---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/20/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Maneuvering Speed SAIB (F. Tim Yoder) 2. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (John Petrie) 3. 11:46 PM - Re: Re: 2010 Holiday trip (Scott Stearns) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:13 PM PST US From: "F. Tim Yoder" Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Maneuvering Speed SAIB Hi Jesse, What was your RPM at 180 mph? I think vne is 212 mph, I haven't looked at that no. on the airspeed in a while, so correct me if that isn't right. What altitude were you with the 180 mph indicated? My max IAS is 195 mph @ 2800 rpm @ 3000' msl, my airport is 1400'. I remember you are out of Denver, so I guessing you were a bit higher. I took a demo ride with Rich at Merced in 93 and he did a low pass down the runway indicating 195/200 mph. I don't know how accurate his indicator was. ----- Original Message ----- From: Flyinisfun@aol.com To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Maneuvering Speed SAIB Man do I ever know about maneuvering speed. I have the 0-320 Lyc. in my two place and those little short wings just don't ride the bumps very well. I have hit rough air and cracked my head on the ceiling several times before I could get it slowed down. I have tested my wings several times trying to run my engine wide open and couldn't shut it down fast enough. I can indicate 180 mph full throttle and I believe that is about the limit I want to see. Is anybody else consisently doing more? Jesse Agreed Sott. All moment arms come into play - that's why weight distribution (weight as a force) is so important. With the big 360 up front you know about that. Bottom line - slow down when the air gets turbulent, and then slow down even more if airframe weight distribution is not as good as it could be. Regards, Alfred ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip From: John Petrie Hi Alfred, Sounds like it should be a great trip - keep us posted when you get going. I am looking for a partially completed Glasair III or a Lancair 360 as my next project. Maybe I should look at the one in Windhoek :)) Regards, John > From: BlueSkyFlier > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:55:12 -0800 > To: > Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip > > > Hi John (Petrie) > > A belted answer to your question regarding the Henshaw challenge ... > > I know all about it and followed the last two attempts closely. Not my idea of > enjoyable (or safe) flying - as the latest attempt illustrated. I believe the > Glassair is still sitting in Windhoek (which happens to be my home town :o)) > > My KIS has only 130hp at ground level, so not much of a chance to compete for > the record anyway. I'll just make my way down to Cape Town at my leisure. If I > add extra fuel tanks I can do 1000nm at a stretch. That will make for five > stops for the plane - maybe more for me :o). > > Not yet made up my mind as to whether adding the extra tanks is worth the > trouble. Depends on how easy or difficult I find it to find Avgas when > arranging with FBOs for stopovers. > > Have you decided on what your next plane will be after selling the KIS? > > Regards, > Alfred > > -------- > _________________________________________ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331442#331442 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:14 PM PST US From: Scott Stearns Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip Make sure you sit in a lancair 360 before you buy a project.- I've heard they are tiny inside. - Scott --- On Sun, 2/20/11, John Petrie wrote: From: John Petrie Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip Hi Alfred, Sounds like it should be a great trip - keep us posted when you get going. I am looking for a partially completed Glasair III or a Lancair 360 as my next project. Maybe I should look at the one in Windhoek :)) Regards, John > From: BlueSkyFlier > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:55:12 -0800 > To: > Subject: KIS-List: Re: 2010 Holiday trip > m> > > Hi John (Petrie) > > A belted answer to your question regarding the Henshaw challenge ... > > I know all about it and followed the last two attempts closely. Not my id ea of > enjoyable (or safe) flying - as the latest attempt illustrated. I believe the > Glassair is still sitting in Windhoek (which happens to be my home town : o)) > > My KIS has only 130hp at ground level, so not much of a chance to compete for > the record anyway. I'll just make my way down to Cape Town at my leisure. If I > add extra fuel tanks I can do 1000nm at a stretch. That will make for fiv e > stops for the plane -- maybe more for me :o). > > Not yet made up my mind as to whether adding the extra tanks is worth the > trouble. Depends on how easy or difficult I find it to find Avgas when > arranging with FBOs for stopovers. > > Have you decided on what your next plane will be after selling the KIS? > > Regards, >- - - - - ---Alfred > > -------- > _________________________________________ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331442#331442 > > > > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.