---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/31/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:05 AM - Re: gap seals (Scott Stearns) 2. 11:07 AM - Re: gap seals (Larry Daavid) 3. 11:33 AM - Re: gap seals (F. Tim Yoder) 4. 11:58 AM - Re: gap seals (Scott Stearns) 5. 01:21 PM - Re: gap seals (Galin Hernandez) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:47 AM PST US From: Scott Stearns Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals Hi Tim,=0A-=0AI just put tape between the hinges on the side with the hin ges.-- I also had to trim about a 1/4 inch off the flap gap seal since the whistled with the flaps down.- I attached with gap seals with double sided tape and single sided tape running from the skin up over the gap seal as for anti peel.- I just followed what the website said to do.- I use d the double and single sided tape from the website.- Not the cheapest, b ut it is high quality tape.- I attached a picture of the flap gap seal be fore I trimed them.=0A-=0AScott=0A =0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: F. Tim Yoder =0ATo: kis-list@matronics.co m =0ASent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:36 AM=0ASubject: Re: KIS-List: gap sea t.com>=0A=0AHi Scott,=0A=0ADid you put the seal on the bottom only? Do you have a photo of your instillation you could send? What tape did you use?=0A =0AThanks, Tim=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stearns" < sstearns2@yahoo.com>=0ATo: =0ASent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:29 PM=0ASubject: KIS-List: gap seals=0A=0A=0A> --> KIS-List message posted by: Scott Stearns =0A> =0A> I put gap seals on the ailerons, trim tabs, and flaps of my TR-1.- I am not sure if the fla p gap seals are doing much, maybe a small drag reduction.- The aileron ga p seals noticably reduced control forces and increase my roll control.- I recommend them for the aileron at least.- I used the 35mm gap seal for t he aileron and flap.=0A> =0A> I got them from this guy...=0A> =0A> http://w ww.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm=0A> =0A> I ordered the 78 mm gap seals for the tail feathers but I have not installed them yet.- I think there is a noticable drag reduction to be had with gap seals on the elevator and rudd =========== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:58 AM PST US From: Larry Daavid Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals Hi Scott, I remember Vance Jaqua used to say the KIS had a distinctive whistle when it was in the landing configuration. He said you could always tell when a KIS was coming in for a landing. Your comment just reminded me of that. Larry On 5/31/2012 9:00 AM, Scott Stearns wrote: > Hi Tim, > I just put tape between the hinges on the side with the hinges. I > also had to trim about a 1/4 inch off the flap gap seal since the > whistled with the flaps down. I attached with gap seals with double > sided tape and single sided tape running from the skin up over the gap > seal as for anti peel. I just followed what the website said to do. > I used the double and single sided tape from the website. Not the > cheapest, but it is high quality tape. I attached a picture of the > flap gap seal before I trimed them. > Scott > > *From:* F. Tim Yoder > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: gap seals > > > > > Hi Scott, > > Did you put the seal on the bottom only? Do you have a photo of your > instillation you could send? What tape did you use? > > Thanks, Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stearns" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:29 PM > Subject: KIS-List: gap seals > > > > > > > > I put gap seals on the ailerons, trim tabs, and flaps of my TR-1. I > am not sure if the flap gap seals are doing much, maybe a small drag > reduction. The aileron gap seals noticably reduced control forces and > increase my roll control. I recommend them for the aileron at least. > I used the 35mm gap seal for the aileron and flap. > > > > I got them from this guy... > > > > http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm > > > > I ordered the 78 mm gap seals for the tail feathers but I have not > installed them yet. I think there is a noticable drag reduction to be > had with gap seals on the elevator and rudder. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > _= - List Contribution Web Site &nbs > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:18 AM PST US From: "F. Tim Yoder" Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals Scott, >From your experience, I think doing my ailerons for the reduced control force would be desirable. If you have extra gap seal, 15 yd. roll seems like allot, would you like to sell me enough for my ailerons? Tim ----- Hi Tim, I just put tape between the hinges on the side with the hinges. I also had to trim about a 1/4 inch off the flap gap seal since the whistled with the flaps down. I attached with gap seals with double sided tape and single sided tape running from the skin up over the gap seal as for anti peel. I just followed what the website said to do. I used the double and single sided tape from the website. Not the cheapest, but it is high quality tape. I attached a picture of the flap gap seal before I trimed them. Scott From: F. Tim Yoder To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:36 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals Hi Scott, Did you put the seal on the bottom only? Do you have a photo of your instillation you could send? What tape did you use? Thanks, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stearns" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: KIS-List: gap seals > > I put gap seals on the ailerons, trim tabs, and flaps of my TR-1. I am not sure if the flap gap seals are doing much, maybe a small drag reduction. The aileron gap seals noticably reduced control forces and increase my roll control. I recommend them for the aileron at least. I used the 35mm gap seal for the aileron and flap. > > I got them from this guy... > > http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm > > I ordered the 78 mm gap seals for the tail feathers but I have not installed them yet. I think there is a noticable drag reduction to be had with gap seals on the elevator and rudder. > > Cheers, > > Scott > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List _= - List Contribution Web Site &nbs ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:22 AM PST US From: Scott Stearns Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals Just send me your-address and I will send you some.- Not enough money t o worry about and- I would like to see if you have the same results.=0A -=0AScott=0Asstearns2@yahoo.com=0A =0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: F. Tim Yoder =0ATo: kis-list@matronics.co m =0ASent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:33 AM=0ASubject: Re: KIS-List: gap sea ls=0A =0A=0A =0A- =0A- =0A- =0AScott, =0AFrom your experience, I th ink doing-my ailerons for the =0Areduced control force would be desirable . =0A- =0AIf you have extra gap seal, 15 yd. roll seems like =0Aallot, wo uld you like to sell me enough for my ailerons? =0A- =0ATim =0A----- =0A> Hi Tim, =0A>- =0A>I just put tape between the hinges on the side with the hinges.-- I also had to trim about a 1/4 inch off the flap gap seal since the whistled with the flaps down.- I attached with gap seals with double sided tape and single sided tape running from the skin up over the g ap seal as for anti peel.- I just followed what the website said to do. - I used the double and single sided tape from the website.- Not the c heapest, but it is high quality tape.- I attached a picture of the flap gap seal before I trimed them. =0A>- =0A>Scott =0A>--- =0A> =0A>=0A >________________________________=0A>From: F. Tim Yoder =0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:36 AM=0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals=0A>=0A>--> KIS-List message poste d by: "F. Tim Yoder" =0A =0A>=0A>Hi =0A Scott,=0A >=0A>Did you put the seal on the bottom only? Do you have a photo of =0A y our instillation you could send? What tape did you use?=0A>=0A>Thanks, =0A Tim=0A>=0A>=0A>----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stearns" =0A>To: =0A>Sent: =0A Monday, May 28, 2012 8:29 PM=0A>Subject: KIS-List: gap seals=0A>=0A>=0A>> =0A --> KIS-Lis t message posted by: Scott Stearns =0A>> =0A>> I put g ap seals on the ailerons, trim tabs, and flaps of my =0A TR-1.- I am not sure if the flap gap seals are doing much, maybe a small =0A drag reducti on.- The aileron gap seals noticably reduced control forces =0A and incr ease my roll control.- I recommend them for the aileron at =0A least.- I used the 35mm gap seal for the aileron and flap.=0A>> =0A>> I got them f rom this guy...=0A>> =0A>> =0A http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm=0A >> =0A>> I ordered the 78 mm =0A gap seals for the tail feathers but I hav e not installed them yet.- I =0A think there is a noticable drag reducti on to be had with gap seals on the =0A elevator and rudder.=0A>> =0A>> Che ers,=0A>> =0A>> Scott=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>=0A>http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?KIS-List=0A>_=- =0A - - - - - - List Cont ribution Web Site - - =0A - - - - - - - - =0A &nbs=0A ==================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: gap seals From: Galin Hernandez Galin.hernandez@dhs.gov On Thursday, May 31, 2012, Scott Stearns wrote: > Just send me your address and I will send you some. Not enough money to > worry about and I would like to see if you have the same results. > > Scott > sstearns2@yahoo.com > > *From:* F. Tim Yoder 'cvml', 'ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com');>> > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com 'kis-list@matronics.com');> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:33 AM > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: gap seals > > > Scott, > > From your experience, I think doing my ailerons for the reduced control > force would be desirable. > > If you have extra gap seal, 15 yd. roll seems like allot, would you like > to sell me enough for my ailerons? > > Tim > > ----- > Hi Tim, > > I just put tape between the hinges on the side with the hinges. I also > had to trim about a 1/4 inch off the flap gap seal since the whistled with > the flaps down. I attached with gap seals with double sided tape and > single sided tape running from the skin up over the gap seal as for anti > peel. I just followed what the website said to do. I used the double and > single sided tape from the website. Not the cheapest, but it is high > quality tape. I attached a picture of the flap gap seal before I trimed > them. > > Scott > > *From:* F. Tim Yoder 'ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com');>> > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com 'kis-list@matronics.com');> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: gap seals > > > > > Hi Scott, > > Did you put the seal on the bottom only? Do you have a photo of your > instillation you could send? What tape did you use? > > Thanks, Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stearns" > > > To: 'kis-list@matronics.com');>> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 8:29 PM > Subject: KIS-List: gap seals > > > > > > > > I put gap seals on the ailerons, trim tabs, and flaps of my TR-1. I am > not sure if the flap gap seals are doing much, maybe a small drag > reduction. The aileron gap seals noticably reduced control forces and > increase my roll control. I recommend them for the aileron at least. I > used the 35mm gap seal for the aileron and flap. > > > > I got them from this guy... > > > > http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm > > > > I ordered the 78 mm gap seals for the tail feathers but I have not > installed them yet. I think there is a noticable drag reduction to be had > with gap seals on the elevator and rudder. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > _= - List Contribution Web Site &nbs > > > *http://===== > * > > > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.