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1. 05:25 AM - Re: KIS accidents?? (Bob and Kathy)
2. 08:21 AM - Air struts (ALFRED ROSA)
3. 01:28 PM - Re: KIS accidents?? (BlueSkyFlier)
4. 03:23 PM - Re: Air struts (Bill Schertz)
5. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: KIS accidents?? (Bill Schertz)
6. 07:02 PM - Re: Air struts (jerzy krasinski)
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| Subject: | Re: KIS accidents?? |
TR-1, N232AN was totally destroyed on July 30, 2007 due to a failure of the left
wing push rod attached to the aileron. NTSB determined the rivets were not
installed in the rod where it attached to the aileron. Pilot (me) was seriously
injured. I was third owner of this aircraft.
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From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 9:44:59 PM
Subject: KIS-List: KIS accidents??
After reading about Alfred's incident I was wondering, does anybody know how
many serious accidents KIS airplanes have had over the years due to airplane
failure? Numbers and probable cause for both the TR-1 and TR-4 where the
airplane was a total loss.
Galin
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Now that the hinge question has been resolved, I would like to do the same
with the air struts. I reinforced
the front part of the door thinking that was where I would place the strut
but now am questioning that placement
as possibly being an intrusion for the pilot and copilot. Have people found
that a rear placement of the struts is
a better way to go?
Also, using only one strut per door, what would be the recommended pressure
rating for a Cruiser door.
I'm guessing about 40 lbs.
Al
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| Subject: | Re: KIS accidents?? |
I know of three incidents here in the UK where TR-1 doors opened in flight, the
last one in latter half of last year. Two doors are still missing in action
and nobody the worse for it, the third one came open just after takeoff and was
damaged but passenger managed to pull it down again although his headset was
flapping out the side. Other then a new hole in the pilot's seat cover, no problems
:o) These planes are all still flying today.
A quick scan of the UK register shows one TR-1 destroyed in 1997 and one TR4 Cruiser
destroyed in 2009. Apparently no fatalities or serious injuries (but I could
not find the AAIB report of the 1997 accident)
Other than that, three TR-1s without wings here in UK, two of these are tail draggers
and the third is/was mine.
Seven TR-1s still on the register her in the UK (incl the three awaiting new wings
:o) John Petrie probably knows the record for South Africa. A good tally of
kits were bought by the guys there.
Regards,
Alfred
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I put mine at the rear, and am happy with the location. 60# if I recall
correctly.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase one testing Completed
From: ALFRED ROSA
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:14 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Air struts
Now that the hinge question has been resolved, I would like to do the
same with the air struts. I reinforced
the front part of the door thinking that was where I would place the
strut but now am questioning that placement
as possibly being an intrusion for the pilot and copilot. Have people
found that a rear placement of the struts is
a better way to go?
Also, using only one strut per door, what would be the recommended
pressure rating for a Cruiser door.
I'm guessing about 40 lbs.
Al
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| Subject: | Re: KIS accidents?? |
An early newsletter (back when they had newsletters) told of a European
crash into the sea (with fatality) 1997 would have been about right.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase one testing Completed
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From: BlueSkyFlier
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: KIS accidents??
I know of three incidents here in the UK where TR-1 doors opened in flight,
the last one in latter half of last year. Two doors are still missing in
action and nobody the worse for it, the third one came open just after
takeoff and was damaged but passenger managed to pull it down again although
his headset was flapping out the side. Other then a new hole in the pilot's
seat cover, no problems :o) These planes are all still flying today.
A quick scan of the UK register shows one TR-1 destroyed in 1997 and one TR4
Cruiser destroyed in 2009. Apparently no fatalities or serious injuries (but
I could not find the AAIB report of the 1997 accident)
Other than that, three TR-1s without wings here in UK, two of these are tail
draggers and the third is/was mine.
Seven TR-1s still on the register her in the UK (incl the three awaiting new
wings :o) John Petrie probably knows the record for South Africa. A good
tally of kits were bought by the guys there.
Regards,
Alfred
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