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1. 07:29 AM - VMax - KIS TR-1 (JOHN JACKSON)
2. 08:12 AM - Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
3. 08:20 AM - Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 (JOHN JACKSON)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 (Flyinisfun@aol.com)
5. 10:19 AM - Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 (Scott Stearns)
6. 02:51 PM - SV: VMax - KIS TR-1 (Hans Christian Erstad)
7. 04:16 PM - VMax - KIS TR-1 ()
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Gentlemen=0A=0AI have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-2
40 A1B fitted =0A(125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop.- The
prop has been sent for =0Aoverhaul and the estimate is too expensive for m
e.- Therefore, I'm looking at =0Adowngrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade woo
den prop.=0A=0AThe manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my ai
rcraft but needs =0Asome information which I don't have and wondered if you
guys could help.- I used =0Ato cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power.-
However, the prop designer wants to =0Aknow the theoretical max straight an
d level speed for the aircraft at full =0Athrottle.- Anyone have any figu
res to hand for a TR-1 with an IO-240?=0A=0AI'll be selling the old VP prop
if anyone is interested, it's got 360 hours =0Asince new but will need cal
endar overhaul.=0A=0AJohn
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Subject: | Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 |
John
which prop manufacturer are you thinking about (Hercules ?), also can you
email me your telephone number Re the Mt prop.
Keith
Tr1 - G-OKMA.
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Gentlemen
I have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-240 A1B fitted
(125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop. The prop has been sent
for overhaul and the estimate is too expensive for me. Therefore, I'm
looking at downgrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade wooden prop.
The manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my aircraft but needs
some information which I don't have and wondered if you guys could help. I
used to cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power. However, the prop designer
wants to know the theoretical max straight and level speed for the aircraft
at full throttle. Anyone have any figures to hand for a TR-1 with an IO-240?
I'll be selling the old VP prop if anyone is interested, it's got 360 hours
since new but will need calendar overhaul.
John
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Subject: | Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 |
Keith=0A=0AHi, yes I was thinking about Hercules, but also thinking about a
Prince P-tip =0Atoo.=0A=0AMy phone number is 07841 470557.=0A=0AJJ=0A=0A
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have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-240 A1B fitted=0A
(125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop.- The prop has been se
nt=0Afor overhaul and the estimate is too expensive for me.- Therefore, I
'm=0Alooking at downgrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade wooden prop.=0A=0AThe
manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my aircraft but needs=0A
some information which I don't have and wondered if you guys could help.-
I=0Aused to cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power.- However, the prop des
igner=0Awants to know the theoretical max straight and level speed for the
aircraft=0Aat full throttle.- Anyone have any figures to hand for a TR-1
with an IO-240?=0A=0AI'll be selling the old VP prop if anyone is intereste
d, it's got 360 hours=0Asince new but will need calendar overhaul.=0A=0AJoh
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Subject: | Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 |
Hi John,
I suggest you contact Lonnie Prince at Prince props. He will work with
you by giving him the information you stated in you e-mail. I can imagine he
has made props for the engine and etc. configration that you have.
Jesse
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Subject: | Re: VMax - KIS TR-1 |
Check out http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-02_elippse.asp
How much do they get to overhaul the MT and how much do you want for it?
Scott
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On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:28 AM, JOHN JACKSON <helixaviation@btinternet.com> wro
te:
> Gentlemen
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> I have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-240 A1B fitted (
125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop. The prop has been sent f
or overhaul and the estimate is too expensive for me. Therefore, I'm lookin
g at downgrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade wooden prop.
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> The manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my aircraft but nee
ds some information which I don't have and wondered if you guys could help.
I used to cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power. However, the prop designer
wants to know the theoretical max straight and level speed for the aircraft
at full throttle. Anyone have any figures to hand for a TR-1 with an IO-24
0?
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> I'll be selling the old VP prop if anyone is interested, it's got 360 hour
s since new but will need calendar overhaul.
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> John
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John
I have an IO-240 A in my TR-1 with a Prince P-Tip 62x68. Full throttle
give
2800 RPM and around 155 kts. 2500 RPM (7.5 psi fuel pressure that
according
to engine manual should be 70%) give 135-140 kts.
Hans Christian
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[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av JOHN JACKSON
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Gentlemen
I have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-240 A1B
fitted
(125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop. The prop has been
sent
for overhaul and the estimate is too expensive for me. Therefore, I'm
looking at downgrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade wooden prop.
The manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my aircraft but
needs
some information which I don't have and wondered if you guys could help.
I
used to cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power. However, the prop
designer
wants to know the theoretical max straight and level speed for the
aircraft
at full throttle. Anyone have any figures to hand for a TR-1 with an
IO-240?
I'll be selling the old VP prop if anyone is interested, it's got 360
hours
since new but will need calendar overhaul.
John
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8/11/2011
Hello John, I am flying my TCM IO-240 B9B powered KIS TR-1 with a Prince
P tip prop. 68 inches diameter, 69 inches pitch. Seems to be a good
match, but obviously cannot perform like a variable pitch prop.
You wrote: "However, the prop designer wants to know the theoretical max
straight and level speed for the aircraft at full throttle."
Since theoretical implies a number arrived at by calculation rather than
measured in the air how does one calculate that number?
Alfred Prosser seemed to be pretty good at number crunching -- maybe he
can answer both questions:
A) How to calculate VMax for a KIS TR-1?
B What it is for a IO-240 powered KIS TR-1?
OC
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From: JOHN JACKSON
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: KIS-List: VMax - KIS TR-1
Gentlemen
I have a 2-place KIS TR-1 G-BZDR which currently has an IO-240 A1B
fitted (125HP) spinning an MT Variable pitch 3-blade prop. The prop has
been sent for overhaul and the estimate is too expensive for me.
Therefore, I'm looking at downgrading to a fixed-pitch 2-blade wooden
prop.
The manufacturer will optimise the prop design to suit my aircraft but
needs some information which I don't have and wondered if you guys could
help. I used to cruise around at 145Kts at 75% power. However, the
prop designer wants to know the theoretical max straight and level speed
for the aircraft at full throttle. Anyone have any figures to hand for
a TR-1 with an IO-240?
I'll be selling the old VP prop if anyone is interested, it's got 360
hours since new but will need calendar overhaul.
John
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