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1. 12:09 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (Jarod Officer)
2. 02:30 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (Siddartha Bravo)
3. 02:46 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (Jarod Officer)
4. 03:58 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (Randy Ott)
5. 03:58 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (Randy Ott)
6. 09:13 PM - Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 (mark_trickel)
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
Hi, Mark. Long time. Sorry Ive been out of touch for quite a while. I also had
to miss Oshkosh this year. Bummer. How are you? I hope all is well.
Im again considering buying George Moores TR-1, especially since he lowered the
price. I bought a Bellanca Cruisair over a year ago, and its STILL in annual.
Im about to put it up for sale and see if I get any bites. My thinking now
is, I want less of an ongoing project plane. I know Ill have some tweaking here
and there with Georges plane, but essentially its a nearly new (turn-key)
plane (especially compared to my Bellanca). The other draw for me is ongoing
usage and ownership costs, which promises to be substantially lower with the TR-1.
My only gripe about Georges plane is his high empty weight and corresponding
low useful load. I think I can live with that, though.
Anyway, Id also be interested in maybe seeing the two TR-1s that are for sale in
California, if theyre anywhere close to me. Any chance you could put me in
touch with Randy O. and Michael G.? I couldnt find them in the member list.
Thanks!
Jarod
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:13 AM, mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Here is the current for sale list that will be displayed at Oshkosh. You can
not buy better advertising than this. If anybody else wants to be included just
let me know.
>
> KIS AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
>
> TR-1 2-place aircraft:
> George M. - Flying 2.2 Subaru 2.2 powered, Michigan, USA $22,000
> Randy O - Flying O-320 powered, California, USA $50,000
> Pete R. - Was flying O-235 powered, Michigan, USA $12,000
> Jessie W. - Flying O-320 powered, Colorado, USA $30,000
> George C. about 10% completed, San Diego, USA $10,000
> Bernhardt TR-1 Was flying bent a little bit, Texas, USA $Upper Teens
> VH-AIG - Michael P. O-235 powered, Australia
> HB-YLI TR-1C - about 95% completed, IO-240 powered, Switzerland $21,000
> Steve M - about 95% complete, O-235 powered, New Zealand
> Quiet Sales:
> Michael G. - Flying, O-320 powered, California, USA
> Bob R - Flying, O-320 powered, Arizona, USA
>
> TR-4 4-place aircraft
> Kent Pyle - Flying, O-360 powered. Missouri, USA $60,000
> Al R. - about 85% completed, Florida, USA
> Michael H. - about 70% completed, Kansas, USA $12,000 (was owned by Paul L.)
> John F. - about 20% completed, Oshkosh area, Wisconsin, USA $negotiable
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444388#444388
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
Jarod,
My name is Siddartha Bravo, Im the proud owner of N528BR a nice TR-1, you can verified
my information on the FAA web. I would like to offer you y TR-1. I have
done everything you can think of so, if you are looking for a plane that there
is no need to do anything let me know. I bought it for my 30th B-day and
I havent had a chance to fly it much but i was able to upgrade lots and lots of
things. Im Contractor and I been overseas over a year now and after updating
everything on my plane I was informed that im getting deploy again so I really
dont see the point on keeping this nice Tr-1 grounded. I would rather sell
it to someone that is familiar with the plane. Anyways let me know. Ill be in
California, Los angeles area on the 11th and 12th of this month.
Bravo
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Jarod Officer <emailjarod@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Mark. Long time. Sorry Ive been out of touch for quite a while. I also
had to miss Oshkosh this year. Bummer. How are you? I hope all is well.
>
> Im again considering buying George Moores TR-1, especially since he lowered the
price. I bought a Bellanca Cruisair over a year ago, and its STILL in annual.
Im about to put it up for sale and see if I get any bites. My thinking now
is, I want less of an ongoing project plane. I know Ill have some tweaking
here and there with Georges plane, but essentially its a nearly new (turn-key)
plane (especially compared to my Bellanca). The other draw for me is ongoing
usage and ownership costs, which promises to be substantially lower with the
TR-1. My only gripe about Georges plane is his high empty weight and corresponding
low useful load. I think I can live with that, though.
>
> Anyway, Id also be interested in maybe seeing the two TR-1s that are for sale
in California, if theyre anywhere close to me. Any chance you could put me in
touch with Randy O. and Michael G.? I couldnt find them in the member list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jarod
>
>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:13 AM, mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Here is the current for sale list that will be displayed at Oshkosh. You can
not buy better advertising than this. If anybody else wants to be included just
let me know.
>>
>> KIS AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
>>
>> TR-1 2-place aircraft:
>> George M. - Flying 2.2 Subaru 2.2 powered, Michigan, USA $22,000
>> Randy O - Flying O-320 powered, California, USA $50,000
>> Pete R. - Was flying O-235 powered, Michigan, USA $12,000
>> Jessie W. - Flying O-320 powered, Colorado, USA $30,000
>> George C. about 10% completed, San Diego, USA $10,000
>> Bernhardt TR-1 Was flying bent a little bit, Texas, USA $Upper Teens
>> VH-AIG - Michael P. O-235 powered, Australia
>> HB-YLI TR-1C - about 95% completed, IO-240 powered, Switzerland $21,000
>> Steve M - about 95% complete, O-235 powered, New Zealand
>> Quiet Sales:
>> Michael G. - Flying, O-320 powered, California, USA
>> Bob R - Flying, O-320 powered, Arizona, USA
>>
>> TR-4 4-place aircraft
>> Kent Pyle - Flying, O-360 powered. Missouri, USA $60,000
>> Al R. - about 85% completed, Florida, USA
>> Michael H. - about 70% completed, Kansas, USA $12,000 (was owned by Paul L.)
>> John F. - about 20% completed, Oshkosh area, Wisconsin, USA $negotiable
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444388#444388
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
Hi, Siddartha. Thanks for getting in touch. I may very well be interested, depending
on what youd be asking for it. Im looking at George Moores plane, partially
because its one of the only ones I can afford right now. Anyway, Id love
to talk to you. Feel free to call me any time. My number is 773-398-1967.
I would also be interested in sharing a plane. Cheers!
Jarod
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Siddartha Bravo <uss_bravo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jarod,
>
>
> My name is Siddartha Bravo, Im the proud owner of N528BR a nice TR-1, you can
verified my information on the FAA web. I would like to offer you y TR-1. I
have done everything you can think of so, if you are looking for a plane that
there is no need to do anything let me know. I bought it for my 30th B-day and
I havent had a chance to fly it much but i was able to upgrade lots and lots
of things. Im Contractor and I been overseas over a year now and after updating
everything on my plane I was informed that im getting deploy again so I really
dont see the point on keeping this nice Tr-1 grounded. I would rather sell
it to someone that is familiar with the plane. Anyways let me know. Ill be in
California, Los angeles area on the 11th and 12th of this month.
>
>
>
> Bravo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Jarod Officer <emailjarod@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, Mark. Long time. Sorry Ive been out of touch for quite a while. I also
had to miss Oshkosh this year. Bummer. How are you? I hope all is well.
>>
>> Im again considering buying George Moores TR-1, especially since he lowered
the price. I bought a Bellanca Cruisair over a year ago, and its STILL in annual.
Im about to put it up for sale and see if I get any bites. My thinking
now is, I want less of an ongoing project plane. I know Ill have some tweaking
here and there with Georges plane, but essentially its a nearly new (turn-key)
plane (especially compared to my Bellanca). The other draw for me is ongoing
usage and ownership costs, which promises to be substantially lower with the
TR-1. My only gripe about Georges plane is his high empty weight and corresponding
low useful load. I think I can live with that, though.
>>
>> Anyway, Id also be interested in maybe seeing the two TR-1s that are for sale
in California, if theyre anywhere close to me. Any chance you could put me
in touch with Randy O. and Michael G.? I couldnt find them in the member list.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jarod
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:13 AM, mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the current for sale list that will be displayed at Oshkosh. You can
not buy better advertising than this. If anybody else wants to be included just
let me know.
>>>
>>> KIS AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
>>>
>>> TR-1 2-place aircraft:
>>> George M. - Flying 2.2 Subaru 2.2 powered, Michigan, USA $22,000
>>> Randy O - Flying O-320 powered, California, USA $50,000
>>> Pete R. - Was flying O-235 powered, Michigan, USA $12,000
>>> Jessie W. - Flying O-320 powered, Colorado, USA $30,000
>>> George C. about 10% completed, San Diego, USA $10,000
>>> Bernhardt TR-1 Was flying bent a little bit, Texas, USA $Upper Teens
>>> VH-AIG - Michael P. O-235 powered, Australia
>>> HB-YLI TR-1C - about 95% completed, IO-240 powered, Switzerland $21,000
>>> Steve M - about 95% complete, O-235 powered, New Zealand
>>> Quiet Sales:
>>> Michael G. - Flying, O-320 powered, California, USA
>>> Bob R - Flying, O-320 powered, Arizona, USA
>>>
>>> TR-4 4-place aircraft
>>> Kent Pyle - Flying, O-360 powered. Missouri, USA $60,000
>>> Al R. - about 85% completed, Florida, USA
>>> Michael H. - about 70% completed, Kansas, USA $12,000 (was owned by Paul L.)
>>> John F. - about 20% completed, Oshkosh area, Wisconsin, USA $negotiable
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444388#444388
>>>
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
I am here ... At your service :)
Randy Ott
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Siddartha Bravo <uss_bravo@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Jarod,
>
>
> My name is Siddartha Bravo, I=99m the proud owner of N528BR a nice
TR-1, you
> can verified my information on the FAA web. I would like to offer you y
> TR-1. I have done everything you can think of so, if you are looking for
a
> plane that there is no need to do anything let me know. I bought it for m
y
> 30th B-day and I haven=99t had a chance to fly it much but i was ab
le to
> upgrade lots and lots of things. I=99m Contractor and I been overs
eas over a
> year now and after updating everything on my plane I was informed that im
> getting deploy again so I really don=99t see the point on keeping t
his nice
> Tr-1 grounded. I would rather sell it to someone that is familiar with th
e
> plane. Anyways let me know. I=99ll be in California, Los angeles ar
ea on the
> 11th and 12th of this month.
>
>
> Bravo
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Jarod Officer <emailjarod@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Mark. Long time. Sorry I=99ve been out of touch for quite a
while.
> I also had to miss Oshkosh this year. Bummer. How are you? I hope all
is
> well.
> >
> > I=99m again considering buying George Moore=99s TR-1, espec
ially since he
> lowered the price. I bought a Bellanca Cruisair over a year ago, and it
=99s
> STILL in annual. I=99m about to put it up for sale and see if I ge
t any
> bites. My thinking now is, I want less of an ongoing project plane. I
> know I=99ll have some tweaking here and there with George=99s
plane, but
> essentially it=99s a nearly new (turn-key) plane (especially compar
ed to my
> Bellanca). The other draw for me is ongoing usage and ownership costs,
> which promises to be substantially lower with the TR-1. My only gripe
> about George=99s plane is his high empty weight and corresponding l
ow useful
> load. I think I can live with that, though.
> >
> > Anyway, I=99d also be interested in maybe seeing the two TR-1
=99s that are
> for sale in California, if they=99re anywhere close to me. Any cha
nce you
> could put me in touch with Randy O. and Michael G.? I couldn=99t f
ind them
> in the member list.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jarod
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:13 AM, mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com> wrote
:
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is the current for sale list that will be displayed at Oshkosh.
> You can not buy better advertising than this. If anybody else wants to be
> included just let me know.
> >>
> >> KIS AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
> >>
> >> TR-1 2-place aircraft:
> >> George M. - Flying 2.2 Subaru 2.2 powered, Michigan, USA $22,000
> >> Randy O - Flying O-320 powered, California, USA $50,000
> >> Pete R. - Was flying O-235 powered, Michigan, USA $12,000
> >> Jessie W. - Flying O-320 powered, Colorado, USA $30,000
> >> George C. =C3=A2=82=AC=9C about 10% completed, San Diego, USA
$10,000
> >> Bernhardt TR-1 Was flying bent a little bit, Texas, USA $Upper Teens
> >> VH-AIG - Michael P. O-235 powered, Australia
> >> HB-YLI TR-1C - about 95% completed, IO-240 powered, Switzerland $21,00
0
> >> Steve M - about 95% complete, O-235 powered, New Zealand
> >> Quiet Sales:
> >> Michael G. - Flying, O-320 powered, California, USA
> >> Bob R - Flying, O-320 powered, Arizona, USA
> >>
> >> TR-4 4-place aircraft
> >> Kent Pyle - Flying, O-360 powered. Missouri, USA $60,000
> >> Al R. - about 85% completed, Florida, USA
> >> Michael H. - about 70% completed, Kansas, USA $12,000 (was owned by
> Paul L.)
> >> John F. - about 20% completed, Oshkosh area, Wisconsin, USA $negotiabl
e
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444388#444388
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
randyott@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Siddartha Bravo <uss_bravo@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Jarod,
>
>
> My name is Siddartha Bravo, I=99m the proud owner of N528BR a nice
TR-1, you
> can verified my information on the FAA web. I would like to offer you y
> TR-1. I have done everything you can think of so, if you are looking for
a
> plane that there is no need to do anything let me know. I bought it for m
y
> 30th B-day and I haven=99t had a chance to fly it much but i was ab
le to
> upgrade lots and lots of things. I=99m Contractor and I been overs
eas over a
> year now and after updating everything on my plane I was informed that im
> getting deploy again so I really don=99t see the point on keeping t
his nice
> Tr-1 grounded. I would rather sell it to someone that is familiar with th
e
> plane. Anyways let me know. I=99ll be in California, Los angeles ar
ea on the
> 11th and 12th of this month.
>
>
> Bravo
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:08 AM, Jarod Officer <emailjarod@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Mark. Long time. Sorry I=99ve been out of touch for quite a
while.
> I also had to miss Oshkosh this year. Bummer. How are you? I hope all
is
> well.
> >
> > I=99m again considering buying George Moore=99s TR-1, espec
ially since he
> lowered the price. I bought a Bellanca Cruisair over a year ago, and it
=99s
> STILL in annual. I=99m about to put it up for sale and see if I ge
t any
> bites. My thinking now is, I want less of an ongoing project plane. I
> know I=99ll have some tweaking here and there with George=99s
plane, but
> essentially it=99s a nearly new (turn-key) plane (especially compar
ed to my
> Bellanca). The other draw for me is ongoing usage and ownership costs,
> which promises to be substantially lower with the TR-1. My only gripe
> about George=99s plane is his high empty weight and corresponding l
ow useful
> load. I think I can live with that, though.
> >
> > Anyway, I=99d also be interested in maybe seeing the two TR-1
=99s that are
> for sale in California, if they=99re anywhere close to me. Any cha
nce you
> could put me in touch with Randy O. and Michael G.? I couldn=99t f
ind them
> in the member list.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jarod
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:13 AM, mark_trickel <marktrickel@gmail.com> wrote
:
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is the current for sale list that will be displayed at Oshkosh.
> You can not buy better advertising than this. If anybody else wants to be
> included just let me know.
> >>
> >> KIS AIRCRAFT FOR SALE
> >>
> >> TR-1 2-place aircraft:
> >> George M. - Flying 2.2 Subaru 2.2 powered, Michigan, USA $22,000
> >> Randy O - Flying O-320 powered, California, USA $50,000
> >> Pete R. - Was flying O-235 powered, Michigan, USA $12,000
> >> Jessie W. - Flying O-320 powered, Colorado, USA $30,000
> >> George C. =C3=A2=82=AC=9C about 10% completed, San Diego, USA
$10,000
> >> Bernhardt TR-1 Was flying bent a little bit, Texas, USA $Upper Teens
> >> VH-AIG - Michael P. O-235 powered, Australia
> >> HB-YLI TR-1C - about 95% completed, IO-240 powered, Switzerland $21,00
0
> >> Steve M - about 95% complete, O-235 powered, New Zealand
> >> Quiet Sales:
> >> Michael G. - Flying, O-320 powered, California, USA
> >> Bob R - Flying, O-320 powered, Arizona, USA
> >>
> >> TR-4 4-place aircraft
> >> Kent Pyle - Flying, O-360 powered. Missouri, USA $60,000
> >> Al R. - about 85% completed, Florida, USA
> >> Michael H. - about 70% completed, Kansas, USA $12,000 (was owned by
> Paul L.)
> >> John F. - about 20% completed, Oshkosh area, Wisconsin, USA $negotiabl
e
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444388#444388
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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Subject: | Re: KIS Aircraft For Sale List - Oshkosh 2015 |
Hello Jarrod,
Things are going good here, we missed you at Oshkosh. It was a great show and I
am getting ready to post the Oshkosh report this weekend. You know I had a feeling
you were going to go for the Bellanca 14-19 even though I tried to talk
you out of it. My dad and I had a bunch of certified airplane projects, and I
learned they can be expensive to own and maintain, plus you need an A&P, and a
AI Im sticking with the homebuilts unless I hit the lottery.
The KIS for sale list changed considerably since Oshkosh. I am sorry to report
the Moore KIS TR-1 may have a new owner by now. There was a fellow interested
in the airplane that was supposed to go see, and fly it late last month, but I
have not heard anything yet. There was also a second interested party ready to
buy - he is awaiting the outcome. When George lowered the price he received
many inquiries so I am reasonably certain he has a buyer.
I sent you some information awhile back about the Kindig TR-1 that one was last
in Michigan owned by Pete Ricard. He paid over $20,000 for it from the forth
owner who had taken it apart and was ready to put windows in it. Pete put the
new windows in it and then decided to sell it. Unfortunately he was in a hurry
and put it on EBay, it went for $8900 less than the value of the engine alone!
The plane was a little rough but the third owner upgraded the nose gear, but
without a doubt this was the buy of the century. I am not sure who owns this
one now but Ill find out eventually.
Randys airplane may still be available he does have an interested party, but that
guy needs to sell the airplane he now has first. The price of this one in in
the $50,000 range. Its a nice airplane I have seen this one years ago, it could
use a little tweaking but the airplane really boogies along.
Siddartha Bravos Traughler TR-1 is also a very nice airplane, it has brand new
paint, and a Garmin glass panel with 320 power. Im guessing its in the $35,000
to $40,000 range. I dont think the interior is completely finished off, but still
a real nice airplane. The 320 powered KISes are the bomb I think even Scott
S. would agree.
Michael Guy, and Bob Robinson are what I call the quiet sales. They both posted
here they would consider selling but as far as I know are not actively advertising.
I will send you the addresses I have for them but I dont know if Michaels
addy is current, you may have to resort to facebook. Both of these are 320
powered.
Another 320 powered TR-1 for sale is Jessie Wrights located in Colorado. Although
I told him he needs to fly it around a while and enjoy it after years of building
he still wants to sell. I dont know much about this one - he is asking
$30.000. He is around the forum here somewhere. There is a phone number for him
posted.
Elden Lorahs TR-1 is ready to fly but has not flown. He is negotiable in price
- I set the price at about $32,000 in worth with a 0 time O-200, new radios, and
round gauges. The engine and panel alone are worth about $17,000. I will be
going to see this one as soon as he recovers from surgery.
The last prospect is the Bernhardt TR-1 in Texas. Its bent and needs work - the
current owner is asking $19,000, and is negotiable. It needs a new prop, engine
rebuild (probably just new bearings), nose gear, and the wing tip glued back
together probably around $10,000 to bring to back to flying condition.
I know there are others out there somewhere I am missing about 40 TR-1s. They
are hidden around the world waiting to be discovered. Some of them may even be
flying. We all want a nice flying airplane for little money but there is no such
thing as a cheap airplane, and when you buy a cheap airplane you will undoubtedly
pay in the end.
MT
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