scott Stearns Subject: Re: Fw: KIS-List: Engines I thought there was a simple fix for the limp home mode problem.- - I'm using P-mags for ignition which have spark advance, but it's not as goo d as you can do with a-knock sensor and digital fuel injection. - With light winds and fully cleaned up my plane just might be able to do mak e it to Hawaii.- After-you make Hawaii then-getting down to Australia is "easy".- Reminds me of the book called The Sky Beyond by an Australia n named Gordon Taylor.- It's about the flying in Australia and the south pacific in the 20s and 30s.- Imagine landing a Catalina on the lagoon in Bora Bora in the 1930s.- Great book.- - Scott --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Graham Brighton wrote: From: Graham Brighton Subject: Fw: KIS-List: Engines - - Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engines G'Day back Scott, ------------------------- -------- And i reckon u could just about make it to Austral ia with all that fuel .... of course u'd have to 'super-size' .er ..that Bo ttle ...!! I looked at my Subaru engine weights again ... 2.5 sti engine running non t urbo .. ( turbo 270 hp ...-but looking for derated at close-to 200 hp ) - Engine long block-- -80kg Engine- exhaust x2--- 4kg Alternator 70amp------ 5kg Engine mounts-----------3kg Intake/coil/leads/TB--- 7kg Redrive- 1:1.82 ratio 26kg - Total ..........---------------- 125kg- ( 275 lbs - Belly Scoop Radiator ...-- ?kg Plumbing ........................-- ?kg Water- coolant...................?kg - So pretty line ball with the IO 360 by the looks ..?! - Cost well ..... Auto conversions can cost anything- ...cost Larry his pla ne ... sob ...cost me a forced landing and some busted parts ... has cost o thers much more hey ..?--- BUT .... If u find the rite engine builder (finally i think i have ) who specializes in only my engine- (subaru) ty pe and is fair dinkum ( not blowing smoke) ... well not much money-... I' v managed to track down bout the best subaru man in Melbourne ...$ 2-3 K fo r engine preparation (blue printing crank clearances,forged pistons ,line b oring ,s/s x-rayed valves , etc etc .. i supplied the block and-core head s and Delta cams .. His short block (factory new) price- $1600 .. ( bugge r i already paid $2000 for the same factory block grr ..!?) - Haven't settled on engine management ... has to be not subaru though (limp mode etc etc ..)- The engine builder is looking at SDS and Tracy Cook etc ... Running knock sensors allows timing rite up to Peck Power .. and without it the engine-is just missing out on available power ...! - Redrives ... are a real headache i think .... Harmonics vary with each indi vidual engine type combo ... so danger there ... - Electric's ...well i didn't build the plane so there is gaps in my knowledg e how some things are set up .. i have two 17 amp hr (34 amp hrs)Batteries and two Buss's ..engine runs on either or both !!- .. and will run on the Alternator alone ..!!!-- ...not as good as running Mags ...but ur Mag -timing is set off for detonation safety ...- so loosing power hey !! - Anyway ...blowed if i know ... i specially DON'T like getting milked by the certified engine so and so's ...!!! - Engine guy thinks i'm a little-conservative ... ! but a turbo is a possib ility in the future ..far off though -...( car turbo rotors are not suita ble for aero use though ) - So ..as Bill says ...not for everybody ..!! - -Cheers - Graham - Ps Have friends coming to CA in 3 wks time ..wish it was me ..sob ..! - .. - - - .. - - ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Stearns Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:26 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engines Hi Graham, - I don't mind using a relief bottle.- Also going multiple legs without ref ueling can be useful.- For instance I was flying down in the Bahamas over the summer and it would have saved a good amount of money to have been abl e to fill up with $4 gallon gas in the US and not have to buy the $6+/gallo n gas in the Bahamas.- - Basically I can do two 3 hour legs and land with full main tanks (40 gallon s), but I would have to do it solo.- For instance I'll flying from Califo rnia to Florida at some point.- Right now there are some airports in texa s that are selling 100LL for $3.50/gallon.- I could fly from Texas to Flo rida and half way back with the cheap gas even if I wanted to-stop a coup le times. - Good luck with the subaru engine. What kind of power are you expecting and at what cost?- What kind of electical system are you running to have back up power for the engine computer? - Scott - - --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Graham Brighton wrote: From: Graham Brighton Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engines Scott, ------------ My Internet has been interrupted latel y (flooding up north) ..so couldn't get back-straight away ..- Good thi nking on being able to-hold HP up high ..have to wonder about 'watering t he horse' -though with all that fuel endurance .... My 'endurance'- due bladder -..!!! is only a couple of hrs though ..!!! - On my engine build ... well the engine is in some ways the easy part and i do like water for head cooling etc -...but the Redrive-with an auto con version is-much more problematic .. !!! -Should come in under 300lbs .. . will re total the weights this week .. - Hey ..Bill Schertz ...how bout chiming in with some back up with ur Cruiser .... it has a Rotary rite ..or ..or ..? - Cheers - Graham (TR1 #80) - - - - - =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.