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1. 05:19 AM - Re: Fuel Level Sender - Bob Reed (gbrighton@skymesh.com.au)
2. 05:26 AM - Re: KIS Update =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A2=82=AC=9C SNF?= =?UTF-8?Q? Reunion/CA TR-=31 Flies/French KIS!? (gbrighton@skymesh.com.au)
3. 06:04 PM - Re: Fuel Level Sender - Bob Reed (Scott Stearns)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Level Sender - Bob Reed |
G'Day Scott Ana All,
I have had a dead fuel gauge on one side since I purchased my TR1 ....
Traced the fault the the Head or the bent in Tank Tube ... It's the
early low vlt capacitance model .... With the bend the unit can't be
replaced normally .. So is a headache I haven't solved as yet .. The
other side works fine ..,
Scott,
Interested in ur Carbon Fibre project ... I have a Quickie TRI
gear ... That I'm looking at using to rebuild into a light weight
version ... , wondering if u have added Lightening Protection or not ..
If so how ..., and are u doing Hand Lay ups .. Or using prepreg material
or or ..?
Cheers
Graham
n 30.05.2014 02:06, Scott Stearns wrote:
> I put the fuel senders in from the wingtip on both my TR-1 and the
> TR-4 project. You can custom order senders up to around 10 feet and
> it
> is not much extra. I put them in at an angle looking from the wing
> leading edge so they enter near the top of the wing root rib and the
> tip of the sender is just above the lower wing skin at or near the
> wing root rib. No need to bend the tube. The senders work great on my
> TR-1, very linear, and the senders are removable out of the wingtip.
> I
> used the newer princeton senders that just use a pipe theard fitting
> and a separate box for the electronics. I highly recommend it, much
> easier install. Also, the newer "glass" avionics needs the newer 0-5V
> output.
>
> Cheers,
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:04 AM, fasilpereira
> <fasilpereira@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <fasilpereira@hotmail.com [1]>
>
> Bob,
>
> I noticed that you've cut the capacitive fuel level sender in order
> to
> install it on the wing due to cracks on the sender tubing after
> bending.
>
> My sender was installed on the inboard wing rib, but on the upper
> part
> of the rib. Ted installed it bent up on the inboard part of the wing
> and pointing down toward the wing tip. This setup will not provide
> good measurements and I'm thinking on changing that.
> To correct this issue I'm thinking on cutting the sender as you did,
> since there is not enough bendable lengh to bend the sensor down so
> that it touches the bottom of the wing skin.
>
> Did you tested your setup? Did it worked properly? What is the brand
> and the model of your sender?
>
> P.S.: I tried to see the pictures of your wing leak test but the link
> seem to be broken
>
> --------
> Fabricio Pereira
> Engineer / Pilot
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423962#423962 [2]
>
> http://forums.matronics.cosp; -nics.com/contribution"
> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut==============
>
>
> Links:
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> [1] mailto:fasilpereira@hotmail.com
> [2] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423962#423962
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| Subject: | Re: KIS Update =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A2=82=AC=9C SNF?= =?UTF-8?Q? Reunion/CA |
TR-=31 Flies/French KIS!?
G'day Mark,
Thanks for post and info ..,
Graham
> <marktrickel@gmail.com>
>
> I delayed in posting this information as I have been real busy
> working on my KIS every single day. After one of the coldest, and
> snowiest winters I can ever remember I got the bug for warm weather
> and rode down to SNF for a little sunshine, and airplanes. I also
> stopped by Galins hanger for a close look at his real nice TR-4.
> His craft sports a clear coated white pearl finish, leather
> upholstery, and an IFR glass panel. We had a small KIS reunion on
> Saturday. In the attached photo left to right are: myself, KIS
> engineer Mark Kettering, world class Cruiser pilot Galin Hernandez,
> and Al Rosa. In the foreground is Marks Aeromonetum 1.3 liter
> 100hp
> conversion. Mark also had a 1.5 liter 117hp version.
>
> My latest searches for KIS aircraft turned up a few interesting
> finds. Posted on YouTube is a TR-1 Go-Pro cockpit view of a first
> flight. I dont know any details about this aircraft other than
> what
> is shown. It appears to have a Continental cowling, and I believe the
> builders name is Robert Wallach and the airplane is based in
> Riverside, CA. I also believe that Robert as not the original kit
> owner as he appears to be a bit young. Congratulations Robert on a
> job
> well done. I posted an invite on his video to come to our forum so we
> can get a few more details on this build. I also sent information
> about this builder to Richs daughter Nancy to see if she could
> locate him, she lives 15 minutes from the Riverside airport.
> Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtPj-MA84c
>
> Another search turned up of all things a French KIS, yes thats
> right! The only other information Ive been able to find is that it
> is kit #34. I dont recall Rich ever mentioning a KIS in France.
> This kit may have been sold by UK dealer Brian Davies, and it would
> have been delivered in late 1992 or early 1993. Robert R. check out
> the intake scoop on this one, I think you may have been on to
> something when you were formulating yours. Picture Attached
>
> Another tidbit showed upYou all may remember this guy Barry bought
> the Kindig TR-1 from Jerry Conners not too long ago well I guess
> it was more of a project than he wanted to deal with the airplane was
> listed at Barnstormers, and eBay, it sold in May, for a ridiculously
> low price - I believe it was around $13,000. Barry had the airplane
> apart, and was ready to install all new windows. The aircraft has a
> new registration number. The ad mentioned that he was going
> certified.
> I hope the new owner drops by the forum for the wealth of knowledge
> that is still here.
>
> Moving onwell KIS fans may recall TR-1 240X, it was for sale
> forever, and it was finally bought by Ron Russo. He is located maybe
> 15 minutes South of Lakeland, FL. A recent search popped up noting
> the
> airplane was again for sale. I dont know if that is an old ad or
> it
> is current. Ron seems to be a pretty well qualified pilot he offers
> initial flight testing in a variety of aircraft. Rob has a website
> at:
> http://ronsflying.com/test-pilot-services.html
>
> Another TR-1 builder showed up on the Pulsar forum a while back. His
> name is Dan Ryalls. He was asking about what kind of resin to use as
> his had expired, he listed the airplane as a Pulsar Sport 150. You
> know, I really do not recognize or except that name, the Pulsar clown
> Degani never made any TR-1 kits they only bought back and resold TR-1
> kits, and so far Ive only found one case of a resale. It is
> possible there are more resales out there but the way I see it is
> a
> KIS TR-1 is a KIS TR-1, and that is that. I tried to reach out to Dan
> but I did not receive any reply which leads me to believe he is an
> older original owner, and just not too good at computing.
>
> KIS listers may also recall Jason Hills sad report on the demise
> of his beautiful Warden KIS TR-1C built by Richs employees Chuck
> and Steve. I am most certain this ship will take to the air again. It
> was bought from the insurance company by Wentwoth Aircraft. Oshkosh,
> and SNF attendees should be familiar with this company as they are
> always present at these shows peddling there savaged wares. I was
> told
> the airplane was sold as one complete lot, they did not break it up
> and sell it in pieces.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423965#423965
>
>
> Attachments:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/french_kis_by_benoit_moreembert_at_tagazousfreefr_197.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kis_snf_reunion_2014_539.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Level Sender - Bob Reed |
Hi Graham,
The carbon parts in my TR-1 and in the TR-4 were all done with prepreg in Rich's
shop years ago.
I have never understood the embedded mesh lightning protection. It seems like
the mesh would just vaporize and cause a large delamination to me, but maybe there
is more to it than I understand. I think that advantage of being able to
put all the antennas inside a fiberglass structure outweigh whatever benefit
comes with conductive mesh. For what it is worth, in 11,000 hours of flying
all over the US in lots of crappy weather I have had one lightning strike.
Cheers,
Scott
> On May 31, 2014, at 6:18 AM, gbrighton@skymesh.com.au wrote:
>
>
> G'Day Scott Ana All,
> I have had a dead fuel gauge on one side since I purchased my TR1 .... Traced
the fault the the Head or the bent in Tank Tube ... It's the early low vlt capacitance
model .... With the bend the unit can't be
> replaced normally .. So is a headache I haven't solved as yet .. The other side
works fine ..,
> Scott,
> Interested in ur Carbon Fibre project ... I have a Quickie TRI gear ...
That I'm looking at using to rebuild into a light weight version ... , wondering
if u have added Lightening Protection or not .. If so how ..., and are u
doing Hand Lay ups .. Or using prepreg material or or ..?
> Cheers
> Graham
>
>
> n 30.05.2014 02:06, Scott Stearns wrote:
>> I put the fuel senders in from the wingtip on both my TR-1 and the
>> TR-4 project. You can custom order senders up to around 10 feet and it
>> is not much extra. I put them in at an angle looking from the wing
>> leading edge so they enter near the top of the wing root rib and the
>> tip of the sender is just above the lower wing skin at or near the
>> wing root rib. No need to bend the tube. The senders work great on my
>> TR-1, very linear, and the senders are removable out of the wingtip. I
>> used the newer princeton senders that just use a pipe theard fitting
>> and a separate box for the electronics. I highly recommend it, much
>> easier install. Also, the newer "glass" avionics needs the newer 0-5V
>> output.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:04 AM, fasilpereira
>> <fasilpereira@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <fasilpereira@hotmail.com [1]>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I noticed that you've cut the capacitive fuel level sender in order to
>> install it on the wing due to cracks on the sender tubing after
>> bending.
>>
>> My sender was installed on the inboard wing rib, but on the upper part
>> of the rib. Ted installed it bent up on the inboard part of the wing
>> and pointing down toward the wing tip. This setup will not provide
>> good measurements and I'm thinking on changing that.
>> To correct this issue I'm thinking on cutting the sender as you did,
>> since there is not enough bendable lengh to bend the sensor down so
>> that it touches the bottom of the wing skin.
>>
>> Did you tested your setup? Did it worked properly? What is the brand
>> and the model of your sender?
>>
>> P.S.: I tried to see the pictures of your wing leak test but the link
>> seem to be broken
>>
>> --------
>> Fabricio Pereira
>> Engineer / Pilot
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423962#423962 [2]
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.cosp; -nics.com/contribution"
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut==============
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] mailto:fasilpereira@hotmail.com
>> [2] http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423962#423962
>
>
>
>
>
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