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1. 11:47 AM - N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Galin Hernandez)
2. 12:13 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Robert Reed)
3. 01:11 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Alfred Rosa)
4. 01:44 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Galin Hernandez)
5. 01:47 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Galin Hernandez)
6. 01:47 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Conners, Jerry L)
7. 01:53 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Galin Hernandez)
8. 01:57 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Conners, Jerry L)
9. 02:38 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Alfred Rosa)
10. 03:28 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Galin Hernandez)
11. 04:32 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Conners, Jerry L)
12. 09:39 PM - Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure (Scott Stearns)
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Subject: | N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and
didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the
front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly
rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
collapsed.
The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an
exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airplane
out.
Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
:(
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
Galin,=0A-=0AI am sorry to hear about this.- I know how close you were
getting to your around the world trip and hope that this is just a minor se
tback.- =0A-=0AFrom the photos it looks like the damage should be isola
ted to cowling and engine.- The engine will be the big hit since the engi
ne was running and the resulting prop strike will probably require a full d
isassembly-inspection.- =0A-=0AKeep us informed on your progress and
anything we can do to help.=0A-=0ABob Reed=0A-=0A=0A=0A________________
________________=0AFrom: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>=0ATo: "kis-li
st@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014
1:46 PM=0ASubject: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure=0A=0A=0A=0AYesterday,
-after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just before I exi
ted the runway. The landings (three that day) were super smooth, which is n
ot very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and didn't sleep at a
Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the front pin on the
nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right turn off the runwa
y, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly rotate 180 degree
s to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off center the tube couldn
't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing collapsed.=0A=0AThe worst
part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have happened on
the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an exit closer
to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is involved. Like I s
aid, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation". =0A=0ADepending on the firewal
l condition it could cost more to repair than the insured value. When the i
nsurance company tells me what they are going to do about the claim I will
make a decision to repair or to part the airplane out.=0A=0AHere are some p
hoto's of the airplane on the runway.=0A=0A:(
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but I
know how insurance companies are.
Al Rosa
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and
> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the
> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly
> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
> collapsed.
>
> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an
> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>
> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
> insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
> do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airplane
> out.
>
> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>
> :(
>
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
With it being insured at only $75,000, it might wind up being more than 50%
just to repair it. If I do part it out, a GREAT plug-n-play instrument
panel for a TR-4 will be available real soon.
;)
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
> So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but I
> know how insurance companies are.
>
> Al Rosa
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
>> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
>> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and
>> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the
>> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
>> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly
>> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
>> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
>> collapsed.
>>
>> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
>> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an
>> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
>> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>>
>> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
>> insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
>> do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airplane
>> out.
>>
>> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>>
>> :(
>>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
It will require a complete tear down inspection and depending on what they
find might even need a new engine. The propeller / carb took the brunt of
the severe impact so there has to be internal damage to the engine in
addition to whatever external damage we see.
:(
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:
> Galin,
>
> I am sorry to hear about this. I know how close you were getting to your
> around the world trip and hope that this is just a minor setback.
>
> From the photos it looks like the damage should be isolated to cowling and
> engine. The engine will be the big hit since the engine was running and
> the resulting prop strike will probably require a full
> disassembly inspection.
>
> Keep us informed on your progress and anything we can do to help.
>
> Bob Reed
>
>
> *From:* Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> *To:* "kis-list@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:46 PM
> *Subject:* KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
>
> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and
> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the
> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly
> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
> collapsed.
>
> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an
> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>
> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
> insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
> do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airplane
> out.
>
> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>
> :(
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
Jerry; Do you know where to get a "new and improved" nose gear? One rated
for about 150,000lbs? ;)
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us
>
wrote:
> The damage looks minimaltear down inspection being the most cos
tly
> repair (with resulting needed replacement parts)then a new and i
mproved
> new nose gearhope the aircraft returns to the air soon
>
>
> *From:* owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Galin Hernandez
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:44 PM
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
>
>
> With it being insured at only $75,000, it might wind up being more than
> 50% just to repair it. If I do part it out, a GREAT plug-n-play instrumen
t
> panel for a TR-4 will be available real soon.
>
>
> ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but
I
> know how insurance companies are.
>
>
> Al Rosa
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer a
nd
> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like th
e
> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assemb
ly
> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
> collapsed.
>
>
> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to a
n
> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>
>
> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
> insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
> do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airpla
ne
> out.
>
>
> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>
>
> :(
>
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
I'm in need of a cowling even if it's a little banged up.
Al
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
> With it being insured at only $75,000, it might wind up being more than
> 50% just to repair it. If I do part it out, a GREAT plug-n-play instrument
> panel for a TR-4 will be available real soon.
>
> ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but
>> I know how insurance companies are.
>>
>> Al Rosa
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
>>> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
>>> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and
>>> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the
>>> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
>>> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly
>>> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
>>> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
>>> collapsed.
>>>
>>> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
>>> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an
>>> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
>>> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>>>
>>> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than
>>> the insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going
>>> to do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the
>>> airplane out.
>>>
>>> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>>>
>>> :(
>>>
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
I am not smart enough to design anything like that on my own. If it
was electrical or electronic THAT I can do. ;)
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.us
>
wrote:
> I would design myself and then have it fabricated in a manner that Lyle
> has done in the pastno short cuts in the construction and using
Paul
> Lamar=99s worst case math to determine the loads on impact.
>
>
> *From:* owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Galin Hernandez
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:53 PM
>
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
>
>
> Jerry; Do you know where to get a "new and improved" nose gear? One rated
> for about 150,000lbs? ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Conners, Jerry L <
> jconners@dot.state.nv.us> wrote:
>
> The damage looks minimaltear down inspection being the most cost
ly repair
> (with resulting needed replacement parts)then a new and improved
new nose
> gearhope the aircraft returns to the air soon
>
>
> *From:* owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Galin Hernandez
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:44 PM
> *To:* kis-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
>
>
> With it being insured at only $75,000, it might wind up being more than
> 50% just to repair it. If I do part it out, a GREAT plug-n-play instrumen
t
> panel for a TR-4 will be available real soon.
>
>
> ;)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but
I
> know how insurance companies are.
>
>
> Al Rosa
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just
> before I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super
> smooth, which is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer a
nd
> didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like th
e
> front pin on the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right
> turn off the runway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assemb
ly
> rotate 180 degrees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off
> center the tube couldn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing
> collapsed.
>
>
> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have
> happened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to a
n
> exit closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is
> involved. Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>
>
> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
> insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to
> do about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airpla
ne
> out.
>
>
> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
>
>
> :(
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Subject: | Re: N819PR Nose Gear Failure |
The RV-10 nosegear looks like it would be a possible conversion, if vans wil
l sell them... Or a taildragger conversion....
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1BUCUXrqtsE/TJqBGCqCJYI/AAAAAAAAAR8/eL7IweRFt3A/s800/r
v-10.jpg
Scott
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not smart enough to design anything like that on my own. If it was el
ectrical or electronic THAT I can do. ;)
>
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>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.
us> wrote:
>> I would design myself and then have it fabricated in a manner that Lyle h
as done in the pastno short cuts in the construction and using Paul
Lamar=99s worst case math to determine the loads on impact.
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>> From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:53 PM
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>> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
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>> Jerry; Do you know where to get a "new and improved" nose gear? One rated
for about 150,000lbs? ;)
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>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Conners, Jerry L <jconners@dot.state.nv.
us> wrote:
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>> The damage looks minimaltear down inspection being the most cost
ly repair (with resulting needed replacement parts)then a new and i
mproved new nose gearhope the aircraft returns to the air soon
>>
>>
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>> From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:44 PM
>> To: kis-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: KIS-List: N819PR Nose Gear Failure
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>> With it being insured at only $75,000, it might wind up being more than 5
0% just to repair it. If I do part it out, a GREAT plug-n-play instrument pa
nel for a TR-4 will be available real soon.
>>
>>
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>> ;)
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>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So sorry to hear this Galin. It doesn't look bad enough to part-out but I
know how insurance companies are.
>>
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>>
>> Al Rosa
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>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com> wro
te:
>>
>> Yesterday, after a day of flying, the nose gear on my TR-4 failed just be
fore I exited the runway. The landings (three that day) were super smooth, w
hich is not very common for me. I am not a mechanical engineer and didn't sl
eep at a Holiday Inn Express but preliminary check looks like the front pin o
n the nose gear assembly failed. When I went to make the right turn off the r
unway, the rear pin then failed which let the entire assembly rotate 180 deg
rees to the left. Once the assembly was 180 degrees off center the tube coul
dn't hold the stress, it failed and the whole thing collapsed.
>>
>>
>>
>> The worst part is if I would have taken the previous exit it would have h
appened on the non-movement area of the airport. But since I taxied to an ex
it closer to my hangar it happened on the runway so now the FAA is involved.
Like I said, "Murphy is alive and well in aviation".
>>
>>
>>
>> Depending on the firewall condition it could cost more to repair than the
insured value. When the insurance company tells me what they are going to d
o about the claim I will make a decision to repair or to part the airplane o
ut.
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>> Here are some photo's of the airplane on the runway.
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