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1. 08:16 AM - Flight Hours Since New? (Galin Hernandez)
2. 09:02 AM - Re: Flight Hours Since New? (Alfred Rosa)
3. 09:43 AM - Re: Flight Hours Since New? (Robert Reed)
4. 10:32 AM - Re: Flight Hours Since New? (Scott Stearns)
5. 02:33 PM - Horizontal Tail Span (fasilpereira)
6. 02:37 PM - Re: KIS Cruiser Crating (fasilpereira)
7. 04:25 PM - Closing the fuselage (Mike Pienaar)
8. 06:15 PM - Re: Closing the fuselage (Robert Reed)
9. 06:23 PM - Re: Horizontal Tail Span (Mark Kettering)
10. 06:46 PM - Re: Horizontal Tail Span (Scott Stearns)
11. 09:15 PM - Re: Closing the fuselage (Mike Pienaar)
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Subject: | Flight Hours Since New? |
As I approach the 1,000hr point on my KIS4, I was wondering who else
has 1,000 or more flight hours on their KIS airplane? AND this begs the
question, who has the most flight hours on their KIS1 or KIS4?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Galin
947Hrs and counting.
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Subject: | Re: Flight Hours Since New? |
I can tell you who has the least.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I approach the 1,000hr point on my KIS4, I was wondering who else has 1
,000 or more flight hours on their KIS airplane? AND this begs the question,
who has the most flight hours on their KIS1 or KIS4?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Galin
> 947Hrs and counting.
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight Hours Since New? |
There is a tie for category Al but I am working my arms off trying to break t
he tie. Literally working my arms off, sanding, sanding, and more sanding.
Bob Reed
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I can tell you who has the least.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As I approach the 1,000hr point on my KIS4, I was wondering who else has 1
,000 or more flight hours on their KIS airplane? AND this begs the question,
who has the most flight hours on their KIS1 or KIS4?
>>
>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>> Galin
>> 947Hrs and counting.
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight Hours Since New? |
I was kind of impressed with my Tr-1 pushing 200 hours. 1000 hours must be t
he highest time. I dont think the factory airplanes even approached 1000 ho
urs.
Scott
On Sep 22, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I approach the 1,000hr point on my KIS4, I was wondering who else has 1
,000 or more flight hours on their KIS airplane? AND this begs the question,
who has the most flight hours on their KIS1 or KIS4?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Galin
> 947Hrs and counting.
>
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Subject: | Horizontal Tail Span |
I've just noticed that the Kit that I've bought from Ted has the old horizontal
tail, with span of 8ft 9in.
Does anybody knows what has drived the increase on the horizontal tail?
For those that have flown both version (if there is anybody that had the opportunity),
does it makes any difference?
I'm thinking if it is worth to increase my aircraft tail span, since I'm still
on the initial building process....
Thanks,
Fabricio
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Fabricio Pereira
Engineer / Pilot
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409005#409005
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Subject: | Re: KIS Cruiser Crating |
Bob, I hope too...
The Container arrived on the port of Santos on September 19th.
It will probably arrive here in one or maybe two weeks.
Fabricio
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Fabricio Pereira
Engineer / Pilot
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409006#409006
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Subject: | Closing the fuselage |
Hi Bob
I see in the foto's of your exhaust that you have closed the fuselage.
How far have you progressed on the interior?
I am holding off closing the fusealge till I have done as much as
possible on the interior and I'm busy with the wiring now,
would hate to have done it with the fuselage closed but not closing the
fuselage delays other items. Always a difficult compromise
Good luck
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust
Mark,
A very nice looking Cruiser and it looks like I won't be the next one
flying after all.
Oh well, progress is progress and I am inching along.
Bob Reed
From: mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:27 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust
Wow, that sure does look pretty. One more step to completion checked
off the list. Here=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s a little inspiration I found
last week:
http://eaa104.org/documents/NL0913.pdf
Check page 6 of this chapter newsletter. I had this one as flying but
it is not. Apparently in the eyes of some States if it is registered at
the FAA it is flyable, and they are entitled to sales tax, and yearly
registration fees (unlike the project car I have). In the paper work for
my airplane is a stack of yearly Minnesota registration receipts. In 18
years the thing never left the hanger. Looks like Ed Hanson will be
flying by years end.
Mark T.
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Closing the fuselage |
Mike,=0A=C2-=0AThis is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't
situations.=C2- Most of my interior is in the final, awaiting installati
on stage with the key exception of the electrical systems.=C2- I had been
planning to do all the electrical possible before closing out the top but
decided I would be better off to concentrate on completing ALL the glass an
d epoxy work during the summer and fall while I had warm weather.=C2- Pri
mary reason being that I wanted to be ready to prime and paint as soon as c
ool wet weather allows it.=C2- A second reason being there is no way I wa
nt to be working inside the fuselage when it is 90 to 100 degrees.=C2- I
can work the electrical in cool weather a lot easier than hot.=0A=C2-=0AI
have installed hard mounting points for most of the interior plumbing and
electrical.=C2- The brake lines are all in as well.=C2- I will be mount
ing the two batteries (Oddessy PC680) on either side of the center console
with the master, starter, and crossover relays in the same area under the f
ront seats.=C2- The voltage regulators will also be in the same area.=C2
- It makes use of a dead area that can't really=C2-be used for anything
else since I am using adjustable seats and rails.=C2- =0A=C2-=0AOh, I
have also done paper patterns for all of the upholstry and the seats have a
ll been done.=0A=C2-=0ABob=C2- =0A=0A________________________________
=0A From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com =0A
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:25 PM=0ASubject: KIS-List: Closing the f
uselage=0A =0A=0A=0A=EF=BB =0AHi Bob =0A=C2- =0AI see in the foto's
of your exhaust that you have =0Aclosed the fuselage. How far have you prog
ressed on the interior? =0A=C2- =0AI am holding off closing the fusealge
till I have =0Adone as much as possible on the interior and I'm busy with t
he wiring =0Anow, =0Awould hate to have done it with the fuselage closed
=0Abut not closing the fuselage delays other items. Always a difficult =0Ac
ompromise =0A=C2- =0AGood luck =0A=C2- =0AMike =0A----- Original Messag
e ----- =0A>From: Robert Reed =0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: T
uesday, September 17, 2013 8:09 AM =0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Trial Fi
t of 4 into 1 Exhaust =0A>=0A> =0A>Mark, =0A>=C2- =0A>A very nice lookin
g Cruiser and it looks like I won't be the next one flying after all.=C2
- =0A>=C2- =0A>Oh well, progress is progress and I am inching along.
=0A>=C2- =0A>Bob Reed =0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>________________________________
=0A>From: mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com>=0A>To: kis-list@matronics.c
om =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:27 AM=0A>Subject: KIS-List: Re:
=0A "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>=0A>=0A>Wow, =0A that sure doe
s look pretty. One more step to completion checked off the list. =0A Here
=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s a little inspiration I found last =0A week:=0A>
=0A>http://eaa104.org/documents/NL0913.pdf=0A>=0A>Check page 6 of =0A this
chapter newsletter. I had this one as flying but it is not. Apparently in
=0A the eyes of some States if it is registered at the FAA it is flyable,
and they =0A are entitled to sales tax, and yearly registration fees (unli
ke the project =0A car I have). In the paper work for my airplane is a sta
ck of yearly Minnesota =0A registration receipts. In 18 years the thing ne
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=0A>=0A>Mark T.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read =0A this topic online =0A here:
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Subject: | Re: Horizontal Tail Span |
Hello Fabricio,
I think all of the TR-4's have a 8'9" span horizontal tail. What some people do
and I highly recommend is increasing the cord on the elevator. This is critical
on the TR-1 and important on the TR-4.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
>From: fasilpereira <fasilpereira@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 22, 2013 5:33 PM
>To: kis-list@matronics.com
>Subject: KIS-List: Horizontal Tail Span
>
>
>I've just noticed that the Kit that I've bought from Ted has the old horizontal
tail, with span of 8ft 9in.
>Does anybody knows what has drived the increase on the horizontal tail?
>For those that have flown both version (if there is anybody that had the opportunity),
does it makes any difference?
>I'm thinking if it is worth to increase my aircraft tail span, since I'm still
on the initial building process....
>Thanks,
>
>Fabricio
>
>--------
>Fabricio Pereira
>Engineer / Pilot
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409005#409005
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Horizontal Tail Span |
There were two sizes of horizontal tail? I never heard that there was two sizes
of tail. Maybe you are thinking of the elevator extension on the two seat
KIS?
Scott
On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:33 AM, "fasilpereira" <fasilpereira@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've just noticed that the Kit that I've bought from Ted has the old horizontal
tail, with span of 8ft 9in.
> Does anybody knows what has drived the increase on the horizontal tail?
> For those that have flown both version (if there is anybody that had the opportunity),
does it makes any difference?
> I'm thinking if it is worth to increase my aircraft tail span, since I'm still
on the initial building process....
> Thanks,
>
> Fabricio
>
> --------
> Fabricio Pereira
> Engineer / Pilot
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409005#409005
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Closing the fuselage |
Bob,
Thanks for your input, I have exactly the opposite problem to you, I
wanted to get the painting done before the wet and cold set in but I
also wanted to finish the inside of the fuselage as much as possible.
Achieved neither during summer.
Will post foto's of my progress soon.
Keep well
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Closing the fuselage
Mike,
This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations.
Most of my interior is in the final, awaiting installation stage with
the key exception of the electrical systems. I had been planning to do
all the electrical possible before closing out the top but decided I
would be better off to concentrate on completing ALL the glass and epoxy
work during the summer and fall while I had warm weather. Primary
reason being that I wanted to be ready to prime and paint as soon as
cool wet weather allows it. A second reason being there is no way I
want to be working inside the fuselage when it is 90 to 100 degrees. I
can work the electrical in cool weather a lot easier than hot.
I have installed hard mounting points for most of the interior
plumbing and electrical. The brake lines are all in as well. I will be
mounting the two batteries (Oddessy PC680) on either side of the center
console with the master, starter, and crossover relays in the same area
under the front seats. The voltage regulators will also be in the same
area. It makes use of a dead area that can't really be used for
anything else since I am using adjustable seats and rails.
Oh, I have also done paper patterns for all of the upholstry and the
seats have all been done.
Bob
From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Closing the fuselage
=EF=BB
Hi Bob
I see in the foto's of your exhaust that you have closed the fuselage.
How far have you progressed on the interior?
I am holding off closing the fusealge till I have done as much as
possible on the interior and I'm busy with the wiring now,
would hate to have done it with the fuselage closed but not closing
the fuselage delays other items. Always a difficult compromise
Good luck
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Reed
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust
Mark,
A very nice looking Cruiser and it looks like I won't be the next
one flying after all.
Oh well, progress is progress and I am inching along.
Bob Reed
From: mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com>
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:27 AM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust
<marktrickel@gmail.com>
Wow, that sure does look pretty. One more step to completion checked
off the list. Here=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s a little inspiration I found
last week:
http://eaa104.org/documents/NL0913.pdf
Check page 6 of this chapter newsletter. I had this one as flying
but it is not. Apparently in the eyes of some States if it is registered
at the FAA it is flyable, and they are entitled to sales tax, and yearly
registration fees (unlike the project car I have). In the paper work for
my airplane is a stack of yearly Minnesota registration receipts. In 18
years the thing never left the hanger. Looks like Ed Hanson will be
flying by years end.
Mark T.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408727#408727
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