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1. 05:17 AM - Re: Re : oshkosh (Mark Kettering)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Re : oshkosh (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: Re : oshkosh (jerzy krasinski)
4. 08:13 AM - Oshkosh by airliner (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
5. 12:19 PM - Re: More Airplane "Things" (kent pyle)
6. 12:19 PM - Re: Re : oshkosh (kent pyle)
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| Subject: | Re: Re : oshkosh |
Hello Keith,
I do not think it has been done but it is possible to fly a KIS with standard tanks
to Oshkosh from Europe. A long time ago I read a book written by a ferry
pilot that had flown the Atlantic many time in small planes with stock tanks.
If I recall correctly the longest leg is only about 550 miles.
So you should fuel up and go for it! Then tell us all about it.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
>Sent: Jun 20, 2011 2:54 AM
>To: kis-list@matronics.com
>Subject: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
>
>
>After the wash out in Sun n fun this year , i have actually convinced my
>wife that the weather can not be that bad in July and we should go to
>Oshkosh, ( first time for either of us ) , sadly I cant get enough fuel in
>the KIS to fly over from Europe , so will come by Commercial airline, but I
>look forward to seeing and meeting up with a few of you at the show.
>
>Keith
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>Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to stop by the Clinton Airport
>(GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture. My plans are to leave Clinton
>around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Iowa for fuel and then go on to AirVenture.
>
>Harry Cook, from Kerrville, and I have been doing this for the past 10 years
>or so.
>
>Kent Pyle, 354 SE 100th Road, Clinton, MO 64735 660-885-2176 Cell
>660-351-2420
>
>Harry, Galin has the Kis Cruiser that I was checked out in in order to meet
>the insurance requirements for coverage for the first flight.
>
>Kent
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Galin Hernandez
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:35 PM
> Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"
>
> Now that the temperature here in Texas is climbing above 100 degrees F
> almost every day I always wonder how the increased density altitude is
> affecting the airplane's performance. So I made up an Excel spreadsheet with
> ESTIMATED performance calculations based on airplane loading, weather and
> runway conditions. I added the performance estimator in to another Excel
> worksheet that made up for TR-4 Weight & Balance calculation.
>
> I have used it for the past few weeks and it seems to work but I don't fly
> enough to really put it through it's paces and verify how close the
> estimates are. So, I am attaching it here so others can try it and see if it
> is "close enough" and where "bugs" are that need to be fixed. I already know
> of one "bug" I need to fix, I just haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
> :o)
>
> Galin
> N819PR
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> - Release Date: 06/15/11 13:34:00
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| Subject: | Re: Re : oshkosh |
Assuming you are right about the longest leg and having sufficient fuel
capacity, and assuming I had the required Instrument rating, an IFR
equiped KIS, HF Radio, Survival kit , Money for the fuel , i would never
manage to get the most important clearance "permission from my wife" .
From: Mark Kettering <mantafs@earthlink.net>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: 20/06/2011 14:18
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
Hello Keith,
I do not think it has been done but it is possible to fly a KIS with standard
tanks to Oshkosh from Europe. A long time ago I read a book written by a
ferry pilot that had flown the Atlantic many time in small planes with stock
tanks. If I recall correctly the longest leg is only about 550 miles.
So you should fuel up and go for it! Then tell us all about it.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
>Sent: Jun 20, 2011 2:54 AM
>To: kis-list@matronics.com
>Subject: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
>
>
>After the wash out in Sun n fun this year , i have actually convinced my
>wife that the weather can not be that bad in July and we should go to
>Oshkosh, ( first time for either of us ) , sadly I cant get enough fuel
in
>the KIS to fly over from Europe , so will come by Commercial airline, but
I
>look forward to seeing and meeting up with a few of you at the show.
>
>Keith
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>Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to stop by the Clinton Airport
>(GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture. My plans are to leave
Clinton
>around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Iowa for fuel and then go on to AirVenture.
>
>Harry Cook, from Kerrville, and I have been doing this for the past 10 years
>or so.
>
>Kent Pyle, 354 SE 100th Road, Clinton, MO 64735 660-885-2176 Cell
>660-351-2420
>
>Harry, Galin has the Kis Cruiser that I was checked out in in order to meet
>the insurance requirements for coverage for the first flight.
>
>Kent
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Galin Hernandez
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:35 PM
> Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"
>
> Now that the temperature here in Texas is climbing above 100 degrees F
> almost every day I always wonder how the increased density altitude is
> affecting the airplane's performance. So I made up an Excel spreadsheet
with
> ESTIMATED performance calculations based on airplane loading, weather and
> runway conditions. I added the performance estimator in to another Excel
> worksheet that made up for TR-4 Weight & Balance calculation.
>
> I have used it for the past few weeks and it seems to work but I don't fly
> enough to really put it through it's paces and verify how close the
> estimates are. So, I am attaching it here so others can try it and see if
it
> is "close enough" and where "bugs" are that need to be fixed. I already
know
> of one "bug" I need to fix, I just haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
> :o)
>
> Galin
> N819PR
>
>
> - Release Date: 06/15/11 13:34:00
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Re : oshkosh |
Ray Clegg flew his Cruiser from England to Oskosh in 1993. He had extra tan
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posted by: Keith.Miller@esa.int=0A>=0A>After- the wash out in Sun n fun
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=0A=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to s
top by the Clinton Airport=0A>(GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture
.- My plans are to leave=0AClinton=0A>around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Io
wa for fuel and then go on to AirVenture.=0A>=0A>Harry Cook, from Kerrville
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Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"=0A>=0A> Now that the temperature
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| Subject: | Oshkosh by airliner |
You are quite right , and a great trip it sounded, but in the 5 days it
took to fly from Europe and the cost of the fuel alone, me and my wife
can enjoy the Gin and tonics on the airliner and drive up and down the
lakes in the rental car , laze around our vacation rental on green bay and
I am more or less guaranteed to get to Oshkosh whatever the weather might
bring.
We do have a close friend who is making the trip over in his Mooney so
anyone going, please watch out for a dark metallic grey Mooney M20C with a
rainbow painted on it. registered D-EDDN.
From: jerzy krasinski <jerzy_krasinski@sbcglobal.net>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: 20/06/2011 16:29
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
Ray Clegg flew his Cruiser from England to Oskosh in 1993. He had extra tanks
for a total of 120 gal.
See http://www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com/ in "whats new" under
08/11/03 date
.
You forgot about permits to fly experimental plane over all the coutries on
your way and , of course, the insurance money.
I remeber Ray Clegg complaining about some ridicuosly high insurance for a
flight over Greenland. You could damage their invaluable snow
and ice in case of an accident.
Jerzy
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| 08/11/0 | Updat | Updates to Ray Cleggs Photos with shots take at |
| 3 | e | Oshkosh 2003 |
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From: "Keith.Miller@esa.int" <Keith.Miller@esa.int>
Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 7:57:51 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
Assuming you are right about the longest leg and having sufficient fuel
capacity, and assuming I had the required Instrument rating, an IFR
equiped KIS, HF Radio, Survival kit , Money for the fuel , i would never
manage to get the most important clearance "permission from my wife" .
From: Mark Kettering <mantafs@earthlink.net>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Date: 20/06/2011 14:18
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
Hello Keith,
I do not think it has been done but it is possible to fly a KIS with standard
tanks to Oshkosh from Europe. A long time ago I read a book written by a
ferry pilot that had flown the Atlantic many time in small planes with stock
tanks. If I recall correctly the longest leg is only about 550 miles.
So you should fuel up and go for it! Then tell us all about it.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
>Sent: Jun 20, 2011 2:54 AM
>To: kis-list@matronics.com
>Subject: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
>
>
>After the wash out in Sun n fun this year , i have actually convinced my
>wife that the weather can not be that bad in July and we should go to
>Oshkosh, ( first time for either of us ) , sadly I cant get enough fuel
in
>the KIS to fly over from Europe , so will come by Commercial airline, but
I
>look forward to seeing and meeting up with a few of you at the show.
>
>Keith
>
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>Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to stop by the Clinton Airport
>(GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture. My plans are to leave
Clinton
>around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Iowa for fuel and then go on to AirVenture.
>
>Harry Cook, from Kerrville, and I have been doing this for the past 10 years
>or so.
>
>Kent Pyle, 354 SE 100th Road, Clinton, MO 64735 660-885-2176 Cell
>660-351-2420
>
>Harry, Galin has the Kis Cruiser that I was checked out in in order to meet
>the insurance requirements for coverage for the first flight.
>
>Kent
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Galin Hernandez
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:35 PM
> Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"
>
> Now that the temperature here in Texas is climbing above 100 degrees F
> almost every day I always wonder how the increased density altitude is
> affecting the airplane's performance. So I made up an Excel spreadsheet
with
> ESTIMATED performance calculations based on airplane loading, weather and
> runway conditions. I added the performance estimator in to another Excel
> worksheet that made up for TR-4 Weight & Balance calculation.
>
> I have used it for the past few weeks and it seems to work but I don't fly
> enough to really put it through it's paces and verify how close the
> estimates are. So, I am attaching it here so others can try it and see if
it
> is "close enough" and where "bugs" are that need to be fixed. I already
know
> of one "bug" I need to fix, I just haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
> :o)
>
> Galin
> N819PR
>
>
> - Release Date: 06/15/11 13:34:00
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More Airplane "Things" |
Yes, I will be flying the KIS there this and next year as well. The
invitation is open so come on up!! Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Galin Hernandez" <galinhdz@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"
>
> THANKS for the offer. I would LOVE to do this but I doubt I will have
> the "time" ($$$) to go to Oshkosh this year. We went to Sun-N-Fun this
> year and the wife has a wedding I have to go to so our flying budget
> is very low right now. :o(
>
> I do plan to make Oshkosh next year, God willing. But if there is a
> change of plans I will let you know immediately. Do you fly your KIS
> there? I want to fly mine there soon.
>
> Galin
>
> On Sunday, June 19, 2011, kent pyle <kentpyle@iland.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to stop
>> by the Clinton Airport (GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture. My
>> plans are to leave Clinton around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Iowa for fuel
>> and
>> then go on to AirVenture.
>>
>> Harry Cook, from Kerrville, and I have been doing
>> this for the past 10 years or so.
>>
>> Kent Pyle, 354 SE 100th Road, Clinton, MO 64735
>> 660-885-2176 Cell 660-351-2420
>>
>> Harry, Galin has the Kis Cruiser that I was checked
>> out in in order to meet the insurance requirements for coverage for the
>> first
>> flight.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Galin
>> Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
>> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:35
>> PM
>> Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane
>> "Things"
>>
>> Now that the temperature here in Texas is climbing above 100
>> degrees F almost every day I always wonder how the increased density
>> altitude is affecting the airplane's performance. So I made up an Excel
>> spreadsheet with ESTIMATED performance calculations based on airplane
>> loading,
>> weather and runway conditions. I added the performance estimator in to
>> another Excel worksheet that made up for TR-4 Weight & Balance
>> calculation.
>>
>>
>> I have used it for the past few weeks and it seems to work but I don't
>> fly enough to really put it through it's paces and verify how close the
>> estimates are. So, I am attaching it here so others can try it and see
>> if it
>> is "close enough" and where "bugs" are that need to be fixed. I already
>> know
>> of one "bug" I need to fix, I just haven't figured out how to fix it
>> yet.
>> :o)
>>
>>
>> Galin
>> N819PR
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Release
>> Date: 06/15/11 13:34:00
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| Subject: | Re: Re : oshkosh |
One of the first builders flew a KIS from Europe and few years back to
Oshkosh. As I recall he took the front seat out and put a fuel tank there.
My memory is not even close to perfect so someone else may be able to add to
or correct this. Kent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kettering" <mantafs@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
>
> Hello Keith,
>
> I do not think it has been done but it is possible to fly a KIS with
> standard tanks to Oshkosh from Europe. A long time ago I read a book
> written by a ferry pilot that had flown the Atlantic many time in small
> planes with stock tanks. If I recall correctly the longest leg is only
> about 550 miles.
>
> So you should fuel up and go for it! Then tell us all about it.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
>>Sent: Jun 20, 2011 2:54 AM
>>To: kis-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: KIS-List: Re : oshkosh
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>>After the wash out in Sun n fun this year , i have actually convinced my
>>wife that the weather can not be that bad in July and we should go to
>>Oshkosh, ( first time for either of us ) , sadly I cant get enough fuel
>>in
>>the KIS to fly over from Europe , so will come by Commercial airline, but
>>I
>>look forward to seeing and meeting up with a few of you at the show.
>>
>>Keith
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>>Galin, I again wish to extend my invitation to stop by the Clinton Airport
>>(GLY) and overnight on the way to AirvVenture. My plans are to leave
>>Clinton
>>around 8 AM, stop by Washington, Iowa for fuel and then go on to
>>AirVenture.
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>>Harry Cook, from Kerrville, and I have been doing this for the past 10
>>years
>>or so.
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>>Kent Pyle, 354 SE 100th Road, Clinton, MO 64735 660-885-2176 Cell
>>660-351-2420
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>>Harry, Galin has the Kis Cruiser that I was checked out in in order to
>>meet
>>the insurance requirements for coverage for the first flight.
>>
>>Kent
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Galin Hernandez
>> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:35 PM
>> Subject: KIS-List: More Airplane "Things"
>>
>> Now that the temperature here in Texas is climbing above 100 degrees F
>> almost every day I always wonder how the increased density altitude is
>> affecting the airplane's performance. So I made up an Excel spreadsheet
>> with
>> ESTIMATED performance calculations based on airplane loading, weather and
>> runway conditions. I added the performance estimator in to another Excel
>> worksheet that made up for TR-4 Weight & Balance calculation.
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>> I have used it for the past few weeks and it seems to work but I don't
>> fly
>> enough to really put it through it's paces and verify how close the
>> estimates are. So, I am attaching it here so others can try it and see if
>> it
>> is "close enough" and where "bugs" are that need to be fixed. I already
>> know
>> of one "bug" I need to fix, I just haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
>> :o)
>>
>> Galin
>> N819PR
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>> - Release Date: 06/15/11 13:34:00
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