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1. 06:49 AM - Re: Gas Struts TR-4 (Mike Pienaar)
2. 07:13 AM - Re: Gas Struts TR-4 (Robert Reed)
3. 02:52 PM - Re: Gas Struts TR-4 (Kent Pyle)
4. 10:19 PM - Re: Gas Struts TR-4 (Scott Stearns)
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Subject: | Re: Gas Struts TR-4 |
Thanks Tim, I'n not sure if I want to play with pressures in that
range!!!!!! I will look for an alternative and keep that as a measure
of last resort.
Thanks for the help
Mike
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From: Tim Yoder
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
My bottle doesn't have a gauge and when it is full I think it is less
than 2000#.
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[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:47 PM
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
Tim,
Thanks for you reply, what pressure do you push the nitrogen up to?
Thanks
Mike
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From: Tim Yoder
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
I did that for my TR-1 struts. I got a steel pipe, 1 1/2" ID I
think, long enough to hold the strut, capped both ends, you have to seal
the threads, drill and tap one cap for a Schrader valve. insert the
struts and fill the tube with Nitrogen. I was able to fit four of my
struts in my tube. The original rating was 25 lbs. and with the refill
they came out at 40 lbs and work much better and last for years.
Tim N52TY
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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM
To: KISBUILDERS
Subject: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
Hi All,
Does any body have the specs or the name of the manufacturer for the
gas struts that came with the TR-4 to hold the doors open, I wiped my
struts with acetone and that took off all the markings
I installed my brackets to conform with the origal struts but they
are too weak and I cannot find replacement struts have the same overall
length.
Sometime ago there was a mention of a method to recharge the struts
and if somebody could point me in that direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Gas Struts TR-4 |
-=0AI don't feel like I have much room to give anyone advice on anything
since I have yet to finish my project but my take on the door struts is pur
ely one based on observation and a bit of common sense.- The doors on bot
h the 2 and 4 place aircraft are rather large and from a pure strength stan
dpoint rather flimsy out of necessity to reduce weight.- Having a single
strut on only one side of the door, especially one with increased pressure
would be putting a constant twisting strain on the door structure each time
it is closed.- Additionally, when open a gust of wind would-put the sa
me or even worse twisting strain on the door.- This is why my plan has al
ways been to include two gas struts on each door.- They are not expensive
and the added weight is minor.=0A-=0AWaiting for life to get out of the
way,=0A-=0ABob Reed=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Mike
Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesda
y, May 21, 2014 8:49 AM=0ASubject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A=0A=0A
=0AThanks Tim, I'n not sure if I want to play with pressures in that range!
!!!!!- I will look for an alternative and keep that as a measure of last
resort.=0A-=0AThanks for the help=0A-=0AMike=0A----- Original Message -
---- =0A>From: Tim Yoder =0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Friday, M
ay 16, 2014 4:53 AM=0A>Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A>=0A>=0A>My
bottle doesn't have a gauge and when it is full I think it is less than 20
00#.=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>From: owner-kis-list-se
rver@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf O
f Mike Pienaar=0A>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:47 PM=0A>To: kis-list@matr
onics.com=0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A>=0A>=0A>Tim,=0A>-
=0A>Thanks for you reply, what pressure do you push the nitrogen up to?=0A>
-=0A>Thanks=0A>-=0A>Mike=0A>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>From: Tim
Yoder =0A>>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:
32 PM=0A>>Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I did that f
or my TR-1 struts. I got a steel pipe, 1 1/2" ID I think, long enough to ho
ld the strut, capped both ends, you have to seal the threads, drill and tap
one cap for a Schrader valve. insert the struts and fill the tube with-N
itrogen. I was able to fit four of my struts in my tube. The original ratin
g was 25 lbs. and with the refill they came out at 40 lbs and work much bet
ter and last for years.=0A>>-=0A>>Tim N52TY=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>_______________
_________________=0A>>From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:own
er-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar=0A>>Sent: Thurs
day, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM=0A>>To: KISBUILDERS=0A>>Subject: KIS-List: Gas St
ruts TR-4=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hi All,=0A>>-=0A>>Does any body have the specs or
the name of the manufacturer for the gas struts that came with the TR-4 to
hold the doors open, I wiped my struts with acetone and that took off all
the markings=0A>>-=0A>>I installed my brackets to conform with the origal
struts but they are too weak and I cannot find replacement struts have the
same overall length.=0A>>-=0A>>Sometime ago there was a mention of a met
hod to recharge the struts and if somebody could point me in that direction
I would appreciate it.=0A>>-=0A>>Thanks=0A>>-=0A>>Mike=0A>>://www.matr
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Subject: | Re: Gas Struts TR-4 |
I too used two gas struts for each door and for the same reasoning.
Kent
From: Robert Reed
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
I don't feel like I have much room to give anyone advice on anything
since I have yet to finish my project but my take on the door struts is
purely one based on observation and a bit of common sense. The doors on
both the 2 and 4 place aircraft are rather large and from a pure
strength standpoint rather flimsy out of necessity to reduce weight.
Having a single strut on only one side of the door, especially one with
increased pressure would be putting a constant twisting strain on the
door structure each time it is closed. Additionally, when open a gust
of wind would put the same or even worse twisting strain on the door.
This is why my plan has always been to include two gas struts on each
door. They are not expensive and the added weight is minor.
Waiting for life to get out of the way,
Bob Reed
From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
Thanks Tim, I'n not sure if I want to play with pressures in that
range!!!!!! I will look for an alternative and keep that as a measure
of last resort.
Thanks for the help
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Yoder
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
My bottle doesn't have a gauge and when it is full I think it is less
than 2000#.
From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:47 PM
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
Tim,
Thanks for you reply, what pressure do you push the nitrogen up to?
Thanks
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Yoder
To: kis-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
I did that for my TR-1 struts. I got a steel pipe, 1 1/2" ID I
think, long enough to hold the strut, capped both ends, you have to seal
the threads, drill and tap one cap for a Schrader valve. insert the
struts and fill the tube with Nitrogen. I was able to fit four of my
struts in my tube. The original rating was 25 lbs. and with the refill
they came out at 40 lbs and work much better and last for years.
Tim N52TY
From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM
To: KISBUILDERS
Subject: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4
Hi All,
Does any body have the specs or the name of the manufacturer for the
gas struts that came with the TR-4 to hold the doors open, I wiped my
struts with acetone and that took off all the markings
I installed my brackets to conform with the origal struts but they
are too weak and I cannot find replacement struts have the same overall
length.
Sometime ago there was a mention of a method to recharge the struts
and if somebody could point me in that direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Gas Struts TR-4 |
Be sure to bodywork the doors with the gas struts attached. -They flex th
e door a little. -Putting a pair of lower force struts on each door is my
plan for the cruiser. -=0A=0AScott=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:
55 PM, Kent Pyle <kentpyle@iland.net> wrote:=0A =0AI too used two gas strut
s for each door and for the same reasoning.- =0AKent-=0AFrom: Robert Re
ed =0ASent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:13 AM=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com
=0ASubject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A- -=0AI don't feel like I h
ave much room to give anyone advice on =0Aanything since I have yet to fini
sh my project but my take on the door struts is =0Apurely one based on obse
rvation and a bit of common sense.- The doors on =0Aboth the 2 and 4 plac
e aircraft are rather large and from a pure strength =0Astandpoint rather f
limsy out of necessity to reduce weight.- Having a =0Asingle strut on onl
y one side of the door, especially one with increased =0Apressure would be
putting a constant twisting strain on the door structure each =0Atime it is
closed.- Additionally, when open a gust of wind would put the =0Asame or
even worse twisting strain on the door.- This is why my plan has =0Aalwa
ys been to include two gas struts on each door.- They are not expensive
=0Aand the added weight is minor.=0A-=0AWaiting for life to get out of th
e way,=0A-=0ABob Reed=0A-=0AFrom: Mike Pienaar =0A<mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
=0ATo: kis-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:49 AM=0ASu
bject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts =0ATR-4=0A=0A-=0AThanks Tim, I'n not sure
if I want to play with =0Apressures in that range!!!!!!- I will look for
an alternative and keep that =0Aas a measure of last resort.=0A-=0AThank
s for the help=0A-=0AMike=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: Tim Yo
der =0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:53 AM
=0A>Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A>-=0A>My bottle doesn't hav
e a gauge and when it is full I think it is less than 2000#.=0A>-=0A>Fro
m: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matron
ics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar=0A>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:47 PM
=0A>To: kis-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A
>=0A>=0A>Tim,=0A>-=0A>Thanks for you reply, what pressure do you push th
e nitrogen up to?=0A>-=0A>Thanks=0A>-=0A>Mike=0A>----- Original Message
----- =0A>>From: Tim Yoder =0A>>To: kis-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Thu
rsday, May 15, 2014 9:32 PM=0A>>Subject: RE: KIS-List: Gas Struts TR-4=0A
>>-=0A>>I did that for my TR-1 struts. I got a steel pipe, 1 1/2" ID I t
hink, long enough to hold the strut, capped both ends, you have to seal th
e threads, drill and tap one cap for a Schrader valve. insert the struts a
nd fill the tube with Nitrogen. I was able to fit four of my struts in my
tube. The original rating was 25 lbs. and with the refill they came out at
40 lbs and work much better and last for years.=0A>>-=0A>>Tim N52TY=0A>
>-=0A>>From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Pienaar=0A>>Sent: Thursday, May 15
, 2014 9:04 PM=0A>>To: KISBUILDERS=0A>>Subject: KIS-List: Gas Struts =0ATR-
4=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hi All,=0A>>-=0A>>Does any body have the specs or the nam
e of the manufacturer for the gas struts that came with the TR-4 to hold t
he doors open, I wiped my struts with acetone and that took off all the m
arkings=0A>>-=0A>>I installed my brackets to conform with the origal str
uts but they are too weak and I cannot find replacement struts have the sa
me overall length.=0A>>-=0A>>Sometime ago there was a mention of a method
to recharge the struts and if somebody could point me in that direction I
would appreciate it.=0A>>-=0A>>Thanks=0A>>-=0A>>Mike=0A>>://www.matro
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