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1. 12:15 AM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (Scott Stearns)
2. 07:05 AM - TR-4 sales (ALFRED ROSA)
3. 07:55 AM - Re: TR-4 sales (ted)
4. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (ted)
5. 10:14 AM - Re: TR-4 sales (Scott Stearns)
6. 12:41 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (Robert Reed)
7. 01:10 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (ALFRED ROSA)
8. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (Larry David)
9. 03:04 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (Mark Kettering)
10. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (ted)
11. 05:01 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (Galin Hernandez)
12. 05:24 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (ALFRED ROSA)
13. 06:50 PM - Re: TR-4 sales (Robert Reed)
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 Holiday trip |
Do you have-the TR4 project-listed in trade a plane?- I haven't seen
it there.- Also it might be worth putting on ebay and seeing what happens
.
-
I'd think about selling the engine separately.- The engine has a limited
shelf life.- Also it should be pretty easy to sell since it's a very popu
lar engine.- How long has it been since the engine was preserved?
-
Scott
-
-
-
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
Thanks John. I am trying to sell my tr4 and cannot get $47,00.00 with a
lycoming XP360 all balanced engine with a aerosance fadec system.The kit is
about 60% finished.I guess there is not a market for these airplanes
anymore.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> I got $106k for it.
>
> John
>
>
>> From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:15:51 -0600
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
>> JOHN, HOW MUCH DID YOU SELL YOUR TR4 CARDINAL FOR?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
>
>>>
>>> Hi Alfred,
>>>
>>> I was interested to hear that you are planning a trip from London to
>>> Cape
>>> Town and back. Are you going to be partaking in the Alex Henshaw
>>> challenge?
>>> I am based in Johannesburg, SA and a good friend of mine, Chalkie
>>> Stobbart,
>>> broke Alex's original record in May 2009. This was subsequently beaten
>>> last
>>> year by Steve Noujaim. Another attempt was also made by Tony Smith last
>>> year, but this ended unsuccessfully in Nambia.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hearing more about your planned trip.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> John Petrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: BlueSkyFlier <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:56:06 -0800
>>>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>>>
>>>> <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Galin,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you had fun. Count your lucky stars to have a wife that
>>>> enjoys
>>>> flying too :o)
>>>>
>>>> I have a trip from London to Cape Town and back in the oven. Hope to
>>>> get
>>>> that
>>>> done this year or next.- Reading your travel log is useful and I cat
ch
>>>> tips
>>>> where I can for my check lists.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>- - - - - - Alfred (new owner of KIS TR-1 #30)
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> _________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330561#330561
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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Hi Ted, Bob,
You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm planning to
complete mine because I still love building it,
but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me out of
a cowling.
Al
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CAN YOU PUT PLASTIC WRAP AND PEALPLY OVER AN EXISTING COWLING AND MAkE
ANOTHE ONE OUT OF CARBON FIBER OR FIBER GLASS?
----- Original Message -----
From: ALFRED ROSA
To: kisbuilders
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
Hi Ted, Bob,
You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm
planning to complete mine because I still love building it,
but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me
out of a cowling.
Al
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 Holiday trip |
The engine was preserved as soon as I received it.It is full of
preservitive and I spin the engine every two weeks to keep the engine
.I had it listed on ebay and was offeredlubricated.----- Original
Message -----
From: Scott Stearns
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
Do you have the TR4 project listed in trade a plane? I haven't
seen it there. Also it might be worth putting on ebay and seeing what
happens.
I'd think about selling the engine separately. The engine has a
limited shelf life. Also it should be pretty easy to sell since it's a
very popular engine. How long has it been since the engine was
preserved?
Scott
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:22 PM
Thanks John. I am trying to sell my tr4 and cannot get
$47,00.00 with a
lycoming XP360 all balanced engine with a aerosance fadec
system.The kit is
about 60% finished.I guess there is not a market for these
airplanes
anymore.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
<jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> I got $106k for it.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>> From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:15:51 -0600
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
>> JOHN, HOW MUCH DID YOU SELL YOUR TR4 CARDINAL FOR?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
<jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>>>
>>> Hi Alfred,
>>>
>>> I was interested to hear that you are planning a trip from
London to
>>> Cape
>>> Town and back. Are you going to be partaking in the Alex
Henshaw
>>> challenge?
>>> I am based in Johannesburg, SA and a good friend of mine,
Chalkie
>>> Stobbart,
>>> broke Alex's original record in May 2009. This was
subsequently beaten
>>> last
>>> year by Steve Noujaim. Another attempt was also made by
Tony Smith last
>>> year, but this ended unsuccessfully in Nambia.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hearing more about your planned trip.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> John Petrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: BlueSkyFlier <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:56:06 -0800
>>>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>>>
>>>> <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Galin,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you had fun. Count your lucky stars to have a
wife that
>>>> enjoys
>>>> flying too :o)
>>>>
>>>> I have a trip from London to Cape Town and back in the
oven. Hope to
>>>> get
>>>> that
>>>> done this year or next. Reading your travel log is
useful and I catch
>>>> tips
>>>> where I can for my check lists.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alfred (new owner of KIS TR-1 #30)
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> _________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330561#330561
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Another option is to make your own cowl.- Wrap the engine really well in
plastic then build up a base of pour foam and start carving.- I think it
would go pretty fast once you got going.- That's how the factory did it f
rom what I saw.- I'd bodywork the part before you take it off the foam.
-
-
Scott
--- On Mon, 2/14/11, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
Subject: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
Hi Ted, Bob,
You hit the nail on the head. -Not many are interested in buying an incom
plete airplane. -If you finish and get-
a registration number for it, -it's a whole another story. -I'm plannin
g to complete mine because I still love building it,
but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. -Pulsar screwed me out
of a cowling.
Al
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You should be able to make a mold for the cowl that way but just trying to
=0Acreate one by application over an existing cowling-would result in a l
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ND MAkE ANOTHE =0AONE OUT OF CARBON FIBER OR FIBER GLASS?=0A----- Original
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*There is no engine to build up around. A plaster female mould can be made
over an existing cowling and then layups applied inside. It would be the
same size as original. Anyone feel like pouring plaster over their cowling?
*
*
*
*Al*
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Another option is to make your own cowl. Wrap the engine really well in
> plastic then build up a base of pour foam and start carving. I think it
> would go pretty fast once you got going. That's how the factory did it from
> what I saw. I'd bodywork the part before you take it off the foam.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
> Subject: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
> To: "kisbuilders" <kis-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:58 AM
>
> Hi Ted, Bob,
>
>
> You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
> incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
> a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm planning to
> complete mine because I still love building it,
> but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me out
> of a cowling.
>
> Al
>
> *
>
> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com
> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 Holiday trip |
Ted, Have you tried Barnstormers: http://www.barnstormers.com/
I had good luck with them. A fellow at our chapter has bought and sold
several planes/projects with them.
Larry
On 2/13/2011 7:59 AM, ted wrote:
> The engine was preserved as soon as I received it.It is full of
> preservitiveand I spin the engine every two weeks to keep the engine
> .I had it listed on ebay and was offeredlubricated.----- Original
> Message -----
>
> *From:* Scott Stearns <mailto:sstearns2@yahoo.com>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com <mailto:kis-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2011 1:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>
> Do you have the TR4 project listed in trade a plane? I haven't
> seen it there. Also it might be worth putting on ebay and seeing
> what happens.
> I'd think about selling the engine separately. The engine has a
> limited shelf life. Also it should be pretty easy to sell since
> it's a very popular engine. How long has it been since the engine
> was preserved?
> Scott
> --- On *Fri, 2/11/11, ted /<teds532@wk.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:22 PM
>
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=teds532@wk.net>>
>
> Thanks John. I am trying to sell my tr4 and cannot get
> $47,00.00 with a
> lycoming XP360 all balanced engine with a aerosance fadec
> system.The kit is
> about 60% finished.I guess there is not a market for these
> airplanes
> anymore.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>>
> To: <kis-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>
>
> <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>>
> >
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> > I got $106k for it.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: ted <teds532@wk.net
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=teds532@wk.net>>
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> >> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:15:51 -0600
> >> To: <kis-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
> >>
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=teds532@wk.net>>
> >>
> >> JOHN, HOW MUCH DID YOU SELL YOUR TR4 CARDINAL FOR?
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>>
> >> To: <kis-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
> >>
> >>
> <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Alfred,
> >>>
> >>> I was interested to hear that you are planning a trip from
> London to
> >>> Cape
> >>> Town and back. Are you going to be partaking in the Alex
> Henshaw
> >>> challenge?
> >>> I am based in Johannesburg, SA and a good friend of mine,
> Chalkie
> >>> Stobbart,
> >>> broke Alex's original record in May 2009. This was
> subsequently beaten
> >>> last
> >>> year by Steve Noujaim. Another attempt was also made by
> Tony Smith last
> >>> year, but this ended unsuccessfully in Nambia.
> >>>
> >>> Look forward to hearing more about your planned trip.
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>> John Petrie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: BlueSkyFlier <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>>
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:56:06 -0800
> >>>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kis-list@matronics.com>>
> >>>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
> >>>>
> >>>> <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com
> <http://us.mc324.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Galin,
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks like you had fun. Count your lucky stars to have a
> wife that
> >>>> enjoys
> >>>> flying too :o)
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a trip from London to Cape Town and back in the
> oven. Hope to
> >>>> get
> >>>> that
> >>>> done this year or next. Reading your travel log is
> useful and I catch
> >>>> tips
> >>>> where I can for my check lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Alfred (new owner of KIS TR-1 #30)
> >>>>
> >>>> --------
> >>>> _________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330561#330561
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >http://www.matronics.com/Nav - MATRONICS WEB
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> target=_blank>http://www.matr====================
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Hi Al,
If you really can not find a cowling let me know. I have TR4 cowls for the 6 cylinder
Continental and 4 cylinder Lycoming in carbon fiber. At some point I
would like to sell one depending on what engine I will use. I am planing on using
a 6 cylinder Lycoming so I think I will be selling the 4 cyl Lycoming cowling
at some time.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: ALFRED ROSA
Sent: Feb 14, 2011 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
*There is no engine to build up around. A plaster female mould can be made
over an existing cowling and then layups applied inside. It would be the
same size as original. Anyone feel like pouring plaster over their cowling?
*
*
*
*Al*
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott Stearns wrote:
> Another option is to make your own cowl. Wrap the engine really well in
> plastic then build up a base of pour foam and start carving. I think it
> would go pretty fast once you got going. That's how the factory did it from
> what I saw. I'd bodywork the part before you take it off the foam.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, ALFRED ROSA * wrote:
>
>
> From: ALFRED ROSA
> Subject: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
> To: "kisbuilders"
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:58 AM
>
> Hi Ted, Bob,
>
>
> You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
> incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
> a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm planning to
> complete mine because I still love building it,
> but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me out
> of a cowling.
>
> Al
>
> *
>
> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
> et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com
> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> *
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 Holiday trip |
I tried Barnstormers with a full ad three times.Some one tried to buy it
for $35,000. with a $30,000. engine.I do not want to give it away.I am
not concerned about selling .I do not need the money now.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry David
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
Ted, Have you tried Barnstormers: http://www.barnstormers.com/
I had good luck with them. A fellow at our chapter has bought and
sold several planes/projects with them.
Larry
On 2/13/2011 7:59 AM, ted wrote:
The engine was preserved as soon as I received it.It is full of
preservitive and I spin the engine every two weeks to keep the engine
.I had it listed on ebay and was offeredlubricated.----- Original
Message -----
From: Scott Stearns
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
Do you have the TR4 project listed in trade a plane? I
haven't seen it there. Also it might be worth putting on ebay and
seeing what happens.
I'd think about selling the engine separately. The engine
has a limited shelf life. Also it should be pretty easy to sell since
it's a very popular engine. How long has it been since the engine was
preserved?
Scott
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:22 PM
Thanks John. I am trying to sell my tr4 and cannot get
$47,00.00 with a
lycoming XP360 all balanced engine with a aerosance fadec
system.The kit is
about 60% finished.I guess there is not a market for these
airplanes
anymore.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
<jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> I got $106k for it.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>> From: ted <teds532@wk.net>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:15:51 -0600
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
>> JOHN, HOW MUCH DID YOU SELL YOUR TR4 CARDINAL FOR?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Petrie" <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>
>>
<jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
>>>
>>> Hi Alfred,
>>>
>>> I was interested to hear that you are planning a trip
from London to
>>> Cape
>>> Town and back. Are you going to be partaking in the
Alex Henshaw
>>> challenge?
>>> I am based in Johannesburg, SA and a good friend of
mine, Chalkie
>>> Stobbart,
>>> broke Alex's original record in May 2009. This was
subsequently beaten
>>> last
>>> year by Steve Noujaim. Another attempt was also made
by Tony Smith last
>>> year, but this ended unsuccessfully in Nambia.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hearing more about your planned trip.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> John Petrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: BlueSkyFlier <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:56:06 -0800
>>>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip
>>>>
>>>> <bleuskyfly@teledynamix.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Galin,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like you had fun. Count your lucky stars to
have a wife that
>>>> enjoys
>>>> flying too :o)
>>>>
>>>> I have a trip from London to Cape Town and back in
the oven. Hope to
>>>> get
>>>> that
>>>> done this year or next. Reading your travel log is
useful and I catch
>>>> tips
>>>> where I can for my check lists.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alfred (new owner of KIS TR-1 #30)
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> _________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330561#330561
>>>>
>>>>
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Use the inside of an existing cowl instead of the outside of the cowl to
make the poured foam mold. This makes the inside part of the cowl correct.
Then build up with fiberglass layers until the outside of the cowl is the
correct size. Finally, sand to perfection. BUT the best way is when the
engine is hung, then do the plastic covered / foam carving method already
mentioned. This is exactly how I saw the factory do it on several occasions.
Galin
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:
> You should be able to make a mold for the cowl that way but just trying
> to create one by application over an existing cowling would result in a
> larger cowling than the original.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* ted <teds532@wk.net>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sun, February 13, 2011 9:57:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
>
> CAN YOU PUT PLASTIC WRAP AND PEALPLY OVER AN EXISTING COWLING AND MAkE
> ANOTHE ONE OUT OF CARBON FIBER OR FIBER GLASS?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
> *To:* kisbuilders <kis-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2011 8:58 AM
> *Subject:* KIS-List: TR-4 sales
>
> Hi Ted, Bob,
>
>
> You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
> incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
> a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm planning to
> complete mine because I still love building it,
> but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me out
> of a cowling.
>
> Al
>
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Mark,
The 4 cyl. lycoming cowling would be just the ticket if it's not too
expensive. Do not need it right not but let me know when you're ready.
Al
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Kettering <mantafs@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> Hi Al,
>
> If you really can not find a cowling let me know. I have TR4 cowls for the
> 6 cylinder Continental and 4 cylinder Lycoming in carbon fiber. At some
> point I would like to sell one depending on what engine I will use. I am
> planing on using a 6 cylinder Lycoming so I think I will be selling the 4
> cyl Lycoming cowling at some time.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: ALFRED ROSA
>
> Sent: Feb 14, 2011 4:08 PM
>
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
>
>
> *There is no engine to build up around. A plaster female mould can be made
> over an existing cowling and then layups applied inside. It would be the
> same size as original. Anyone feel like pouring plaster over their
> cowling?
> *
> *
> *
> *Al*
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott Stearns wrote:
>
> > Another option is to make your own cowl. Wrap the engine really well in
> > plastic then build up a base of pour foam and start carving. I think it
> > would go pretty fast once you got going. That's how the factory did it
> from
> > what I saw. I'd bodywork the part before you take it off the foam.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, ALFRED ROSA * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: ALFRED ROSA
> > Subject: KIS-List: TR-4 sales
> > To: "kisbuilders"
> > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:58 AM
> >
> > Hi Ted, Bob,
> >
> >
> > You hit the nail on the head. Not many are interested in buying an
> > incomplete airplane. If you finish and get
> > a registration number for it, it's a whole another story. I'm planning
> to
> > complete mine because I still love building it,
> > but will probably be selling it sans firewall forward and avionics.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a cowling for it. Pulsar screwed me out
> > of a cowling.
> >
> > Al
> >
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This method will work great for a one off production but be careful to set
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