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1. 05:08 AM - Re: Rotax 912 in KIS (Graham Brighton)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Rotax 912 in KIS (Graham Brighton)
3. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: Baggage station for W&B (Graham Brighton)
4. 05:26 AM - Re: Rebuilding KIS TR-1 N78AK (Graham Brighton)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 in KIS |
Howdy John ... Re Rotex ... well anything's possible i guess ... but
realistically 100 HP say is only going to under power the TR-1 ... and
ensure it fails to for fill its design capabilities ..,
Just my 2 bobs worth .. ,
Cheers
Graham
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From: "JohnForde" <40.john@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Rotax 912 in KIS
>
> Has anyone ever put a Rotax 912 series engine in a KIS or even attempted
> it?
> It's about the same weight as a Limbach. Would a Rotax engine mount from
> another aircraft be usable? Limbach cowling?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469071#469071
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 in KIS |
Howdy John ... Re Rotex ... well anything's possible i guess ... but
realistically 100 HP say is only going to under power the TR-1 ... and
ensure it fails to for fill its design capabilities ..,
Just my 2 bobs worth .. ,
Cheers
Graham
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From: "JohnForde" <40.john@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Rotax 912 in KIS
>
> Has anyone ever put a Rotax 912 series engine in a KIS or even attempted
> it?
> It's about the same weight as a Limbach. Would a Rotax engine mount from
> another aircraft be usable? Limbach cowling?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469071#469071
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage station for W&B |
Hi OC,
Hearing you ... but short of building a Pyramid say ...
immortality is difficult ... best i think to Savour your amazing and rare
accomplishment and success of Building AND Flying your own flying machine
.... which could only have been possible with the application of those
various Tools etc and specially that much more than Pea sized Brain of yours
; )
Cheers to you ... Savour it and enjoy i say ..,
Graham .
.
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From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 9:43 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Re: Baggage station for W&B
>
> 5/5/2017
>
> Hello Keith, Thanks for the follow up. You wrote:
>
> 1) "... what has become obvious for me know, is that it is not possible
> to build
> the KIS without the wing positioning jig drawing/template, as no
> dimensions is given for the rear spar position...."
>
> I guess that I am in a particularly unknowing status on the subject of
> rear spar positioning because no drawing or template
> was included in my kit. The reason for that is that I had the factory
> build a "quick build" fuselage bottom for me so the insert locations
> for the wing spars and landing gear were already finished when my fuselage
> arrived. Some one must have decided that providing
> a drawing to me for a wing positioning jig to prepare the fuselage would
> be a waste since I had no need for the jig.**
>
> 2) "I am also never going to build another plane again...."
>
> What I find pretty sad as I contemplate that fact for me is that both the
> knowledge packed into my little pea brain and all of the
> materials and tools that I still have left over will probably never be
> used by some unknown future airplane builder, but instead will be
> scattered to the
> winds or sent to a land fill.
>
> OC
>
> **PS: There is a real gotcha story associated with my KIS TR-1 fuselage.
> Somewhere along the line someone at Tri-R decided to change the amount of
> overlap
> between the fuselage sides tops and the bottoms as they progressed from
> creating the two place fuselages to creating the four place fuselages. The
> result was some confusion and my fuselage top and bottom as first received
> were mismatched and could not be glued together. So Rich shipped to me a
> new fuselage
> top and had me return ship the first one back to him, both at his cost.
> Any profit gained from selling my kit to me must have been lost in the
> additional shipment costs
> that Rich paid.
>
> ====================================
>
> From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 4:07 AM
> To: Owen Baker
> Subject: Re: Baggage station for W&B
>
> OC
>
> what has become obvious for me know, is that it is not possible to build
> the KIS without the wing positioning jig drawing/template, as no
> dimensions
> is given for the rear spar position, Rich/ Vance/ Whoever must have
> simply
> worked out, based on the rear wing rib dimensions and thickness of the
> rear
> wing spars where exactly the aft face of the wing spar would have been
> and
> made that drawing accordingly .
>
> I remember at the time being quite impressed when i offered up the wing to
> the fuselage for the first time, that the gap was negligible at the
> interface between the rear spar of the wing and the rear space in the
> fuselage.
>
> have concluded however ( even without taking the measurements) that i
> need
> to use a STA for the baggage further back than STA 91 ( i wonder where i
> got
> this figure as it also was the same one in the original thread- too much
> of a
> coincidence- and not a logical point, since it has to be at least in the
> range of STA 95 - STA 100.
>
>
> Keith
>
> PS I am also never going to build another plane again ( done that twice
> and
> got the T shirt and cant understand now where i ever got the time to
> complete them etc ).
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding KIS TR-1 N78AK |
Howdy Mark,
Very interesting Mods you have described ...
thanks for sharing ... sounds easy as you describe the work below ... but
geez getting in there etc post construction yikes !! ... hoping you will
post some Pics when you get done ...,
For now,
With Thanks
Graham
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From: "M Ketteing" <aeromomentum@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 11:21 PM
Subject: KIS-List: Rebuilding KIS TR-1 N78AK
>
> I am in the long process of rebuilding my TR-1 and have been making a few
> changes.
>
> I removed the seat bulkhead and am using my carbon seat backs I made years
> ago and adding recline. It is absolutely amazing! I can recline to about
> 80 degrees! Super comfortable. More so than domestic first class with no
> risk of loosing your seat. I would have no problem sleeping for hours.
> Very open and roomy. It also makes getting to the luggage area very nice
> with the seat backs folded forward. No need for a baggage door at all. Of
> course you can't recline fully if the baggage area is full. I did move the
> baggage bulkhead back a little and made it a real ring bulkhead with
> removable cover.
>
> To replace the structure of the seat back bulkhead I am adding a carbon
> full flat hoop bulkhead where the seat backs were. At the same time I am
> adding a flat carbon hoop at the front of the door opening and carbon on
> the roof between these two hoops. It will add more rollover protection
> and stiffen up the roof where the door hinges mount.
>
> I also lowered the added floor under the rudder pedals about an inch and
> made new rudder pedals with the outboard ones turning outboard and the
> rudder cables now along the fuselage side instead of in the center. This
> eliminates the need for any center console or obstruction in front of the
> seats.
>
> These changes really change the whole feel and character of the airplane
> from being a bit cramped and not very comfortable for long flights to
> being fairly roomy and comfortable.
>
> Mark K
>
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