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1. 12:18 PM - Right Side Stick Grip (1) (Owen Baker)
2. 01:16 PM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (Conners, Jerry L)
3. 03:46 PM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (Galin Hernandez)
4. 04:03 PM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (William Schertz)
5. 05:43 PM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (Scott Stearns)
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| Subject: | Right Side Stick Grip (1) |
11/21/2014
Hello Fellow Builders, I have decided that the right hand control stick
in my KIS TR-1 EAB (Experimental Amateur Built) airplane is too short.
One must almost reach down between one=99s legs in order to grip
the stick handle. (I had previously extended the left side control stick
to overcome this problem.)
Since I am going to extend the stick I thought that I might as well put
a better control stick handle on the top of the extension.
This is where you come in -- I am seeking your advice on a good choice
for a replacement control stick handle. Here are some of my thoughts /
criteria:
1) Will be used only by the right hand so grip may be either right hand
only shaped or generically shaped.
2) Will need radio transmit keying switch.
3) Will need pitch trim switch(es).
4) Desire aileron trim switch(es).
5) Do not need or want a whole bunch of other switches. This is not a
HOTS (Hands On Throttle and Stick) only controlled airplane.
6) Grip material not significant.
7) If I turn out to really like this grip I may eventually also replace
the left hand stick grip.
8) Cost is not a primary driver on selection.
Thanks for your help.
OC
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| Subject: | Right Side Stick Grip (1) |
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| Subject: | Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) |
FWIW I went with the Infinity grip for my airplane. Yes it is almost a HOTS
but after flying it this way for almost 600hrs I am glad I did.
I don't have electric flaps so I wired the flap switch to control the fuel
pump which is especially GREAT when approaching to land. It is second
nature in this position.
Having the flip-flop capability for both the Radio and VOR sure helps a lot
especially when flying IFR. Finally I used the bottom button for
transponder IDENT. I am now so used to this setup I find other airplanes I
fly cumbersome and taking too much of my limited thinking capability.
Once again, just my 2 cents.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Owen Baker <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
> 11/21/2014
>
> Hello Fellow Builders, I have decided that the right hand control stick i
n
> my KIS TR-1 EAB (Experimental Amateur Built) airplane is too short. One
> must almost reach down between one=99s legs in order to grip the st
ick
> handle. (I had previously extended the left side control stick to overcom
e
> this problem.)
>
> Since I am going to extend the stick I thought that I might as well put a
> better control stick handle on the top of the extension.
>
> This is where you come in -- I am seeking your advice on a good choice fo
r
> a replacement control stick handle. Here are some of my thoughts / criter
ia:
>
> 1) Will be used only by the right hand so grip may be either right hand
> only shaped or generically shaped.
>
> 2) Will need radio transmit keying switch.
>
> 3) Will need pitch trim switch(es).
>
> 4) Desire aileron trim switch(es).
>
> 5) Do not need or want a whole bunch of other switches. This is not a HOT
S
> (Hands On Throttle and Stick) only controlled airplane.
>
> 6) Grip material not significant.
>
> 7) If I turn out to really like this grip I may eventually also replace
> the left hand stick grip.
>
> 8) Cost is not a primary driver on selection.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> OC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) |
I have been very happy with the CH-products grip. They make themn for
games, which get many more clicks than we will ever use. My left switch
has cooly hat trim on top, push to talk as a trigger switch, + a button
below push to talk that I use for auto pilot disengage, and two buttons
on top that can be used to switch frequencies, etc. Can be left or right
hand.
Bill
From: Conners, Jerry L
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: KIS-List: Right Side Stick Grip (1)
Go with your favorite military control =98stick
handle=99of course I would use a AH-1S which has many
switches and some =98cover=99 with the RED flip
typeyou could rewire the original intended ARM and FIRE buttons
as needed.
Jer
From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Owen Baker
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Right Side Stick Grip (1)
11/21/2014
Hello Fellow Builders, I have decided that the right hand control stick
in my KIS TR-1 EAB (Experimental Amateur Built) airplane is too short.
One must almost reach down between one=99s legs in order to grip
the stick handle. (I had previously extended the left side control stick
to overcome this problem.)
Since I am going to extend the stick I thought that I might as well put
a better control stick handle on the top of the extension.
This is where you come in -- I am seeking your advice on a good choice
for a replacement control stick handle. Here are some of my thoughts /
criteria:
1) Will be used only by the right hand so grip may be either right hand
only shaped or generically shaped.
2) Will need radio transmit keying switch.
3) Will need pitch trim switch(es).
4) Desire aileron trim switch(es).
5) Do not need or want a whole bunch of other switches. This is not a
HOTS (Hands On Throttle and Stick) only controlled airplane.
6) Grip material not significant.
7) If I turn out to really like this grip I may eventually also replace
the left hand stick grip.
8) Cost is not a primary driver on selection.
Thanks for your help.
OC
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| Subject: | Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) |
Hi OC...
I used this grip and I am happy with it.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/taeakwoodgripmaster.php
I set my airplane up with the stick between the seats instead of between the
legs. The throttle quadrent in on the left fuselage. I much prefer that t
o the factory layout. You can rest your forearm on the center console and h
ave your fingers on the stick. It frees up you lap for an iPad or lunch. T
he mechanism is actually more simple then the factory set up.
Scott
> On Nov 21, 2014, at 12:17 PM, "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
>
> 11/21/2014
>
> Hello Fellow Builders, I have decided that the right hand control stick in
my KIS TR-1 EAB (Experimental Amateur Built) airplane is too short. One mus
t almost reach down between one=99s legs in order to grip the stick ha
ndle. (I had previously extended the left side control stick to overcome thi
s problem.)
>
> Since I am going to extend the stick I thought that I might as well put a b
etter control stick handle on the top of the extension.
>
> This is where you come in -- I am seeking your advice on a good choice for
a replacement control stick handle. Here are some of my thoughts / criteria
:
>
> 1) Will be used only by the right hand so grip may be either right hand on
ly shaped or generically shaped.
>
> 2) Will need radio transmit keying switch.
>
> 3) Will need pitch trim switch(es).
>
> 4) Desire aileron trim switch(es).
>
> 5) Do not need or want a whole bunch of other switches. This is not a HOTS
(Hands On Throttle and Stick) only controlled airplane.
>
> 6) Grip material not significant.
>
> 7) If I turn out to really like this grip I may eventually also replace th
e left hand stick grip.
>
> 8) Cost is not a primary driver on selection.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> OC
>
>
>
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