---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/13/16: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:05 PM - Crack by landing gear? (Owen Baker) 2. 07:42 PM - Crack by landing gear? (Owen Baker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:22 PM PST US From: "Owen Baker " Subject: KIS-List: Crack by landing gear? 6/13/2016 Hello Tim, Thanks for the response and the photos. You wrote: 1) "I just pop riveted them in through the inner fuselage skin." Very clever. What installation sequence did you follow to ensure that the anchor nuts would eventually be accurately placed where the holes in the aluminum panels are? I may have to reconsider placing some similar panels on my plane. I am thinking along the line of riveting anchor nuts to one inch square pieces of sheet aluminum or thin flat panel fiber glass and then using epoxy to fasten the squares in place in the fuselage interior. 2) "None of them have failed in the last 18 years." Good show. OC PS: How many hours do you have on your plane? I have been flying for about 12 1/2 years (first flight in Nov 2003) and have just gone over 500 hours. =================================== From: Tim Yoder Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:25 PM Subject: Emailing: 52TY 001.jpg Hello OC, These aren't the best photos but you can see 5 anchor nuts In the first photo and 2 in the second. I just pop riveted them in through the inner fuselage skin. None of them have failed in the last 18 years. I will send two more photos of the fairings, a total of seven pieces. Tim ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:14 PM PST US From: "Owen Baker " Subject: KIS-List: Crack by landing gear? 6/13/2016 Hello Tim, Thank you again for the response and the photos. 1) Re photo 005. A) It appears as if the wing is molded right to the fuselage -- I can see no fairing seams at all. How did you achieve that effect? Is the wing in fact still removable? B) Did you dimple the aluminum sheets for the machine screw flush heads? Did you then also have to countersink the exterior fuselage skin? C) Are there counter sunk washers under the screw heads?** 2) Re photo 006. A) I am stunned at the shine and cleanliness of the belly of your plane. How about a few words on how you achieved that? B) What is the small object on the belly center forward of the landing gear? It looks like the head of a brass bolt. Thanks again and congratulations on which may be the most refined KIS TR-1 that has been built. OC **PS: Have you ever considered using the 100 degree, counter sink, 6 lobe (Torx) drive, flat head screws from Microfasteners (see here): https://www.microfasteners.com/home.php?cat=620 I consider them vastly superior to Phillips drive screws. ============================================================= From: Tim Yoder Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:32 PM Subject: Emailing: 52TY 005.jpg Photo 005 is of the left main gear front to back. You can see the leading edge of the wing and how aluminum panel extends under the bottom of the leading edge. About 5/8" I think. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.