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1. 09:49 AM - Sun N Fun (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
2. 11:13 AM - Re: sun N what (Richard Trickel)
3. 11:14 AM - Sun-N-Fun (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
4. 01:01 PM - Metal prop? (Jason Hills)
5. 02:24 PM - Re: Metal prop? (F. Tim Yoder)
6. 03:04 PM - Re: Metal prop? (Jason Hills)
7. 03:43 PM - Re: Sun N Fun (Galin Hernandez)
8. 03:53 PM - Re: Metal prop? (Scott Stearns)
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Well I survived Sun'n Fun ,
living in Europe this was my first opportunity to have a holiday in USA
during one of the two big airshows: Yippee !!!!!! , arriving in Florida on
Monday to torrential rain , i decided not to go on the Tuesday as it
"might be a bit Muddy ",
Wednesday , the weather channel was advising all but essential travel
since a major storm was sweeping across central Florida , so i didn't go
again , thinking it could only get better . Thursday I woke to driving rain
again , and a forecast of more storms including tornado warnings, i
thought they must have been joking as this was still March so decided
again to stay put , ( just as well when a tornado hit the field).
Friday morning was blue skies , so into the car , "Yippee" finally off to
Sun n Fun , i then spent 3.5 hours in a traffic jam trying to get into
the mud carparks. Finally got in to the show ground at 14:30 just as the
airshow was starting , which was nice but nothing special ( particularly
since it consisted mainly all day of the Blue Angels doing practice routines
, in preparation for their Saturday show ) ,
Once inside with the exception of seeing all the carnage from the previous
day, (which was breaking my heart seeing the owners particularly
homebuilders trying to salvage what they could ) there were just a handful
of planes in the homebuilt parking area , and having spent too much time
trying to photograph either the blues or the raptor , only managed a quick
visit to two of the hangers , before it all closed at 5:00p
Saturday i left for Europe again ( "Delta" lost my Luggage , but they
have now found it in Detroit ?) ,
so my dream vacation was not a success,
Question : what is the weather in Oshkosh normally like , before I book my
tickets
Keith
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Yep this was the trip from hell.- Sorry you hit it bad this year.- I ha
ve been there a bunch of times and normally it is great.- Oshkosh can be
the same.- I have seen it 100 degrees and very humid to storms and then f
reezing.- Just got to be prepared.- You can learn to see planes in the
rain. : )
Rich
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Keith.Miller@esa.int <Keith.Miller@esa.int> wrote:
From: Keith.Miller@esa.int <Keith.Miller@esa.int>
Subject: KIS-List: Sun N Fun
Well I survived Sun'n Fun ,
living in Europe this- was my first opportunity to have a holiday in USA
during one of the two big- airshows: Yippee !!!!!! , arriving in- Flori
da on
Monday to torrential- rain- , i- decided- not to go on the Tuesday
- as it
"might be a bit Muddy ",
Wednesday- ,- the weather channel was advising all but essential travel
since- a major storm was sweeping across- central Florida- , so i-
didn't go
again- , thinking it could only get better . Thursday I woke to driving r
ain
again ,- and a forecast of- more storms including- tornado warnings,
i
thought- they must have been joking as this was still- March so decided
again- to stay put , ( just as well when a tornado hit the field).
Friday morning was- blue skies , so into the car , "Yippee" finally off t
o
Sun n Fun , i then spent 3.5 hours- in a traffic jam- trying- to get
into
the mud carparks. Finally got in to the show ground at 14:30- just as the
airshow was starting , which was nice- but nothing special ( particularly
since it consisted mainly all day of the Blue Angels doing- practice rout
ines
, in preparation for their Saturday show ) ,
Once inside- with the exception of seeing all the carnage- from the pre
vious
day, (which was breaking my heart seeing- the owners particularly
homebuilders trying to salvage what they could )---there were just a
handful
of planes- in the homebuilt- parking area , and having spent too much t
ime
trying to photograph either the blues or the raptor , only managed a quick
visit to two of the hangers , before it all closed at 5:00p
Saturday- i- left for Europe again- ( "Delta" lost my Luggage , but
- they
have- now- found it in Detroit ?) ,
so- my- dream vacation- was not a success,
Question : what is the weather in Oshkosh normally like , before I book my
tickets
Keith
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Well I survived Sun'n Fun ,
living in Europe this was my first opportunity to have a holiday in USA
during one of the two big airshows: Yippee !!!!!! , arriving in Florida on
Monday to torrential rain , i decided not to go on the Tuesday as it
"might be a bit Muddy ",
Wednesday , the weather channel was advising all but essential travel
since a major storm was sweeping across central Florida , so i didn't go
again , thinking it could only get better . Thursday I woke to driving rain
again , and a forecast of more storms including tornado warnings, i
thought they must have been joking as this was still March so decided
again to stay put , ( just as well when a tornado hit the field).
Friday morning was blue skies , so into the car , "Yippee" finally off to
Sun n Fun , i then spent 3.5 hours in a traffic jam trying to get into
the mud carparks. Finally got in to the show ground at 14:30 just as the
airshow was starting , which was nice but nothing special ( particularly
since it consisted mainly all day of the Blue Angels doing practice routines
, in preparation for their Saturday show ) ,
Once inside with the exception of seeing all the carnage from the previous
day, (which was breaking my heart seeing the owners particularly
homebuilders trying to salvage what they could ) there were just a handful
of planes in the homebuilt parking area , and having spent too much time
trying to photograph either the blues or the raptor , only managed a quick
visit to two of the hangers , before it all closed at 5:00p
Saturday i left for Europe again ( "Delta" lost my Luggage , but they
have now found it in Detroit ?) ,
so my dream vacation was not a success,
Question : what is the weather in Oshkosh normally like , before I book my
tickets
Keith
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Does anyone have a metal prop on at TR-1?
I'm considering a prop change in the next year or so. I'm hoping to get more efficiency
and not worry as much about rain damage. At a minimum I'll likely change
to a different pitch wood prop. Since my engine overhaul 2 years ago I can
push 2800+ rpm at any altitude. It'd be nice to get a bit more cruise.
...Jason
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What engine? About 4 years ago Sensenich was doing vibration tests on one
for the Cont. IO-240. I don't know if is for sale, you might check with
them.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Hills" <jason@hills.org>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:56 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Metal prop?
>
> Does anyone have a metal prop on at TR-1?
>
> I'm considering a prop change in the next year or so. I'm hoping to get
> more efficiency and not worry as much about rain damage. At a minimum I'll
> likely change to a different pitch wood prop. Since my engine overhaul 2
> years ago I can push 2800+ rpm at any altitude. It'd be nice to get a bit
> more cruise.
>
> ...Jason
>
>
>
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Lyc O-290-D2
...Jason
On Apr 4, 2011, at 2:21 PM, "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
>
> What engine? About 4 years ago Sensenich was doing vibration tests on one for
the Cont. IO-240. I don't know if is for sale, you might check with them.
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Hills" <jason@hills.org>
> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:56 PM
> Subject: KIS-List: Metal prop?
>
>
>>
>> Does anyone have a metal prop on at TR-1?
>>
>> I'm considering a prop change in the next year or so. I'm hoping to get more
efficiency and not worry as much about rain damage. At a minimum I'll likely
change to a different pitch wood prop. Since my engine overhaul 2 years ago I
can push 2800+ rpm at any altitude. It'd be nice to get a bit more cruise.
>>
>> ...Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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I flew my Kis4 there on Saturday and the ramp was full of homebuilts.
Too bad we couldn't meet up.
On Monday, April 4, 2011, <Keith.Miller@esa.int> wrote:
>
> Well I survived Sun'n Fun ,
> living in Europe this was my first opportunity to have a holiday in USA
> during one of the two big airshows: Yippee !!!!!! , arriving in Florida on
> Monday to torrential rain , i decided not to go on the Tuesday as it
> "might be a bit Muddy ",
> Wednesday , the weather channel was advising all but essential travel
> since a major storm was sweeping across central Florida , so i didn't go
> again , thinking it could only get better . Thursday I woke to driving rain
> again , and a forecast of more storms including tornado warnings, i
> thought they must have been joking as this was still March so decided
> again to stay put , ( just as well when a tornado hit the field).
> Friday morning was blue skies , so into the car , "Yippee" finally off to
> Sun n Fun , i then spent 3.5 hours in a traffic jam trying to get into
> the mud carparks. Finally got in to the show ground at 14:30 just as the
> airshow was starting , which was nice but nothing special ( particularly
> since it consisted mainly all day of the Blue Angels doing practice routines
> , in preparation for their Saturday show ) ,
> Once inside with the exception of seeing all the carnage from the previous
> day, (which was breaking my heart seeing the owners particularly
> homebuilders trying to salvage what they could ) there were just a handful
> of planes in the homebuilt parking area , and having spent too much time
> trying to photograph either the blues or the raptor , only managed a quick
> visit to two of the hangers , before it all closed at 5:00p
> Saturday i left for Europe again ( "Delta" lost my Luggage , but they
> have now found it in Detroit ?) ,
> so my dream vacation was not a success,
>
> Question : what is the weather in Oshkosh normally like , before I book my
> tickets
>
> Keith
>
>
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One thing to think about is that propellers of the same diameter and pitch
will be different from different companies.- Everyone has their own way o
f filling in the details.
-
Personally there is no way I would get a metal fixed pitch prop.- I went
with a prince composite prop.- A metal prop will be significantly heavier
so I'd check-the effect on your CG before you buy.---
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Also, you will have metal prop and engine combination-with unknown fatigu
e characteristics.- Wood/composite propelers have much better fatigue cha
racteristics.- It's worth noting that metal propellers are not allowed in
formula one air racing due metal fatigue and in flight failures of metal p
ropellers.-
-
The one advantage of a metal prop is that-the pitch-can be changed-(y
ou don't want to watch them repitch it though).
-
I think running 2800 rpm wide open in cruise is perfect.-
-
If your going to spend money on a new prop then it's worth at least concide
ring a constant speed prop if your engine is set up for it.- I'm on the f
ence for my airplane.- I think you can get a used/rebuilt prop and govern
er for about $6,000 and it weighs about 50 pounds.- There are lighter con
stant speed props out there but they are $10-12,000, but maybe you can find
one used.-
-
Anyhow, hope this was helpful...
-
Scott
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
From: F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Metal prop?
What engine? About 4 years ago Sensenich was doing vibration tests on one f
or the Cont. IO-240. I don't know if is for sale, you might check with them
.
Tim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Hills" <jason@hills.org>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:56 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Metal prop?
>
> Does anyone have a metal prop on at TR-1?
>
> I'm considering a prop change in the next year or so. I'm hoping to get m
ore efficiency and not worry as much about rain damage. At a minimum I'll l
ikely change to a different pitch wood prop. Since my engine overhaul 2 yea
rs ago I can push 2800+ rpm at any altitude. It'd be nice to get a bit more
cruise.
>
> ...Jason
>
>
>
>
>
le, List Admin.
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