---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/09/16: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:52 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: A short story (John Forster) 2. 01:58 PM - gear leg gap (Alfred Rosa) 3. 02:47 PM - Re: gear leg gap (Robert Reed) 4. 02:49 PM - Re: gear leg gap (Tim Yoder) 5. 03:38 PM - Re: gear leg gap (jerzy krasinski) 6. 04:51 PM - Re: gear leg gap (Alfred Rosa) 7. 04:56 PM - Re: gear leg gap (Alfred Rosa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:24 AM PST US From: John Forster Subject: RE: KIS-List: Fw: Fwd: A short story QWwsDQoNCkl0IGlzIGZvciBzYWxlLiAgSXQgaGFzIGJlY29tZSBvYnZpb3VzIHRoYXQgd2l0aCBt eSBjdXJyZW50IG1peCBvZiBhdmlhdGlvbiBwcm9qZWN0cyAoYm90aCBmbHlpbmcgYW5kIGJ1aWxk aW5nKSB0aGF0IHRoZSBDcnVpc2VyIGlzbuKAmXQgZ29pbmcgdG8gZ2V0IGZpbmlzaGVkLiAgSSBo b3BlIHRvIGdldCBpdCB0byBzb21lb25lIHdobyBjYW4gYXBwcmVjaWF0ZSBpdCBhbmQgZ2V0IGl0 IGZseWluZy4NCg0KSm9obg0KDQpGcm9tOiBvd25lci1raXMtbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNz LmNvbSBbbWFpbHRvOm93bmVyLWtpcy1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tXSBPbiBCZWhh bGYgT2YgQWxmcmVkIFJvc2ENClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgTWF5IDA4LCAyMDE2IDEyOjMyIFBNDQpU bzoga2lzLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQ0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IEtJUy1MaXN0OiBGdzogRndk OiBBIHNob3J0IHN0b3J5DQoNCkpvaG4sDQpJcyB5b3VyIENydWlzZXIgcHJvamVjdCByZWFsbHkg Zm9yIHNhbGU/DQpJIHJlbWVtYmVyIHlvdSB3ZXJlIGVudGh1c2lhc3RpYyB5ZWFycyBhZ28uDQpB bCBSb3NhDQoNClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBpUGhvbmUNCg0KT24gTWF5IDgsIDIwMTYsIGF0IDEyOjA4 IFBNLCBKb2huIEZvcnN0ZXIgPGpmb3JzdGVyQGJhaXNjaC5jb208bWFpbHRvOmpmb3JzdGVyQGJh aXNjaC5jb20+PiB3cm90ZToNClRoaXMgaXNuJ3QgZnVubnk7IGl0J3Mgc2ltcGx5IG9mZmVuc2l2 ZS4gIEFuZCBJIHdvdWxkIGFzayB0aGF0IHRoaXMgZm9ydW0gcmVtYWlucyBhYm91dCBhaXJwbGFu ZXMuICBXZSBkb24ndCBuZWVkIHlldCBhbm90aGVyIHBsYWNlIHRvIHRyYWRlIHBvbGl0aWNhbCBq YWJzLg0KDQpKb2huIEZvcnN0ZXINCg0KT24gTWF5IDgsIDIwMTYsIGF0IDEwOjUwIEFNLCBLZW50 IFB5bGUgPGtlbnRweWxlQGlsYW5kLm5ldDxtYWlsdG86a2VudHB5bGVAaWxhbmQubmV0Pj4gd3Jv dGU6DQoNCmJ1dCBJIGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIGl0IHdvdWxkIHdvcmsgaW4gdG9kYXkncw0KUEMgQXRt b3NwaGVyZSENCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCkkgZG9uJ3QgY2FyZSB3aG8geW91IGFyZSAtLS0gdGhpcyBp cyBmdW5ueS4gIFRoaXMgaXMgYSBzdG9yeSBvZiBhIDE2IHllYXItb2xkIGJveSBmcm9tIFR5bGVy LCBUZXhhcyB0aGF0IHdvbiB0aGUgV29ybGQncyBTaG9ydGVzdCBFc3NheSBjb21wZXRpdGlvbi4N Cg0KDQoNCkhlIHdhcyBhd2FyZGVkIGEgc2Nob2xhcnNoaXAgYXQgVGV4YXMgQSAmIE0gVW5pdmVy c2l0eSBmb3IgaGlzIGltYWdpbmF0aW9uIGFuZCBodW1vci4NCg0KDQoNCkl0J3MgYW4gZXhhbXBs ZSBvZiBhYnNvbHV0ZSBicmlsbGlhbmNlLi4uDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KQSBjcmVhdGl2ZSB3cml0aW5n IGNsYXNzIHdhcyBhc2tlZCB0byB3cml0ZSBhIGNvbmNpc2UgZXNzYXkgY29udGFpbmluZyB0aGUg Zm9sbG93aW5nIGVsZW1lbnRzOg0KDQoNCg0KMSkgUmVsaWdpb24NCg0KDQoNCjIpIFJveWFsdHkN Cg0KDQoNCjMpIFBoeXNpY2FsIERpc2FiaWxpdHkNCg0KDQoNCjQpIFJhY2lzbQ0KDQoNCg0KNSkg SG9tb3NleHVhbGl0eQ0KDQoNCg0KVGhlIHByaXplLXdpbm5lciB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQoNCiInTXkg R29kIiwgY3JpZWQgdGhlIFF1ZWVuLCAiVGhhdCBvbmUtbGVnZ2VkIG5pZ2dlciBpcyBhIHF1ZWVy LiINCg0KDQoNCg0K ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:36 PM PST US Subject: KIS-List: gear leg gap From: Alfred Rosa Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:49 PM PST US From: Robert Reed Subject: Re: KIS-List: gear leg gap Al, Since I have not finished my project yet I hesitate to say anything but I d id fabricate a gear fairing using foam and fiberglass.=C2- I can show you the installed photos yet but you can see my steps and what the finished fa irings will look like on my web page.=C2- The only thing remaining is to split the fairings for installation and add the screws.=C2- (OH and paint which seems to be my damnation.) (LandingGearFairing.html) Hope this helps. Bob Reed From: Alfred Rosa To: kisbuilders Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 3:58 PM Subject: KIS-List: gear leg gap Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:49 PM PST US From: "Tim Yoder" Subject: RE: KIS-List: gear leg gap I made fairings for my TR-1 Tim _____ From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Rosa Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 1:58 PM Subject: KIS-List: gear leg gap Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:50 PM PST US From: jerzy krasinski Subject: Re: KIS-List: gear leg gap Alfred, In my KIS I started flying with the gap roughly the same size as yours.A ye ar later, after a lot of flying, I checked the gear and I found =C2-the f iberglass ground away a millimeter or so of aluminum from the gear.The gear flexes quite a bit depending on the load and somehow the aluminum gear get s in contact with the fiberglass,I increased the gap and I did a lot of gri nding on the gear to make =C2-its thickness even.I do not know if the sam e abrasion will happen with your gear, but it might.Watch the paint on the gear =C2-when you start flying if there are any signs of contact. Or incr ease the gap a little.I do not know if =C2-this gap creates a significant drag.=C2-I made fairings for the front gear and that made a few miles in speed.=C2- Jerzy On Monday, May 9, 2016 4:00 PM, Alfred Rosa wrote : Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: gear leg gap From: Alfred Rosa Yes the gap I have is probably not big enough to clear the flexing of the ge ar. We will see with time. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2016, at 6:35 PM, jerzy krasinski wrote: > > Alfred, > > In my KIS I started flying with the gap roughly the same size as yours. > A year later, after a lot of flying, I checked the gear and I found the f iberglass ground away a millimeter or so of aluminum from the gear. > The gear flexes quite a bit depending on the load and somehow the aluminum gear gets in contact with the fiberglass, > I increased the gap and I did a lot of grinding on the gear to make its t hickness even. > I do not know if the same abrasion will happen with your gear, but it migh t. > Watch the paint on the gear when you start flying if there are any signs o f contact. Or increase the gap a little. > I do not know if this gap creates a significant drag. > I made fairings for the front gear and that made a few miles in speed. > > Jerzy > > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 4:00 PM, Alfred Rosa wrote: > > > Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: gear leg gap From: Alfred Rosa Nice job Bob. I don't know the feasibility of screwing it stationary to the bottom since the gear will flex dramatically. Maybe best to leave them off . Al Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Robert Reed wrote: > > Al, > > Since I have not finished my project yet I hesitate to say anything but I d id fabricate a gear fairing using foam and fiberglass. I can show you the i nstalled photos yet but you can see my steps and what the finished fairings w ill look like on my web page. The only thing remaining is to split the fair ings for installation and add the screws. (OH and paint which seems to be m y damnation.) > > (LandingGearFairing.html) > > Hope this helps. > > Bob Reed > > > > From: Alfred Rosa > To: kisbuilders > Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 3:58 PM > Subject: KIS-List: gear leg gap > > Has anyone done anything about the gap where the gear leg goes through the wing fairing? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.