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1. 12:42 AM - Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
2. 08:25 AM - IO240B engine bushings (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
3. 01:30 PM - Re: IO240B engine bushings (Tim Yoder)
4. 02:02 PM - Re: IO240B engine bushings (Scott Stearns)
5. 03:37 PM - Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab (Randy Ott)
6. 06:28 PM - Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab (Peter Duran)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab |
I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to weight
imbalance either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!
From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
To: "kis-list@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com>,
Date: 08/14/2014 03:50 AM
Subject: Re: KIS-List: Aileron Electric Trim Tab
Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
FWIW: I use my electric aileron trimin just about every flight on my TR4 and
am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira@hotmail.com>
wrote:
My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous
builder on the right wing aileron.
During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is
very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the
aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....
I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single
engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think
that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very
efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.
Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd
like to listen to what you guys think about it.
Thanks,
Fabricio
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Engineer / Pilot
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| Subject: | IO240B engine bushings |
I checked at the weekend my bushings on the Io240B engine mounts. see the
picture attached .
(See attached file: IMG_4203.jpg)
this was the worst one ( lower port side) it does look like they are
starting to break up and need to be replaced , ( new in 1996, first ran in
2001, just over 500 hours )
Keith
From: "Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
To: "'KIS-LIST MATRONICS'" <kis-list@matronics.com>,
Date: 08/04/2014 05:26 AM
Subject: KIS-List: FW: docs
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For those who have a Cont. IO-240 B1B in there TR-1 and haven't changed there
rubber mount bushings recently, here are the part numbers and what they cost
me from my source. Note that the four center bushings #638255 are not the
same as used in the O-200. I had to remove my oil filter and adaptor in order
the remove the bottom right mount bolt. The gasket was the replacement for
the oil filter adaptor. If you have a different model IO-240 you may not need
the gasket.
It is a bit of a chore but well worth the effort.
Thanks to OC Baker for his help no getting me the information I needed to
complete this job.
Tim
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| Subject: | IO240B engine bushings |
Keith,
My engine age and hours are very similar. I had to dig out three of my
bushings as they had bonded to the engine casting. On my plane the spinner
had dropped a good 1/4" over the years, Grasping the prop I could lift the
engine up to its proper location. The new bushings put the engine back up. I
couldn't tell any difference in flight, vibration seemed the same. It looks
much better on the ramp though.
Tim
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Subject: KIS-List: IO240B engine bushings
I checked at the weekend my bushings on the Io240B engine mounts. see the
picture attached .
(See attached file: IMG_4203.jpg)
this was the worst one ( lower port side) it does look like they are
starting to break up and need to be replaced , ( new in 1996, first ran in
2001, just over 500 hours )
Keith
From: "Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
To: "'KIS-LIST MATRONICS'" <kis-list@matronics.com>,
Date: 08/04/2014 05:26 AM
Subject: KIS-List: FW: docs
Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
For those who have a Cont. IO-240 B1B in there TR-1 and haven't changed
there rubber mount bushings recently, here are the part numbers and what
they cost me from my source. Note that the four center bushings #638255 are
not the same as used in the O-200. I had to remove my oil filter and adaptor
in order the remove the bottom right mount bolt. The gasket was the
replacement for the oil filter adaptor. If you have a different model IO-240
you may not need the gasket.
It is a bit of a chore but well worth the effort.
Thanks to OC Baker for his help no getting me the information I needed to
complete this job.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: IO240B engine bushings |
I think it is pretty normal for the engine to settle in the mounts some.
-I set my cowl up so the spinner was about 1/8" high and it settled to ab
out 1/8" below in the first few hours of flight. -I ended up putting a la
rge area washing under the lower engine mount bolts to even it out. -It h
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab |
Keep it !! I use mine on Every Flight ...:)
Randy
N 96BT
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On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Keith.Miller@esa.int wrote:
>
> I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to weight
> imbalance either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!
>
>
>
>
> From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com>
> To: "kis-list@matronics.com" <kis-list@matronics.com>,
> Date: 08/14/2014 03:50 AM
> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Aileron Electric Trim Tab
> Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
>
>
>
> FWIW: I use my electric aileron trim in just about every flight on my TR4 and
> am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous
> builder on the right wing aileron.
> During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab is
> very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of the
> aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....
> I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single
> engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think
> that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very
> efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.
> Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd
> like to listen to what you guys think about it.
> Thanks,
>
> Fabricio
>
> --------
> Fabricio Pereira
> Engineer / Pilot
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428401#428401
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Electric Trim Tab |
I agree, I wish I had one on my KIS TR1. Fuel usage creates weight
imbalance and heavy wings.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014, Randy Ott <randy.ott@gmail.com> wrote:
> <javascript:;>>
>
> Keep it !! I use mine on Every Flight ...:)
> Randy
> N 96BT
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 14, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Keith.Miller@esa.int <javascript:;> wrote:
>
> >
> > I wish i had an aileron trim on my 2 place , its very sensitive to
> weight
> > imbalance either from Fuel or passenger - Keep it !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Galin Hernandez <galinhdz@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > To: "kis-list@matronics.com <javascript:;>" <kis-list@matronics.com
> <javascript:;>>,
> > Date: 08/14/2014 03:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Aileron Electric Trim Tab
> > Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>
> >
> >
> >
> > FWIW: I use my electric aileron trim in just about every flight on my
> TR4 and
> > am glad I have it especially on flights longer that 1hr.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, fasilpereira <fasilpereira@hotmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> fasilpereira@hotmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >
> > My project came with an aileron trim tab already cut by the previous
> > builder on the right wing aileron.
> > During the balancing process of the aileron I've noticed that this tab
> is
> > very heavy for its size. Besides that, there is an additional weight of
> the
> > aileron trim servo, servo cover, electric cable.....
> > I'm thinking if all that stuff is really necessary. Most of the single
> > engine aircraft that I've flown don't have an aileron trim tab. I think
> > that the fixed aileron trim tab is light, simple, reliable and very
> > efficient for small roll tendency adjustment.
> > Before I remove my aileron trim tab and all the associated systems, I'd
> > like to listen to what you guys think about it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Fabricio
> >
> > --------
> > Fabricio Pereira
> > Engineer / Pilot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428401#428401
> >
> >
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