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Fri 01/18/13


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 06:49 AM - Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers (mark_trickel)
     2. 07:32 AM - Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
     3. 06:50 PM - Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers (ted scott)
     4. 09:04 PM - Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers (Galin Hernandez)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:49:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers
    From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
    Ken was one of the early builders; he and his wife came to Oshkosh in 1992 to see the KIS. Ken was really ipressed with the new TR-1C that debuted that year. He had already decided on KIS but he went for a test ride and even got his wife to go for a ride too. That was a real statement because Ken needed her approval to buy the kit. You notice the serial number is KM3 - Ken was no stranger to building he had built a real nice KR-2 (#KM1). One day while fly the VW engine quit and he set it down on a farm road the best he could. He survived with only a few scratches but the KR was totaled. Ken's wife thought the KIS was a much safer design and was in favor of the KIS. He bought the kit and started right in on it with the help of his son. They worked through the winter keeping the stove going in the garage while the lay-ups cured. Unfortunately Ken was one of those builders that had severe reactions to the composites. He had some medical issues prior to building and the composites did not help the situation. He got through the reactions and in less than a year he flew mid 1993. The flowing year in 1994 Ken was the first KIS builder to fly to Oshkosh. He was one of the early adapters of the Subaru into an airplane and received calls from around the world asking about his installation. The time shown in the ad (120 hours) sounds about right. Those are all Ken's flying hours. After he sold the airplane Ken told me it probably won't fly again, and that the new owner was taking it apart to make changes. It looks like it became low priority (Nice RV in the background). Oh, I forgot the story... you might be wondering what happened to Ken's #KM2? It was a bigger kitfox type of airplane built of steel tube, his own design. He wanted to finish it so he sold his KIS for exactly what it cost out of pocket. Mark may be right about the tail, if you check under the left wing there is a patch where Ken couldn't quite hold it on the center line while landing at Oshkosh...he took out a runway light and they didn't even ask him to pay for it. I recall Ken did consult with Rich on the tail mod, you'd have to measure it for sure but the Rudder may be extended. The airplane is built well. Ken was experienced in composites but the finish is not first class. You have to keep in mind he was having reactions and couldn't afford excessive exposure time while doing the filling and finish. I'd fly it! after I put the tail back on (and a motor). Hmm I might just call! Sorry for the excessive verb age, but that is the story of the McCormick TR-1C as I know it Mark Trickel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392575#392575


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    Time: 07:32:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers
    From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
    I remember another kitplanes article a bit later in the 90's when there was a review of what people thought about their KIS TR1s where this one was again featured and he had made a statement that didnt like the shape of the vertical stabiliser which he called a "witches hat" and had changed the design . |------------> | From: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Mark Kettering <mantafs@earthlink.net> | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |kis-list@matronics.com | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |18/01/2013 01:24 | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Sent by: | |------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| I was just looking at an old Kitplanes mag (May 1994) this morning and in the completions section was this exact TR-1. At the time he said he had 50 hours. The cut down vertical worries me a little. If I recall correctly it also worried Vance. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Graham Brighton Sent: Jan 17, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers Barnstormers Add is a TR-1 ...was built by Kenneth McCormack back in 1987 ... has a cut-down tail ... had a Subaru engine .. i came across this info on the Volare 400 tribute to Rich .. Graham . From: ALFRED ROSA Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:57 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers Looks like the 2-place TR-1. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cody Austin <cody.r.austin@gmail.com> wrote: Just saw this on Barnstormers. http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_738987_KIS+CRUISER+.html N4924R - Cody et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution title="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List CTRL + Click to follow link" href=" http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List to follow link" href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only. The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its content is not permitted. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender. Please consider the environment before printing this email.


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    Time: 06:50:51 PM PST US
    From: "ted scott" <teds532@wk.net>
    Subject: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers
    ANYBODY INTERESTED IN BUYING A TR4 CRUISER WITH A LYCOMING XP360 180 HP ALL BALANCED ENGINE BUILT BY LYCOMONG AT A COST OF$30,000.00 AND A TR4 KIT ABOUT 70% COMPLETED WITH A LOT OF EXTRAS FOR $34,000.00? THIS IS THE BUY OF THE YEAR.TED SCOTT-PRICE REDUCED ABOUT $10,000.00 PHONE 731 247 5643 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kettering Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers I was just looking at an old Kitplanes mag (May 1994) this morning and in the completions section was this exact TR-1. At the time he said he had 50 hours. The cut down vertical worries me a little. If I recall correctly it also worried Vance. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Graham Brighton Sent: Jan 17, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers Barnstormers Add is a TR-1 ...was built by Kenneth McCormack back in 1987 ... has a cut-down tail ... had a Subaru engine .. i came across this info on the Volare 400 tribute to Rich .. Graham . From: ALFRED ROSA Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:57 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers Looks like the 2-place TR-1. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cody Austin <cody.r.austin@gmail.com> wrote: Just saw this on Barnstormers. http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_738987_KIS+CRUISER+.html N4924R - Cody et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution title="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List to follow link" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 09:04:54 PM PST US
    From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers
    Is this a flying TR4? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, ted scott <teds532@wk.net> wrote: > > ANYBODY INTERESTED IN BUYING A TR4 CRUISER WITH A LYCOMING XP360 180 HP > ALL BALANCED ENGINE BUILT BY LYCOMONG AT A COST OF$30,000.00 AND A TR4 KIT > ABOUT 70% COMPLETED WITH A LOT OF EXTRAS FOR $34,000.00? THIS IS THE BUY OF > THE YEAR.TED SCOTT-PRICE REDUCED ABOUT $10,000.00 PHONE 731 247 5643 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Kettering > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:22 PM > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers > > > I was just looking at an old Kitplanes mag (May 1994) this morning and in > the completions section was this exact TR-1. At the time he said he had 50 > hours. The cut down vertical worries me a little. If I recall correctly > it also worried Vance. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Graham Brighton > > Sent: Jan 17, 2013 3:55 PM > > To: kis-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on Barnstormers > > > Barnstormers Add is a TR-1 ...was built by Kenneth McCormack back in 1987 > ... has a cut-down tail ... had a Subaru engine .. i came across this info > on the Volare 400 tribute to Rich .. > > Graham > > . > > > From: ALFRED ROSA > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:57 AM > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS For Sale on > Barnstormers > > Looks like the 2-place TR-1. > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Cody Austin <cody.r.austin@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Just saw this on Barnstormers. > > http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_738987_KIS+CRUISER+.html > > N4924R > > - > Cody > > > et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > title="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > CTRL + Click to follow link" href=" > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > to follow link" href="http://forums.matronics.com"> > http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > >




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