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Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar Chapter
Sometime in 2009, Zizo Vilela made a trip to visit Pulsar in El Salvador. He wanted
to make a deal with Yaron Degani to sell 4-place Cruiser kits in Brazil.
Zizo was unable to work any kind of deal with Degani but he was able to buy one
of the last Cruisers molded in the USA by Richard. I am not sure what Degani's
business plan was, he did not want to be in the kit business but he sure courted
people along the way and he took a bunch of deposits too. The delivery record
was spotty at best, and at least one customer paid in full and received
nothing (Daniel Ioannidis of Australia).
While Degani's business plan was crumbling he never did fulfilled his obligations
to Richard. Degani never fully paid for the KIS designs, nor did he fully compensate
Richard while he was working for Degani. Richard was really stuck in
El Salvador with no way to get out. Richard made a deal with Zizo to update the
Cruiser and start a design he could market. Richard still had no money to get
out of El Salvador, so he sold Ying's car to get enough money for airline tickets
to make an escape. Richard had made a deal to sell his 2-place since Degani
had taken (stole without Rich's consent) the fuel pump off the KIS (IO-240s
notorius for fuel pump problems) and put it on the SP100, so he could not fly
the TR-1 out. The night before he left El Salvador Richard, and our own Galin
Hernnadez (working in country at the time) dragged the airplane to another
hanger.
Richard's reward for such a bold move was a lawsuit by Yaron Degani for taking
his own airplane the prototype TR-1 N93RT (along with some other trumped up charge
that Richard jeopardized Pulsar's free trade status (a crock of bull#!it).
Degani thougth somehow it belonged to him since it came down to El Slavador
in a container with other Pulsar materials loaded up by the last stateside Pulsar
employee Jojo (last name slips my mind).
Yaron Degani also sued Solly Melyon to get him out of the company back in 2005.
Richard should have realized this guy was bad news. Degani left a trail of ripped
off people. Pulsar even ripped me off for printing too.
Somehow Zizo did take delivery of the Cruiser kit and now it is just about ready
to fly. I had previously reported that there was a second Volato 400 about to
fly but it is in fact this Cruiser, not a Volato 400.
I also received confirmation from Ralf Twellmann that a Cruiser from Pulsar did
make its way to Germany, to Robert van de Sandt. The father and son project is
on hold while they are rebuilding a sailplane.
Here are some youtube links to a few cool videos of this roomy version of the KIS
Cruiser TR-4:
Volato 400 GoPro HD Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=gY7EhdIruOg&NR=1
Volato 400 air to air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q44Sy_hX0Y
Landing in a Volato 400
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZrMfNi2IJk
I thought long and hard about posting this story (more than a year) but I feel
it is important for all KIS builders and owners to known what happened with these
cool airplane designs. When Richard sold the designs to Pulsar he really thought
it was the best thing to do, and he thought the new owners would be able
to continue to support the builders and continue to develop the designs. Sadly,
that was not the case. Anytime there is information put up on the web in 30
days or less it will be picked up by the popular search engines around the world
for all to see. I stand behind this story and welcome any challenge. In the
words of Bush'42 bring it on!
Enjoy the Videos.
Mark Trickel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393994#393994
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| Subject: | Re: Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter |
2/10/2013
Hello Mark, I thank you for posting the below copied email and for keeping
the KIS legacy and flame alive. I read your email with a great deal of both
pride and sadness. Pride because I had made some small contribution to the
KIS story and sadness that the true potential of Rich's dream was not
achieved.
My wish is that all members of the KIS family can take some comfort from the
fact that they were and are a part of innovative individual pioneering
aviation history and that for many, many years -- as long as there is still
a single KIS airplane flying somewhere in the world -- we remain a living
part of that history.
OC
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From: mark_trickel
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:47 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter
Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar Chapter
Sometime in 2009, Zizo Vilela made a trip to visit Pulsar in El Salvador. He
wanted to make a deal with Yaron Degani to sell 4-place Cruiser kits in
Brazil. Zizo was unable to work any kind of deal with Degani but he was able
to buy one of the last Cruisers molded in the USA by Richard. I am not sure
what Degani's business plan was, he did not want to be in the kit business
but he sure courted people along the way and he took a bunch of deposits
too. The delivery record was spotty at best, and at least one customer paid
in full and received nothing (Daniel Ioannidis of Australia).
While Degani's business plan was crumbling he never did fulfilled his
obligations to Richard. Degani never fully paid for the KIS designs, nor did
he fully compensate Richard while he was working for Degani. Richard was
really stuck in El Salvador with no way to get out. Richard made a deal with
Zizo to update the Cruiser and start a design he could market. Richard still
had no money to get out of El Salvador, so he sold Ying's car to get enough
money for airline tickets to make an escape. Richard had made a deal to sell
his 2-place since Degani had taken (stole without Rich's consent) the fuel
pump off the KIS (IO-240s notorius for fuel pump problems) and put it on the
SP100, so he could not fly the TR-1 out. The night before he left El
Salvador Richard, and our own Galin Hernnadez (working in country at the
time) dragged the airplane to another hanger.
Richard's reward for such a bold move was a lawsuit by Yaron Degani for
taking his own airplane the prototype TR-1 N93RT (along with some other
trumped up charge that Richard jeopardized Pulsar's free trade status (a
crock of bull#!it). Degani thougth somehow it belonged to him since it came
down to El Slavador in a container with other Pulsar materials loaded up by
the last stateside Pulsar employee Jojo (last name slips my mind).
Yaron Degani also sued Solly Melyon to get him out of the company back in
2005. Richard should have realized this guy was bad news. Degani left a
trail of ripped off people. Pulsar even ripped me off for printing too.
Somehow Zizo did take delivery of the Cruiser kit and now it is just about
ready to fly. I had previously reported that there was a second Volato 400
about to fly but it is in fact this Cruiser, not a Volato 400.
I also received confirmation from Ralf Twellmann that a Cruiser from Pulsar
did make its way to Germany, to Robert van de Sandt. The father and son
project is on hold while they are rebuilding a sailplane.
Here are some youtube links to a few cool videos of this roomy version of
the KIS Cruiser TR-4:
Volato 400 GoPro HD Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=gY7EhdIruOg&NR=1
Volato 400 air to air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q44Sy_hX0Y
Landing in a Volato 400
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZrMfNi2IJk
I thought long and hard about posting this story (more than a year) but I
feel it is important for all KIS builders and owners to known what happened
with these cool airplane designs. When Richard sold the designs to Pulsar he
really thought it was the best thing to do, and he thought the new owners
would be able to continue to support the builders and continue to develop
the designs. Sadly, that was not the case. Anytime there is information put
up on the web in 30 days or less it will be picked up by the popular search
engines around the world for all to see. I stand behind this story and
welcome any challenge. In the words of Bush'42 bring it on!
Enjoy the Videos.
Mark Trickel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393994#393994
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| Subject: | Re: Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter |
Mark,=0A=0AThank you for sharing some of the details of what happen with Ri
ch and the KIS =0Aaircraft.- It is really sad that this great design had
been denied the success =0Athat it deserves.- Is there any hope that it c
an be brought back and revived?- =0A=0A=0AThanks again for you continuing
support of the builders,=0A=0ABob Reed=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________
___________=0AFrom: mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com>=0ATo: kis-list@mat
ronics.com=0ASent: Sun, February 10, 2013 3:47:29 PM=0ASubject: KIS-List: V
olato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter=0A=0A--> KIS-List message
posted by: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>=0A=0AVolato videos/Impor
tant KIS history-Pulsar Chapter=0A=0ASometime in 2009, Zizo Vilela made a t
rip to visit Pulsar in El Salvador. He =0Awanted to make a deal with Yaron
Degani to sell 4-place Cruiser kits in Brazil. =0AZizo was unable to work a
ny kind of deal with Degani but he was able to buy one =0Aof the last Cruis
ers molded in the USA by Richard. I am not sure what Degani's =0Abusiness p
lan was, he did not want to be in the kit business but he sure courted =0Ap
eople along the way and he took a bunch of deposits too. The delivery recor
d =0Awas spotty at best, and at least one customer paid in full and receive
d nothing =0A(Daniel Ioannidis of Australia).=0A=0AWhile Degani's business
plan was crumbling he never did fulfilled his =0Aobligations to Richard. De
gani never fully paid for the KIS designs, nor did he =0Afully compensate R
ichard while he was working for Degani. Richard was really =0Astuck in El S
alvador with no way to get out. Richard made a deal with Zizo to =0Aupdate
the Cruiser and start a design he could market. Richard still had no =0Amon
ey to get out of El Salvador, so he sold Ying's car to get enough money for
=0Aairline tickets to make an escape. Richard had made a deal to sell his
2-place =0Asince Degani had taken (stole without Rich's consent) the fuel p
ump off the KIS =0A(IO-240s notorius for fuel pump problems) and put it on
the SP100, so he could =0Anot fly the TR-1 out. The night before he left El
Salvador Richard, and our own =0AGalin Hernnadez (working in country at th
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d for such a bold move was a lawsuit by Yaron Degani for taking =0Ahis own
airplane the prototype TR-1 N93RT (along with some other trumped up =0Achar
ge that Richard jeopardized Pulsar's free trade status (a crock of =0Abull#
!it). Degani thougth somehow it belonged to him since it came down to El
=0ASlavador in a container with other Pulsar materials loaded up by the las
t =0Astateside Pulsar employee Jojo (last name slips my mind).=0A=0AYaron D
egani also sued Solly Melyon to get him out of the company back in 2005.
=0ARichard should have realized this guy was bad news. Degani left a trail
of =0Aripped off people. Pulsar even ripped me off for printing too.=0A=0AS
omehow Zizo did take delivery of the Cruiser kit and now it is just about r
eady =0Ato fly. I had previously reported that there was a second Volato 40
0 about to =0Afly but it is in fact this Cruiser, not a Volato 400.=0A=0AI
also received confirmation from Ralf Twellmann that a Cruiser from Pulsar d
id =0Amake its way to Germany, to Robert van de Sandt. The father and son p
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ome youtube links to a few cool videos of this roomy version of the =0AKIS
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lane designs. When Richard sold the designs to Pulsar he really =0Athought
it was the best thing to do, and he thought the new owners would be able
=0Ato continue to support the builders and continue to develop the designs.
Sadly, =0Athat was not the case. Anytime there is information put up on th
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nes around the world for =0Aall to see. I stand behind this story and welco
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| Subject: | Re: Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter |
Thank you for sharing Mark. I enjoyed my meetings with Rich and his team
when buying and building my TR-1. He is missed!
Tim N52TY
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar chapter
>
> Volato videos/Important KIS history-Pulsar Chapter
>
> Sometime in 2009, Zizo Vilela made a trip to visit Pulsar in El Salvador.
> He wanted to make a deal with Yaron Degani to sell 4-place Cruiser kits in
> Brazil. Zizo was unable to work any kind of deal with Degani but he was
> able to buy one of the last Cruisers molded in the USA by Richard. I am
> not sure what Degani's business plan was, he did not want to be in the kit
> business but he sure courted people along the way and he took a bunch of
> deposits too. The delivery record was spotty at best, and at least one
> customer paid in full and received nothing (Daniel Ioannidis of
> Australia).
>
> While Degani's business plan was crumbling he never did fulfilled his
> obligations to Richard. Degani never fully paid for the KIS designs, nor
> did he fully compensate Richard while he was working for Degani. Richard
> was really stuck in El Salvador with no way to get out. Richard made a
> deal with Zizo to update the Cruiser and start a design he could market.
> Richard still had no money to get out of El Salvador, so he sold Ying's
> car to get enough money for airline tickets to make an escape. Richard had
> made a deal to sell his 2-place since Degani had taken (stole without
> Rich's consent) the fuel pump off the KIS (IO-240s notorius for fuel pump
> problems) and put it on the SP100, so he could not fly the TR-1 out. The
> night before he left El Salvador Richard, and our own Galin Hernnadez
> (working in country at the time) dragged the airplane to another hanger.
>
> Richard's reward for such a bold move was a lawsuit by Yaron Degani for
> taking his own airplane the prototype TR-1 N93RT (along with some other
> trumped up charge that Richard jeopardized Pulsar's free trade status (a
> crock of bull#!it). Degani thougth somehow it belonged to him since it
> came down to El Slavador in a container with other Pulsar materials loaded
> up by the last stateside Pulsar employee Jojo (last name slips my mind).
>
> Yaron Degani also sued Solly Melyon to get him out of the company back in
> 2005. Richard should have realized this guy was bad news. Degani left a
> trail of ripped off people. Pulsar even ripped me off for printing too.
>
> Somehow Zizo did take delivery of the Cruiser kit and now it is just about
> ready to fly. I had previously reported that there was a second Volato 400
> about to fly but it is in fact this Cruiser, not a Volato 400.
>
> I also received confirmation from Ralf Twellmann that a Cruiser from
> Pulsar did make its way to Germany, to Robert van de Sandt. The father and
> son project is on hold while they are rebuilding a sailplane.
>
> Here are some youtube links to a few cool videos of this roomy version of
> the KIS Cruiser TR-4:
>
> Volato 400 GoPro HD Video
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=gY7EhdIruOg&NR=1
>
> Volato 400 air to air
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q44Sy_hX0Y
>
> Landing in a Volato 400
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZrMfNi2IJk
>
> I thought long and hard about posting this story (more than a year) but I
> feel it is important for all KIS builders and owners to known what
> happened with these cool airplane designs. When Richard sold the designs
> to Pulsar he really thought it was the best thing to do, and he thought
> the new owners would be able to continue to support the builders and
> continue to develop the designs. Sadly, that was not the case. Anytime
> there is information put up on the web in 30 days or less it will be
> picked up by the popular search engines around the world for all to see. I
> stand behind this story and welcome any challenge. In the words of Bush'42
> bring it on!
>
> Enjoy the Videos.
>
> Mark Trickel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393994#393994
>
>
>
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