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Mon 03/23/15


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     1. 06:13 AM - Re: NEOPRENE HOSE (mark_trickel)
     2. 06:56 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun 2015 (mark_trickel)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:13:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: NEOPRENE HOSE
    From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
    The 3/8 I.D. Neoprene hose included in KIS kits was intended for the fuel line connection between the fuel tanks, and the fuselage. The manual is a little vague, but there is a drawing of a typical aircraft fuel system included in the TR-1 Builders Manual (Airframe Assembly section page 8 ). I did not check, but I am sure the same drawing is in the TR-4 Builders Manual. The drawing comes from our faster, sleeker, and much more difficult to build cousin, the Lancair 235/320. The black rubber hose is a very important piece to the KIS aircraft. I can think of 2 real important reasons for this hose. First it makes hooking up the fuel tanks simple. It would be a lot harder to install a metal piece of tubing in this tight spot. Second when a wing panel breaks off in a crash, the neoprene fuel line would separate very easily - you wont have to worry about the fuel line whiplashing about the cockpit (hopefully you all have plenty of Adell clamps or the like securing the fuel line inside the cockpit). Vinyl tubing was also included in KIS kits for use in the pitot static system. Some items included in the kits in fact have a shelf life, and that includes the neoprene, and vinyl tubing (tires, unused resin and adhesives). KIS kits are now reaching the 25 year old mark, and owners that have KIS aircraft built with these original materials need to seriously think about replacing or upgrading them if they have not done so already. The vinyl tubing in my 23 year old is still somewhat serviceable, but I am upgrading to Nyloseal tubing, and fittings - those will last a few lifetimes. Some builders did not follow the Builders Manual, its just the nature of homebuilt airplanes. Some installed that black rubber hose from the fuel tanks all the way through the cockpit to the firewall (a very bad idea). My TR-1 had that black hose from the tanks through the side of the fuselage, then slid onto the aluminum tubing (no barb) held on by 2 hose clamps, running 45+ psi automotive fuel pumps in each wing slosh tank. The return came from the firewall fitting into vinyl tubing, to the fuel valve, back into vinyl tubing to the tanks. That tubing is now petrified. Whats in your fuel system? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439763#439763


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    Time: 06:56:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun-N-Fun 2015
    From: "mark_trickel" <marktrickel@gmail.com>
    Galin - Fabricio I am reasonably certain I will be at Sun N Fun later in the week. I will probably be helping Mark K. with his engines in the Ultralight/LSA display area. Robert If you are inspired by the recent article in Kitplanes about the wraps one concern I would have, and one that was not discussed in the article is about removing the wrap years down the road. I have a buddy that works in a shop that does wraps on automobiles, and I asked him that question (many years ago) he said they will guarantee a clean removal only on factory painted surfaces. They cannot guarantee the paint will not come off with the wrap on any repainted surfaces. Paint jobs done in the factories are baked on. Finishes we commonly spray on our airplanes are not nearly as durable as finishes done in a huge factory. You would still have to have some kind of fill, and primer on the airplane before you wrap it, but even those finishes may be jeopardized when removing the wrap. My experiences removing the vinyl stripes of my TR-1, even with an industrial heat gun getting it hot enough to almost bubble the paint the surfaces under the paint are still peeling off with the stripes all the way down to the fiberglass weave. At the airport where my dad, and I kept our airplanes there was a local auto body guy that would come out a shoot the paint on an airplane for a reasonable price. Maybe an ad on craigslist could find someone near you worthy of the task. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439766#439766




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