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1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders (Scott Stearns)
2. 01:45 AM - AW: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders (Twellmann, Ralf)
3. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders (William Schertz)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders (Mike Pienaar)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders (Scott Stearns)
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Subject: | Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders |
What kind of rotary? What kind of power, speed, fuel burn, etc are you getting?
What is the empty weight?
Thanks,
Scott
On Jan 8, 2013, at 5:46 PM, William Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I would like the list also,
> Bill Schertz
> 80 hours with a Mazda Rotary Engine
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Mark,
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>> I would like to have a copy of the list. You should have my info from the old
list.
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>> Thank you,
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>> Tim N52TY (TR-1)
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:23 AM
>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
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>>> Robert and other TR-4 builders and owners,
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>>> I do not know of any other TR-4s in Texas. There was the Davis TR-4 transplanted
to Texas but that airplane is totaled out. There is a beautiful TR-1 built
by Ralph Bernhardt now owned by Ray Muse in Narogdocches, Texas.
>>>
>>> There were about 65 TR-4s produced, 61 or 62 by Tri-R and about 4 were produced
by Pulsar. Of the total production I can account for about 50 TR-4s so there
are about 15 yet to find.
>>>
>>> Robert I sent the latest version of the KIS owners and builders list to your
at&t address. If any other builders and owners want a copy of the file I will
be happy to send it along. I contains too much personal information to post
on the web.
>>>
>>> Mark Trickel
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391802#391802
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Subject: | Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders |
Hi Mark,
i would also like to get the list.
Best regards from Germany,
Ralf Twellmann, KIS TR1-C # 104
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von mark_trickel
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013 17:24
An: kis-list@matronics.com
Betreff: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
Robert and other TR-4 builders and owners,
I do not know of any other TR-4s in Texas. There was the Davis TR-4 transplanted
to Texas but that airplane is totaled out. There is a beautiful TR-1 built by
Ralph Bernhardt now owned by Ray Muse in Narogdocches, Texas.
There were about 65 TR-4s produced, 61 or 62 by Tri-R and about 4 were produced
by Pulsar. Of the total production I can account for about 50 TR-4s so there
are about 15 yet to find.
Robert I sent the latest version of the KIS owners and builders list to your at&t
address. If any other builders and owners want a copy of the file I will be
happy to send it along. I contains too much personal information to post on the
web.
Mark Trickel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391802#391802
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Subject: | Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders |
Mazda 13-B two rotor engine, Real World Solutions (RWS) electronic fuel
injection and ignition, RWS gear reduction 2.85:1.
~150 mph cruise at 6000 - 6500 rpm (engine). Fuel burn ~ 8.5-9 G/hr at
cruise, I estimate that I am getting between 165-170 hp, but no real way to
test it.
Empty weight 1450
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stearns
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
What kind of rotary? What kind of power, speed, fuel burn, etc are you
getting? What is the empty weight?
Thanks,
Scott
On Jan 8, 2013, at 5:46 PM, William Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I would like the list also,
> Bill Schertz
> 80 hours with a Mazda Rotary Engine
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I would like to have a copy of the list. You should have my info from the
>> old list.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Tim N52TY (TR-1)
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:23 AM
>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Robert and other TR-4 builders and owners,
>>>
>>> I do not know of any other TR-4s in Texas. There was the Davis TR-4
>>> transplanted to Texas but that airplane is totaled out. There is a
>>> beautiful TR-1 built by Ralph Bernhardt now owned by Ray Muse in
>>> Narogdocches, Texas.
>>>
>>> There were about 65 TR-4s produced, 61 or 62 by Tri-R and about 4 were
>>> produced by Pulsar. Of the total production I can account for about 50
>>> TR-4s so there are about 15 yet to find.
>>>
>>> Robert I sent the latest version of the KIS owners and builders list to
>>> your at&t address. If any other builders and owners want a copy of the
>>> file I will be happy to send it along. I contains too much personal
>>> information to post on the web.
>>>
>>> Mark Trickel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391802#391802
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders |
Hi Mark,
Mike and Marlene Pienaar are also still building a TR-4. After moving with
the project numerous times it is now finally (hopefully?) home in a hangar
at Victoria airport in BC Canada (just across the border from Seattle)
This is either kit 023 or 025 that was part of the consignment of a number
of kits delivered to South Africa. Ours has the steerable front strut.
The wings and all flying surfaces have been painted and are ready to go.
We intend installing a LOM Praha M332 C in line 4 cylinder engine with a
constant speed prop. The engine has been mounted and we are currently
finishing the engine cowling. We have not yet closed the fuselage and will
do that after wiring which will be the next step.
If you can send us a list of the other TR-4 builders it would be
appreciated.
Please advise what other information you need.
Keep well
Mike and Marlene
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
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> Robert and other TR-4 builders and owners,
>
> I do not know of any other TR-4s in Texas. There was the Davis TR-4
> transplanted to Texas but that airplane is totaled out. There is a
> beautiful TR-1 built by Ralph Bernhardt now owned by Ray Muse in
> Narogdocches, Texas.
>
> There were about 65 TR-4s produced, 61 or 62 by Tri-R and about 4 were
> produced by Pulsar. Of the total production I can account for about 50
> TR-4s so there are about 15 yet to find.
>
> Robert I sent the latest version of the KIS owners and builders list to
> your at&t address. If any other builders and owners want a copy of the
> file I will be happy to send it along. I contains too much personal
> information to post on the web.
>
> Mark Trickel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391802#391802
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders |
Tracy cook claims an sfc of 0.47 lb/hr/HP in cruise for his 13b. So 9 gal/hr is
54 lbs/hr and divide by 0.47 lb/hr/HP is 115 HP.
The sfc at 100% power is normally lower. Probably around 0.55 lb/hr/HP. So to
make 170 HP at that sfc would take a bit over 15 gal/hr.
I searched but cant find a graph an sfc graph for a 13b.
Scott
On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:36 AM, "William Schertz" <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mazda 13-B two rotor engine, Real World Solutions (RWS) electronic fuel injection
and ignition, RWS gear reduction 2.85:1.
>
> ~150 mph cruise at 6000 - 6500 rpm (engine). Fuel burn ~ 8.5-9 G/hr at cruise,
I estimate that I am getting between 165-170 hp, but no real way to test it.
>
> Empty weight 1450
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stearns
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:13 AM
> To: kis-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
>
>
> What kind of rotary? What kind of power, speed, fuel burn, etc are you getting?
What is the empty weight
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
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> On Jan 8, 2013, at 5:46 PM, William Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I would like the list also,
>> Bill Schertz
>> 80 hours with a Mazda Rotary Engine
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> I would like to have a copy of the list. You should have my info from the old
list.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Tim N52TY (TR-1)
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
>>> To: <kis-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:23 AM
>>> Subject: KIS-List: Re: Current TR-4 Cruiser Builders
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert and other TR-4 builders and owners,
>>>>
>>>> I do not know of any other TR-4s in Texas. There was the Davis TR-4 transplanted
to Texas but that airplane is totaled out. There is a beautiful TR-1 built
by Ralph Bernhardt now owned by Ray Muse in Narogdocches, Texas.
>>>>
>>>> There were about 65 TR-4s produced, 61 or 62 by Tri-R and about 4 were produced
by Pulsar. Of the total production I can account for about 50 TR-4s so there
are about 15 yet to find.
>>>>
>>>> Robert I sent the latest version of the KIS owners and builders list to your
at&t address. If any other builders and owners want a copy of the file I will
be happy to send it along. I contains too much personal information to post
on the web.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Trickel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391802#391802
>>>>
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