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Sat 09/12/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 05:53 AM - IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings (Owen Baker)
     2. 07:41 AM - Re: Bushings (Owen Baker)
     3. 08:11 AM - IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings (Owen Baker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:53:51 AM PST US
    From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings
    9/12/2015 Hello Bill, Great suggestion =93 many thanks. I did not find any suitable bushings at M C, but did find and order several different lengths of hose that I may be able to cut and turn into suitable 638225 replacements. OC = From: Bill Schertz Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings Check McMaster Carr for different bushings. They may have something of use. From: Owen Baker Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:05 AM Subject: KIS-List: IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings 9/11/2015 Hello Fellow Owners and Builders of KIS TR-1 Airplanes Powered by the IO-240 BxB Engine, I am going through another evolution of replacing the elastomeric bushings in this engine mount because of engine sag. I am disgusted by the cost, and general non availability of the 638225 elastomeric bushing. This is the center tubular bushing: 1/2 inch inner diameter, 1 inch outer diameter.** I am also unhappy with the fact that the elastomeric material in this bushing is too soft and allows almost immediate engine sag. I am considering trying to locate some rubber hose with a 1/2 inch inner diameter and 1 inch outer diameter and cutting it into short lengths and using that instead of the CM part #638225. Your comments? OC **PS: Another particularly aggravating factor is the difficulty in installing new elastomeric bushings.


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    Time: 07:41:30 AM PST US
    From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Bushings
    9/12/2015 Hello Jesse, Thank you for the suggestion. Probably would not work because the 638225 bushings are not tapered their entire length, but just tapered for a portion on each end. The center section is a cylinder. Also after the bushing has been in use for a while it can usually be stuck to the interior of the crankcase mounting boss and will be partially disintegrated during removal. I use Dow DC-4 during installation to help solve that problem, but it is not always effective. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/dc4.php OC = From: Jesse Wright Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:34 PM Subject: Bushings OC, As you well know I;m not a guru for fixes but if the bushings are tapered, why couldn't you loosen one of them at a time, slide it back, cut a inter tube to make one wrap, coat it with silicone grease and pull it back into position. This would give more area for the softer bushing to ride on and bring the mount back up to correct position. Just want to share a thought, Jesse


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    Time: 08:11:22 AM PST US
    From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings
    9/12/2015 Hello Mark, You wrote: 1) "The conical rubber bushings on ebay are actually $1.25 each. But with shipping the total is $22.22 for 8." Right you are, and that is a good price for those who can use the 22387 bushing. 2) "If the O-200 adapters do not work could something similar be made for the IO-240 BXB?" Maybe, but the real issue is not the configuration, cost (approximately $17.50), and availability of the CM part number 530740 (or its Lord J3608-1 substitute) end bushing, but the cost (approximately $70) , Durometer hardness (too soft), and non availability of the CM part number 638225 center tubular bushing. 3) " If you can draw them up I can get a quote for making them but your best bet may be to use the factory ones if you can get them." Yes, I intend to continue using the CM part number 530740 (or its Lord J3608-1 substitute) end bushing and keep searching for a better solution for the CM part number 638225 center tubular bushing. OC ========================================================= From: M Ketteing Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:30 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: IO-240 BxB Engine Mount Bushings Hello OC, If the O-200 adapters do not work could something similar be made for the IO-240 BXB? If you can draw them up I can get a quote for making them but your best bet may be to use the factory ones if you can get them. The conical rubber bushings on ebay are actually $1.25 each. But with shipping the total is $22.22 for 8. Mark




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