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1. 07:42 AM - DUST COVER (ted)
2. 08:24 AM - Re: DUST COVER (ALFRED ROSA)
3. 09:11 AM - Re: [QUAR] Re: DUST COVER (Conners, Jerry L)
4. 09:40 AM - Re: DUST COVER (Flyinisfun@aol.com)
5. 09:54 AM - Re: [QUAR] Re: DUST COVER and insturment panels (Scott Stearns)
6. 10:42 AM - Re: [QUAR] Re: DUST COVER and insturment panels (ALFRED ROSA)
7. 04:48 PM - Re: DUST COVER (Robert Reed)
8. 05:35 PM - Re: DUST COVER (ted)
9. 06:21 PM - Re: DUST COVER (Mike Pienaar)
10. 06:53 PM - Re: DUST COVER (ted)
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I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN NEEDED.CUT
TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO LAYERS OF
FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE CONTROL
PANEL AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE UNTILL
DRY.ADDED 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL PANEL.
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THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I think I will
cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do layups using the
metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with 1/4" soft foam and
cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the interior.
Al
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
> I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN NEEDED.CUT
> TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO LAYERS OF
> FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE CONTROL PANEL
> AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE UNTILL DRY.ADDED
> 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL PANEL.
>
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> *
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And something easily removable...having work access to 'behind the
panel' from the 'top' has been important during the last 10 years flying
N94K.
Jer
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
Importance: Low
THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I think I
will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do layups
using the metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with 1/4" soft
foam and cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the interior.
Al
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN NEEDED.CUT
TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO LAYERS OF
FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE CONTROL
PANEL AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE UNTILL
DRY.ADDED 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL PANEL.
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To make my glare shield I first taped and propped 1/4" foam across the top
flat area so I would have support for cutting and fitting heavy
construction paper that I bought at Staples. I cut and fit the paper to the rough
size, sometimes cutting and taping it together for getting a closer actual
fit. When this was done I laid up two layers of glass on the table that was
large enough that I could cut out the pattern after the layers had
hardened. I approximate cut this and re-fit it in the actual location. It was
limber enough that the curved edges fit around the radius of the sides. I
mistakenly over cut this piece when I scribed and cut it until it finally
fit, which meant I had to make another lay up. Now before I fit this piece I
cut 3/4" blue foam triangle pieces on the table say and fit them in place
on what would be the underside of the glare shield, spaced about ever 6"
running full length front to back. I then glassed them in place with two
layers of 2" wide glass cloth. Be sure and give at least 1 inch clearance
front and back so the triangle pieces don't hit the instrument panel or the
rear mounting, how ever you support the rear edge.
Having done all this on the table, now remove the supporting foam etc.
that was used to make the paper pattern and begin to scribe and make the final
fit of the actual glare shield. The ribs will support the open areas and
give rigidity so you can lay almost anything on it when finished and it
won't sag. The side curved radius can be fit by using a heat gun, getting the
area hot enough so it will bend. When it cools it will stay in that
configuration. I used Velcro along the lower edge of the instrument panel to
hold it in tight and two plate nuts on top of the instrument panel to hold it
in place. I let my glare shield extend forward of the instrument panel
about 1 1/2" and put the rubber edge strip on for protection. I got some
black material and using spray contact cement covered the top.
Jesse Wright
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Subject: | Re: DUST COVER and insturment panels |
The best thing I did on my airplane was to take Mark's advise from a long t
ime ago and make my panel so it can rotate down and be easily removable.=C2
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=C2-
I have bellcrank bearings on the ends of the panel and all the tubes and wi
res either have enough excess or exit the panel on the hingeline.=C2- I c
an take out two screws and a nut and the whole panel folds down and rests o
n the throttle quadrent.=C2- Also, all the wires go to cannon plugs on a
plate behind the panel.=C2- I can remove or install=C2-the whole panel
in about 20 minutes.=C2-
=C2-
There are pictures on Bob's site.=C2- It's really a must do modification
looking back at what I've gone through in my flight testing.
=C2-
Scott
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us> wrote:
From: Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us>
Subject: RE: [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
And something easily removablehaving work access to =98behin
d the panel=99 from the =98top=99 has been important duri
ng the last 10 years flying N94K.
=C2-
Jer
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
Importance: Low
=C2-
THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. =C2-I think
I will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do layups usin
g the metal as a mould. =C2-Then surface the whole thing with 1/4" soft f
oam and cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the interior.
=C2-
Al
=C2-
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN NEEDED.CUT TO
SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO LAYERS OF FIBERGLA
SS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE CONTROL PANEL AND US
ED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE UNTILL DRY.ADDED 1/4 IN
CH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL PANEL. =C2- =C2-et="_bla
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Subject: | Re: DUST COVER and insturment panels |
*My panel is fairly easy to remove but I have to first remove the yokes
since they pass through the panel. I have a rubber vibration isolator at
each of 5 mounting points holding the panel to the fuselage so I have to
remove 5 nuts and 2 yokes to pull away the instrument panel. About a half
hour job. *
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote
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> The best thing I did on my airplane was to take Mark's advise from a long
> time ago and make my panel so it can rotate down and be easily removable.
>
> I have bellcrank bearings on the ends of the panel and all the tubes and
> wires either have enough excess or exit the panel on the hingeline. I ca
n
> take out two screws and a nut and the whole panel folds down and rests on
> the throttle quadrent. Also, all the wires go to cannon plugs on a plate
> behind the panel. I can remove or install the whole panel in about 20
> minutes.
>
> There are pictures on Bob's site. It's really a must do modification
> looking back at what I've gone through in my flight testing.
>
> Scott
>
> --- On *Thu, 2/17/11, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us>* wrote:
>
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> From: Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us>
> Subject: RE: [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 9:09 AM
>
> And something easily removable=85having work access to =91behind the pan
el=92
> from the =91top=92 has been important during the last 10 years flying N94
K.
>
>
> Jer
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> *From:* owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *ALFRED ROSA
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:18 AM
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* [QUAR] Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
> *Importance:* Low
>
>
> THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I think I
> will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do layups usin
g
> the metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with 1/4" soft foam a
nd
> cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the interior.
>
>
> Al
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> I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN NEEDED.CUT
TO
> SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO LAYERS OF
> FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE CONTROL PA
NEL
> AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE UNTILL DRY.ADDE
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Al,=0A=0AYou might find it easier to use a stiff wire mesh instead of the s
heet metal.- =0AIt is much easier to mold and shape-the mesh than the s
heet metal.- You can also =0Aeasily cut slits into it and then tie parts
back together.- Once you have the =0Adesired shape, cover with tape and t
hat sticky Saran wrap.- You can then layup =0Aover that.=0A=0ABob Reed=0A
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There's many ways to skin this cat. -I think I will cut =0Aone out of she
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THAT IS WHY I USED 1/4 HARDWARE CLOTH FOR THIS AND FOR THE ARM REST THAT
I MADE TO COVER THE DOOR LOCKS AND HEAT AND AIR VENTS FOR THE BACK
SEAT.WHEN THE ITEMS WERE FINISHED I REMOVED THE HARDWARE CLOTH.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
Al,
You might find it easier to use a stiff wire mesh instead of the sheet
metal. It is much easier to mold and shape the mesh than the sheet
metal. You can also easily cut slits into it and then tie parts back
together. Once you have the desired shape, cover with tape and that
sticky Saran wrap. You can then layup over that.
Bob Reed
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From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 10:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I think
I will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do layups
using the metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with 1/4" soft
foam and cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the interior.
Al
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN
NEEDED.CUT TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO
LAYERS OF FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE
CONTROL PANEL AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE
UNTILL DRY.ADDED 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL
PANEL.
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What is 1/4 HARDWARE CLOTH ?
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: ted
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
THAT IS WHY I USED 1/4 HARDWARE CLOTH FOR THIS AND FOR THE ARM REST
THAT I MADE TO COVER THE DOOR LOCKS AND HEAT AND AIR VENTS FOR THE BACK
SEAT.WHEN THE ITEMS WERE FINISHED I REMOVED THE HARDWARE CLOTH.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
Al,
You might find it easier to use a stiff wire mesh instead of the
sheet metal. It is much easier to mold and shape the mesh than the
sheet metal. You can also easily cut slits into it and then tie parts
back together. Once you have the desired shape, cover with tape and
that sticky Saran wrap. You can then layup over that.
Bob Reed
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From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 10:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I
think I will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do
layups using the metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with
1/4" soft foam and cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the
interior.
Al
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN
NEEDED.CUT TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO
LAYERS OF FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE
CONTROL PANEL AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE
UNTILL DRY.ADDED 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL
PANEL.
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IT IS WIRE METAL WITH 1/4 INCH SQUARES IN IT.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Pienaar
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
What is 1/4 HARDWARE CLOTH ?
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: ted
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
THAT IS WHY I USED 1/4 HARDWARE CLOTH FOR THIS AND FOR THE ARM REST
THAT I MADE TO COVER THE DOOR LOCKS AND HEAT AND AIR VENTS FOR THE BACK
SEAT.WHEN THE ITEMS WERE FINISHED I REMOVED THE HARDWARE CLOTH.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
Al,
You might find it easier to use a stiff wire mesh instead of the
sheet metal. It is much easier to mold and shape the mesh than the
sheet metal. You can also easily cut slits into it and then tie parts
back together. Once you have the desired shape, cover with tape and
that sticky Saran wrap. You can then layup over that.
Bob Reed
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From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 10:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: DUST COVER
THANKS ALL FOR THE TIPS. There's many ways to skin this cat. I
think I will cut one out of sheet metal and bend it to shape. then do
layups using the metal as a mould. Then surface the whole thing with
1/4" soft foam and cover with beige vinyl that I'm using for the
interior.
Al
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM, ted <teds532@wk.net> wrote:
I MADE MY DUST COVER WITH 1/4 INCH HARDWARE CLOTH LARGER THEN
NEEDED.CUT TO SIZE LATER,COVERED WITH DUCT TAPE THEN WITH PEELPLY,TWO
LAYERS OF FIBERGLASS,ONE LAYER OF CARBON FIBER THEN PUT IT ON TOP OF THE
CONTROL PANEL AND USED CLEECO CLIPS AND WOOD BRACES TO HOLD IT IN PLACE
UNTILL DRY.ADDED 1/4 INCH FOAM .ADDED EXTRA FOAM ON EDGE AT CONTROL
PANEL.
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