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1. 05:24 AM - Re: window tint (Galin Hernandez)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: window tint (ALFRED ROSA)
3. 07:40 AM - Re: window tint (Mark Kettering)
4. 08:11 AM - Re: window tint (F. Tim Yoder)
5. 11:20 AM - Re: window tint (Richard Trickel)
6. 03:02 PM - Re: window tint (Galin Hernandez)
7. 03:42 PM - Canopy cover (Scott Stearns)
8. 03:52 PM - Re: window tint (F. Tim Yoder)
9. 05:33 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Galin Hernandez)
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But it's a DRY heat! ;o)
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:06 PM, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
> Tinting is more effective in reducing glare than heat. Dual pane would
> help keep the interior cooler but only if you air-condition the space. Light
> colors reduces the heat absorption but when the plane sits in the sun it
> still gets to hot.Shade and venting is about the best you can do. I am in
> Arizona and try to be finished flying by 10:00 am in the summer. It is
> usually over a 100 deg. by then.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: window tint
>
> Exactly why I am changing the interiors to a light tan color. I have
> completed the seat cushions and the baggage compartment. Next is the
> passenger area and the pilot/copilot area will be last.
>
> Galin
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I think having a light colored interior would make a much larger
>> difference compared to tinting the windows.
>>
>> I would avoid acs for anything not specific to aircraft. I've learned that
>> just because acs sells it doesn't mean it works or is a good product. That
>> water based primer is a good example.
>>
>> I would recommend contacting Aircraft Windshield, they made the windows,
>> and asking what they recommend short of buying new windows with a darker
>> tint.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>;
>> *To: *kisbuilders <kis-list@matronics.com>;
>> *Subject: *KIS-List: window tint
>> *Sent: *Thu, May 5, 2011 12:40:05 AM
>>
>> Considering applying tint film to the insides of the windows. In
>> Florida's hot and sunny climate, tinted windows are a must to keep out most
>> UV and a lot of heat buildup.
>>
>> ACS sells a kit for this. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience
>> with tint films?
>>
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*If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an exterior cover over the
windows will help a lot.*
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*Al*
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:06 PM, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
> Tinting is more effective in reducing glare than heat. Dual pane would
> help keep the interior cooler but only if you air-condition the space. Light
> colors reduces the heat absorption but when the plane sits in the sun it
> still gets to hot.Shade and venting is about the best you can do. I am in
> Arizona and try to be finished flying by 10:00 am in the summer. It is
> usually over a 100 deg. by then.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: window tint
>
> Exactly why I am changing the interiors to a light tan color. I have
> completed the seat cushions and the baggage compartment. Next is the
> passenger area and the pilot/copilot area will be last.
>
> Galin
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I think having a light colored interior would make a much larger
>> difference compared to tinting the windows.
>>
>> I would avoid acs for anything not specific to aircraft. I've learned that
>> just because acs sells it doesn't mean it works or is a good product. That
>> water based primer is a good example.
>>
>> I would recommend contacting Aircraft Windshield, they made the windows,
>> and asking what they recommend short of buying new windows with a darker
>> tint.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>;
>> *To: *kisbuilders <kis-list@matronics.com>;
>> *Subject: *KIS-List: window tint
>> *Sent: *Thu, May 5, 2011 12:40:05 AM
>>
>> Considering applying tint film to the insides of the windows. In
>> Florida's hot and sunny climate, tinted windows are a must to keep out most
>> UV and a lot of heat buildup.
>>
>> ACS sells a kit for this. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience
>> with tint films?
>>
>> Al Rosa
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Depending on the tint film, tinting can be very effective at blocking heat due
to the sun. Some of the low E films block just 10% of the visible light and block
up to 60% of the total solar energy (heat gain). Some low E films block
up to 85% of the total solar energy but they also block more visible light. The
film I have used on the side windows of a car blocks 28% of the visible and
70% of the total solar energy. Most of these films also block UV, some as high
as 99%. This really helps reduce sun burn and fading of the interior.
Even the paint you chose can have a big effect and I am not talking about just
the color. Most paints actually allow a fair amount of the total solar energy
to pass. Yes, light colors reflect more of the visible but maybe not the IR.
In fact a fair amount of the IR can pass through light colored paint and fiberglass
making your interior hotter. In general, paints (or under-paints) with
silver or metallic pigments or some ceramic additives help block IR. IR transmission
is not a problem with metal aircraft or metal cars.
Of course solid shade also works and works best! But keep in mind that most cloth
may block most of the visible but may not block much of the total solar energy.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: "F. Tim Yoder"
Sent: May 5, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
Tinting is more effective in reducing glare than
heat. Dual pane would help keep the interior cooler but only if you
air-condition the space. Light colors reduces the heat absorption but when the
plane sits in the sun it still gets to hot.Shade and venting is about the best
you can do. I am in Arizona and try to be finished flying by 10:00 am in the
summer. It is usually over a 100 deg. by then.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Galin
Hernandez
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:41
PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
Exactly why I am changing the interiors to a light tan color. I
have completed the seat cushions and the baggage compartment. Next is the
passenger area and the pilot/copilot area will be last.
Galin
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I think having a light colored interior would make a much larger
difference compared to tinting the windows.
I would avoid acs
for anything not specific to aircraft. I've learned that just because
acs sells it doesn't mean it works or is a good product. That water
based primer is a good example.
I would recommend contacting
Aircraft Windshield, they made the windows, and asking what they
recommend short of buying new windows with a darker tint.
Cheers,
Scott
From: ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>;
Subject:
KIS-List: window tint
Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 12:40:05 AM
Considering applying tint film to the insides of the
windows. In Florida's hot and sunny climate, tinted windows are
a must to keep out most UV and a lot of heat buildup.
ACS sells a kit for this. Does anyone have any knowledge or
experience with tint films?
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If you use the silver insulated material cut to fit the inside of the
windows and keep the vents open for circulation, it will keep the
interior near ambient. With the exterior covers the interior will
probably go well above the ambient temp. Both systems will protect the
interior and panel from the UV rays.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: ALFRED ROSA
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an exterior cover over
the windows will help a lot.
Al-----
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While
I was still in Calif the company I worked for had a material that almost lo
oked like bubble wrap with gold and silver surfaces.- we made a few inter
nal window covers with this and it really worked well.- Rolled up for sto
rage and held in place with small suckshun cup
Rich
--- On Fri, 5/6/11, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
From: F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
If you use the silver insulated- material cut to fit the inside of the wi
ndows and keep the vents open for circulation, it will keep the interior ne
ar ambient. With the exterior covers the interior will probably go well abo
ve the ambient temp. Both systems will protect the interior and panel from
the UV rays.
-
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: ALFRED ROSA
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an exterior cover over the
windows will help a lot.
Al-----
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The problem with this kind of silver reflective material on the inside of
the windshield is that the UV penetrates the window twice. Once as it enters
then again as it is reflected back out. UV light can speed up the
deterioration of some plastic material, like plexi-glass. This is normally
not an issue with glass windows.
I use a Bruce's Custom Cover "Sunbrella" on the airplane. At least this way
when it is out in the sun most of the light (UV included) gets reflected
before entering the windshield.
Galin
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>wrote:
> If you use the silver insulated material cut to fit the inside of the
> windows and keep the vents open for circulation, it will keep the interior
> near ambient. With the exterior covers the interior will probably go well
> above the ambient temp. Both systems will protect the interior and panel
> from the UV rays.
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* ALFRED ROSA <fredorosa@gmail.com>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 7:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: window tint
>
> *If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an exterior cover over
> the windows will help a lot.*
> *
> *
> *Al*-----
>
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I need to get a canopy cover. Anyone know of one fitted to a 2 seat KIS?
=0A=0AThanks,=0AScott
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That is what I use also.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Trickel
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
While
I was still in Calif the company I worked for had a
material that almost looked like bubble wrap with gold and silver
surfaces. we made a few internal window covers with this and it really
worked well. Rolled up for storage and held in place with small
suckshun cup
Rich
--- On Fri, 5/6/11, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
wrote:
From: F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 3:09 PM
If you use the silver insulated material cut to fit the
inside of the windows and keep the vents open for circulation, it will
keep the interior near ambient. With the exterior covers the interior
will probably go well above the ambient temp. Both systems will protect
the interior and panel from the UV rays.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: ALFRED ROSA
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an
exterior cover over the windows will help a lot.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
Bruces Custom Covers has the cover for both the 2 & 4 seater.
Galin
On Friday, May 6, 2011, Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I need to get a canopy cover. Anyone know of one fitted to a 2 seat KIS?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
> From:
>
> Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>;
>
> To:
>
> <kis-list@matronics.com>;
>
> Subject:
>
> Re: KIS-List: window tint
>
> Sent:
>
> Fri, May 6, 2011 9:59:59 PM
>
>
> The problem with this kind of silver
reflective material on the inside of the windshield is that the UV penetrates
the window twice. Once as it enters then again as it is reflected back out. UV
light can speed up the deterioration of some plastic material, like plexi-glass.
This is normally not an issue with glass windows.
>
>
> I use a Bruce's Custom Cover "Sunbrella" on the airplane. At least this way when
it is out in the sun most of the light (UV included) gets reflected before
entering the windshield.
>
> Galin
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, F. Tim Yoder <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
>
>
> If you use the silver insulated material cut
> to fit the inside of the windows and keep the vents open for circulation, it
> will keep the interior near ambient. With the exterior covers the interior will
> probably go well above the ambient temp. Both systems will protect the interior
> and panel from the UV rays.
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> ALFRED ROSA
>
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: window tint
>
> If no shade is available on the tarmac, I guess an
> exterior cover over the windows will help a lot.
>
>
> Al-----
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