---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/19/13: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:13 AM - Windows (ALFRED ROSA) 2. 10:21 AM - Re: center stick question (Galin Hernandez) 3. 11:36 AM - Re: AERO Contact Us (Owen Baker) 4. 12:11 PM - Re: AERO Contact Us (Owen Baker) 5. 12:52 PM - Re: Windows (Scott Stearns) 6. 04:47 PM - Re: center stick question (Graham Brighton) 7. 08:13 PM - Re: center stick question (Galin Hernandez) 8. 08:36 PM - Re: center stick question (Owen Baker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:00 AM PST US Subject: KIS-List: Windows From: ALFRED ROSA This is the response I received from my inquiry to Aircraft Windshield Co. Hello Alfred, Thank you for your inquiry. We would love to help you with your project. *KIS Cruiser TR-4 pilot side door window clear .125 $340.00 each* * * Please allow two weeks to manufacture. Most TR-4's were made in a light gray tint. Please check your original window against a white paper. The paper will allow the tint to show. We look forward to working with you. Happy Flying, ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question From: Galin Hernandez Grahm, can you post some photos of your setup? On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Graham Brighton wrote: > ** > Hi Guys, > I reworked my Stick to lighten the adjust Aileron feel .. > and to be able to have my lapboard/Ipad etc on my lap .... also nice to > have retracted for xcountry with the wing leveler engaged etc too > Bit novel but works fine fine ..! > Graham > > . > > *From:* Scott Stearns > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 4:33 AM > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com 'kis-list@matronics.com');> > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: center stick question > > Hi OC, > > Yes, but there would be a fairing running down the belly. There would be > a bellcrank under the baggage compartment floor to transition back to a > tube inside the fuselage. > > Scott > > *From:* Owen Baker 'bakerocb@cox.net');>> > *To:* kis-list@matronics.com 'kis-list@matronics.com');>; sstearns2@yahoo.com 'cvml', 'sstearns2@yahoo.com');> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:28 AM > *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: center stick question > > > > > 4/18/2013 > > Hello Scott, You wrote: ".... we may run the forward pitch tube under the > fuselage to open up as much interior space as possible." > > Do you mean actually outside the bottom of the fuselage exposed to the air > flow and elements? > > OC > > ============================== > > From: Scott Stearns > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:25 PM > To: kis-list@matronics.com 'kis-list@matronics.com');> > Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question > > > > > I went with a center stick on my TR-1. It is very comfortable to fly with > your fore arm resting on the center console and not have the stick between > your legs, and your passengers legs, makes long trips a lot better. I love > being able to fly with my iPad or my lunch in my lap. > > The Cruiser Mark K and I are building will have a center stick and we may > run the forward pitch tube under the fuselage to open up as much interior > space as possible. > > Like OC said the big concideration is that only your right hand can reach > the controls so you need to be able to operate the radios, flaps, lights, > etc with your left hand so those controls need to be on the left side of > the panel. > > There is a picture of my panel on Bob Reeds site showing the switches and > autopilot on the far left of the panel and the Garmin 430 on the > center-left. Works great. > > I can send picture of my center stick mechanism if anyone would like to > see sp; - List Contribution Web Site - > _; &nbs================ > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:28 AM PST US From: "Owen Baker " Subject: KIS-List: Re: AERO Contact Us 4/19/2013 Hello Jackie, Thank you for your response copied below. So if I want to purchase a plain 635796 (no-E) Continental Motors alternator coupler what would be that price and availability? Thank you, Owen C. Baker ======================= From: Jacqueline S. Vargaz Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:28 AM Cc: Ben McNamara Subject: RE: AERO Contact Us Hello Owen, The only difference is the price and the =93E requires a core to be returned. In stock we have the 635796-E for price of $999.60 and additional core charge of $50.00. Let me know if I can get one shipped today. Thanks, Jackie Vargaz A.E.R.O. Inc. www.aeroinstock.com 3701 Hwy 162 Granite City, IL 62040 618-797-6630 ext 233 800-362-3044 ext 233 618-931-0190 (fax) From: Ben McNamara Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:22 PM Subject: Fwd: AERO Contact Us Sent from my iPhone ===== Begin forwarded message: From: Date: April 18, 2013, 4:52:01 PM CDT To: info@aeroinstock.com, ben@a-e-r-o.com Subject: AERO Contact Us Name: OWEN C BAKER Address: 5238 NOTTINGHILL LANE City: FAIRFAX State: VA Zip Code: 22032-2622 Phone: 703-425-4670 E-mail: BAKEROCB@COX.NET Fax: Send me more information about: Hello Sir, Can you please tell me the difference in the coupling 635796 and the coupling 635796-E. Thank you ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:17 PM PST US From: "Owen Baker " Subject: KIS-List: Re: AERO Contact Us 4/19/2013 Thank you Jackie, My engine is approaching the number of hours where many of my pilot friends have experienced failure of that Continental Motors alternator coupling. I will watch carefully for signs of failure and get back to you for purchase =93 many thanks. Owen C. Baker ================ From: Jacqueline S. Vargaz Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 2:37 PM Subject: RE: AERO Contact Us $2060.85.3 weeks.we are not stocking these units because we get a much better price with our AIR BOSS program. Jackie Vargaz A.E.R.O. Inc. www.aeroinstock.com 3701 Hwy 162 Granite City, IL 62040 618-797-6630 ext 233 800-362-3044 ext 233 618-931-0190 (fax) From: Owen Baker [mailto:bakerocb@cox.net] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: AERO Contact Us 4/19/2013 Hello Jackie, Thank you for your response copied below. So if I want to purchase a plain 635796 (no-E) Continental Motors alternator coupler what would be that price and availability? Thank you, Owen C. Baker ======================= From: Jacqueline S. Vargaz Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:28 AM Cc: Ben McNamara Subject: RE: AERO Contact Us Hello Owen, The only difference is the price and the =93E requires a core to be returned. In stock we have the 635796-E for price of $999.60 and additional core charge of $50.00. Let me know if I can get one shipped today. Thanks, Jackie Vargaz ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: Windows From: Scott Stearns Ouch! At least they are still available.... On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:12 AM, ALFRED ROSA wrote: > This is the response I received from my inquiry to Aircraft Windshield Co. > > > > Hello Alfred, > > Thank you for your inquiry. We would love to help you with your project. > > KIS Cruiser TR-4 pilot side door window clear .125 $340.00 each > > Please allow two weeks to manufacture. Most TR-4's were made in a light g ray tint. Please check your original window against a white paper. The pap er will allow the tint to show. > > We look forward to working with you. > > Happy Flying, > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question From: Graham Brighton G'day Galin, Actually I attached a couple pics with my post ..... C an resend later when I get hm if u haven't received ... just a simple 'twist lock' telescope setup ... Haven't figured how to balance elevator feel thou gh ... Luv to hear if anyone has a fix for that ... ?? Graham Sent from my iPad On 20/04/2013, at 3:20 AM, Galin Hernandez wrote: > Grahm, can you post some photos of your setup? > > On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Graham Brighton wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> I reworked my Stick to lighten and adjust Aileron feel . . and to be able to have my lapboard/Ipad etc on my lap .... also nice to ha ve retracted for xcountry with the wing leveller engaged tracking gps trac k etc too >> Bit novel but works fine ..! >> Graham >> >> . >> >> From: Scott Stearns >> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:33 AM >> To: kis-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> Hi OC, >> >> Yes, but there would be a fairing running down the belly. There would be a bellcrank under the baggage compartment floor to transition back to a tub e inside the fuselage. >> >> Scott >> >> From: Owen Baker >> To: kis-list@matronics.com; sstearns2@yahoo.com >> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:28 AM >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> >> 4/18/2013 >> >> Hello Scott, You wrote: ".... we may run the forward pitch tube under the fuselage to open up as much interior space as possible." >> >> Do you mean actually outside the bottom of the fuselage exposed to the ai r flow and elements? >> >> OC >> >> ========================= ===== >> >> From: Scott Stearns >> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:25 PM >> To: kis-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> >> I went with a center stick on my TR-1. It is very comfortable to fly wit h your fore arm resting on the center console and not have the stick between your legs, and your passengers legs, makes long trips a lot better. I love being able to fly with my iPad or my lunch in my lap. >> >> The Cruiser Mark K and I are building will have a center stick and we may run the forward pitch tube under the fuselage to open up as much interior s pace as possible. >> >> Like OC said the big concideration is that only your right hand can reach the controls so you need to be able to operate the radios, flaps, lights, e tc with your left hand so those controls need to be on the left side of the p anel. >> >> There is a picture of my panel on Bob Reeds site showing the switches and autopilot on the far left of the panel and the Garmin 430 on the center-lef t. Works great. >> >> I can send picture of my center stick mechanism if anyone would like to s ee sp; - List Contribution Web Site - >> _; &nbs=============== = >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?KIS-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:44 PM PST US From: Galin Hernandez Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question THANKS! I was viewing the e-mail on my iPad so I didn't see the attached pics. :O) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Graham Brighton wrote: > G'day Galin, > Actually I attached a couple pics with my post > ..... Can resend later when I get hm if u haven't received ... just a > simple 'twist lock' telescope setup ... Haven't figured how to balance > elevator feel though ... Luv to hear if anyone has a fix for that ... ?? > Graham > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20/04/2013, at 3:20 AM, Galin Hernandez wrote: > > Grahm, can you post some photos of your setup? > > On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Graham Brighton wrote: > >> ** >> Hi Guys, >> I reworked my Stick to lighten and adjust Aileron feel >> .. and to be able to have my lapboard/Ipad etc on my lap .... also nice to >> have retracted for xcountry with the wing leveller engaged tracking gps >> track etc too >> Bit novel but works fine ..! >> Graham >> >> . >> >> *From:* Scott Stearns >> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 4:33 AM >> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> Hi OC, >> >> Yes, but there would be a fairing running down the belly. There would be >> a bellcrank under the baggage compartment floor to transition back to a >> tube inside the fuselage. >> >> Scott >> >> *From:* Owen Baker >> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com; sstearns2@yahoo.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:28 AM >> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> >> 4/18/2013 >> >> Hello Scott, You wrote: ".... we may run the forward pitch tube under the >> fuselage to open up as much interior space as possible." >> >> Do you mean actually outside the bottom of the fuselage exposed to the >> air flow and elements? >> >> OC >> >> ============================== >> >> From: Scott Stearns >> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:25 PM >> To: kis-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question >> >> >> I went with a center stick on my TR-1. It is very comfortable to fly >> with your fore arm resting on the center console and not have the stick >> between your legs, and your passengers legs, makes long trips a lot >> better. I love being able to fly with my iPad or my lunch in my lap. >> >> The Cruiser Mark K and I are building will have a center stick and we may >> run the forward pitch tube under the fuselage to open up as much interior >> space as possible. >> >> Like OC said the big concideration is that only your right hand can reach >> the controls so you need to be able to operate the radios, flaps, lights, >> etc with your left hand so those controls need to be on the left side of >> the panel. >> >> There is a picture of my panel on Bob Reeds site showing the switches and >> autopilot on the far left of the panel and the Garmin 430 on the >> center-left. Works great. >> >> I can send picture of my center stick mechanism if anyone would like to >> see sp; - List Contribution Web Site - >> _; &nbs================ >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* >> >> * > > ================================== > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > ===================================cs.com > ===================================matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:39 PM PST US From: "Owen Baker " Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question 4/19/2013 Hello Graham, You wrote: =9CHaven't figured how to balance elevator feel though ... Luv to hear if anyone has a fix for that ... ??=9D What sort of balancing is needed for KIS TR-1 elevator feel? Thanks, OC 'O C' Baker says "The best investment you can make is the effort to gather and understand information." ============ From: Graham Brighton Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:46 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: center stick question G'day Galin, Actually I attached a couple pics with my post ..... Can resend later when I get hm if u haven't received ... just a simple 'twist lock' telescope setup ... Haven't figured how to balance elevator feel though ... Luv to hear if anyone has a fix for that ... ?? 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