KIS-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/16/17


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 05:11 AM - Soft spot on inside wing (pastormac@comcast.net)
     2. 07:16 AM - Re: Soft spot on inside wing (Robert Reed)
     3. 07:27 AM - Fw: Softness in wing? (Owen Baker)
     4. 08:12 AM - Re: Fw: Softness in wing? (Keith.Miller@esa.int)
     5. 09:19 AM - Re: Fw: Softness in wing? (pastormac@comcast.net)
     6. 12:36 PM - Re: Soft spot on inside wing (pastormac@comcast.net)
     7. 01:07 PM - Re: Soft spot on inside wing (pastormac@comcast.net)
     8. 01:45 PM - Re: Soft spot on inside wing (Robert Reed)
     9. 07:26 PM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (Ed Hanson)
    10. 07:41 PM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (Ed Hanson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:11:42 AM PST US
    From: pastormac@comcast.net
    Subject: Soft spot on inside wing
    Hi Guys, My plane has developed a soft spot on the wing where I step up to enter the c ockpit on the pilots side. The copilot's side is fine as is the rest of the w ings. I have a stepping strip placed over the paint where I step up and that is where I can actually push in with my hand and the composite gives in. I' ve included a pic. Not that good of one, put you can see where the black str ip is. The soft spot is right in the middle of the black strip. Any suggesti ons would be greatly appreciated!! To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 3:02 AM, KIS-List Digest Server <kis-list@matronics.co m> wrote: > > * > > ========================= ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ========================= ======================== > > Today's complete KIS-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the KIS-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm l&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt &Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > ========================= ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ========================= ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > KIS-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 05/15/17: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (pastormac@comcast.net ) > 2. 06:04 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (M Ketteing) > 3. 10:32 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (Randy Ott)


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    Time: 07:16:19 AM PST US
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Soft spot on inside wing
    Steve, Can you determine if the soft spot is over the fuel bay or not?=C2- If it is over the fuel bay area then I would recommend drilling a small 1/8 inch hole thru the outer skin (carefully) in the center of the soft spot and ch ecking for fuel contamination.=C2- If you find that the foam core has bee n contaminated with fuel the soft spot will spread as the fuel eats more of the foam.=C2- The solution would be to open up a small part of the outer skin of the wing just big enough to ensure access to the affected area,=C2 - repair the leak in the fuel cell and then fill the area with foam and g lass over. If it is not a fuel contamination problem the drilled=C2-opening=C2-sho uld allow you to inject an epoxy mix into the cavity.=C2- The hole will b e simple to repair with a bit of epoxy and flox. Just my .02 cents worth. Bob Reed PS:=C2- I am making an assumption that the TR-1 Wings used the foam core like the TR-4. From: "pastormac@comcast.net" <pastormac@comcast.net> To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:12 AM Subject: KIS-List: Soft spot on inside wing Hi Guys, My plane has developed a soft spot on the wing where I step up to enter the cockpit on the pilots side. The copilot's side is fine as is the rest of t he wings. I have a stepping strip placed over the paint where I step up and that is where I can actually push in with my hand and the composite gives in. I've included a pic. Not that good of one, put you can see where the bl ack strip is. The soft spot is right in the middle of the black strip. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 3:02 AM, KIS-List Digest Server <kis-list@matronics.c om> wrote: > > * > > ======================== >=C2- Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete KIS-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below.=C2- The .html file includes the Digest form atted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation.=C2- The .txt file includes the plain ASCII vers ion > of the KIS-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > >=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 &View=html&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > Text Version: > >=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 &View=txt&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > ======================== ======================= >=C2- EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --------------------------------------- ------------------- >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- KIS-List Digest Archive >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --- >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Tota l Messages Posted Mon 05/15/17: 4 >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --------------------------------------- ------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >=C2- =C2- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (pastor mac@comcast.net) >=C2- =C2- 2. 06:04 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (M Kett eing) >=C2- =C2- 3. 10:32 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (Randy Ott)


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    Time: 07:27:30 AM PST US
    From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Fw: Softness in wing?
    From: Owen Baker Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Softness in wing? 5/16/2017 Hello Stephen, I would not attempt to analyze the problem without actually seeing it personally, but it could be a very serious problem requiring some expert composite aircraft repair training to help solve. Apparently you meant wing ribs rather than spars in your description of the location of the soft spot with regard to how far it is from the fuselage. Just as important is where is it located fore and aft. Is it over the portion of the wing that contains fuel? If it is over the fuel tank you could find yourself stepping into fuel someday. I recommend that you ask for help from the KIS Matronics group by forwarding this email to the group. Also see here: http://www.mansbergeraircraft.com/ http://www.aviationpros.com/article/11105657/the-a-b-cs-of-aircraft-composite-repair http://www.deltatechops.com/mro-capabilities/view/category/composite-maintenance OC ========================================== From: pastormac@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:24 PM Subject: Softness in wing? Hi Owen, Trust all is well? I had a question. Where I step on the Wong to enter the plane a soft spot has developed. I have a strip to protect the paint and thought about removing it and drilling a small hole and try and eject some epoxy in the area. Any thoughts? The area seems to be between the two spars. The one close to the door and the next spar. It's about a 6 by 6 area or a little larger. To our success, Stephen McIntosh


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    Time: 08:12:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: Softness in wing?
    From: Keith.Miller@esa.int
    Can we determine "how soft is soft ", is it possible to measure how much weight needs to be applied to start the surface deflection , a matter of a couple of pounds or many more. Also can you measure the distances from the leading edge backwards and distance outboard from the fuselage, this will determine if its over fuel or not and if there is a wing rib anywhere close to it . Do you step on the wing from the front or the back ? Keith From: "Owen Baker " <bakerocb@cox.net> Subject: KIS-List: Fw: Softness in wing? Sent by: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com From: Owen Baker Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Softness in wing? 5/16/2017 Hello Stephen, I would not attempt to analyze the problem without actually seeing it personally, but it could be a very serious problem requiring some expert composite aircraft repair training to help solve. Apparently you meant wing ribs rather than spars in your description of the location of the soft spot with regard to how far it is from the fuselage. Just as important is where is it located fore and aft. Is it over the portion of the wing that contains fuel? If it is over the fuel tank you could find yourself stepping into fuel someday. I recommend that you ask for help from the KIS Matronics group by forwarding this email to the group. Also see here: http://www.mansbergeraircraft.com/ http://www.aviationpros.com/article/11105657/the-a-b-cs-of-aircraft-composite-repair http://www.deltatechops.com/mro-capabilities/view/category/composite-maintenance OC ========================================== From: pastormac@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:24 PM Subject: Softness in wing? Hi Owen, Trust all is well? I had a question. Where I step on the Wong to enter the plane a soft spot has developed. I have a strip to protect the paint and thought about removing it and drilling a small hole and try and eject some epoxy in the area. Any thoughts? The area seems to be between the two spars. The one close to the door and the next spar. It's about a 6 by 6 area or a little larger. To our success, Stephen McIntosh This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only. The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its content is not permitted. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender. Please consider the environment before printing this email. This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only. The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its content is not permitted. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender. Please consider the environment before printing this email.


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    Time: 09:19:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: Softness in wing?
    From: pastormac@comcast.net
    Not near fuel cell. I step on the wing from the back of the wing over the flaps which I have in down position. You can push down on the spot with little pressure before it starts to give. To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Owen Baker <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote: > > > > From: Owen Baker > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:42 AM > To: pastormac@comcast.net > Subject: Re: Softness in wing? > > 5/16/2017 > > Hello Stephen, I would not attempt to analyze the problem without actually > seeing it personally, but it could be a very serious problem requiring some > expert composite aircraft repair training to help solve. > > Apparently you meant wing ribs rather than spars in your description of the > location of the soft spot with regard to how far it is from the fuselage. > Just as important is where is it located fore and aft. Is it over the > portion of the wing that contains fuel? If it is over the fuel tank you > could find yourself stepping into fuel someday. > > I recommend that you ask for help from the KIS Matronics group by forwarding > this email to the group. > > Also see here: > > http://www.mansbergeraircraft.com/ > > http://www.aviationpros.com/article/11105657/the-a-b-cs-of-aircraft-composite-repair > > http://www.deltatechops.com/mro-capabilities/view/category/composite-maintenance > > OC > > ========================================== > > From: pastormac@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:24 PM > To: Owen Baker > Subject: Softness in wing? > > Hi Owen, > Trust all is well? I had a question. Where I step on the Wong to enter the > plane a soft spot has developed. I have a strip to protect the paint and > thought about removing it and drilling a small hole and try and eject some > epoxy in the area. Any thoughts? The area seems to be between the two > spars. The one close to the door and the next spar. It's about a 6 by 6 area > or a little larger. > > To our success, > Stephen McIntosh > > >


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    Time: 12:36:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soft spot on inside wing
    From: pastormac@comcast.net
    Thanks Bob!! To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote: > > Steve, > > Can you determine if the soft spot is over the fuel bay or not? If it is o ver the fuel bay area then I would recommend drilling a small 1/8 inch hole t hru the outer skin (carefully) in the center of the soft spot and checking f or fuel contamination. If you find that the foam core has been contaminated with fuel the soft spot will spread as the fuel eats more of the foam. The solution would be to open up a small part of the outer skin of the wing jus t big enough to ensure access to the affected area, repair the leak in the f uel cell and then fill the area with foam and glass over. > > If it is not a fuel contamination problem the drilled opening should allow you to inject an epoxy mix into the cavity. The hole will be simple to rep air with a bit of epoxy and flox. > > Just my .02 cents worth. > > Bob Reed > > > PS: I am making an assumption that the TR-1 Wings used the foam core like the TR-4. > > > From: "pastormac@comcast.net" <pastormac@comcast.net> > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:12 AM > Subject: KIS-List: Soft spot on inside wing > > Hi Guys, > My plane has developed a soft spot on the wing where I step up to enter th e cockpit on the pilots side. The copilot's side is fine as is the rest of t he wings. I have a stepping strip placed over the paint where I step up and t hat is where I can actually push in with my hand and the composite gives in. I've included a pic. Not that good of one, put you can see where the black s trip is. The soft spot is right in the middle of the black strip. Any sugges tions would be greatly appreciated!! > > To our success, Stephen McIntosh > > > On May 16, 2017, at 3:02 AM, KIS-List Digest Server <kis-list@matronics. com> wrote: > > > > * > > > > ======================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ======================== > > > > Today's complete KIS-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatte d > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the KIS-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h tml&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > > Text Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t xt&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > > > > ====================== > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ====================== > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > KIS-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Mon 05/15/17: 4 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (pastormac@comcast.ne t) > > 2. 06:04 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (M Ketteing) > > 3. 10:32 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (Randy Ott) >


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    Time: 01:07:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soft spot on inside wing
    From: pastormac@comcast.net
    Hi Bob, Do you know what type of form core is in the wing? How many layers of fiber glass cloth on the external skin? To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote: > > Steve, > > Can you determine if the soft spot is over the fuel bay or not? If it is o ver the fuel bay area then I would recommend drilling a small 1/8 inch hole t hru the outer skin (carefully) in the center of the soft spot and checking f or fuel contamination. If you find that the foam core has been contaminated with fuel the soft spot will spread as the fuel eats more of the foam. The solution would be to open up a small part of the outer skin of the wing jus t big enough to ensure access to the affected area, repair the leak in the f uel cell and then fill the area with foam and glass over. > > If it is not a fuel contamination problem the drilled opening should allow you to inject an epoxy mix into the cavity. The hole will be simple to rep air with a bit of epoxy and flox. > > Just my .02 cents worth. > > Bob Reed > > > PS: I am making an assumption that the TR-1 Wings used the foam core like the TR-4. > > > From: "pastormac@comcast.net" <pastormac@comcast.net> > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:12 AM > Subject: KIS-List: Soft spot on inside wing > > Hi Guys, > My plane has developed a soft spot on the wing where I step up to enter th e cockpit on the pilots side. The copilot's side is fine as is the rest of t he wings. I have a stepping strip placed over the paint where I step up and t hat is where I can actually push in with my hand and the composite gives in. I've included a pic. Not that good of one, put you can see where the black s trip is. The soft spot is right in the middle of the black strip. Any sugges tions would be greatly appreciated!! > > To our success, Stephen McIntosh > > > On May 16, 2017, at 3:02 AM, KIS-List Digest Server <kis-list@matronics. com> wrote: > > > > * > > > > ======================== > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > ======================== > > > > Today's complete KIS-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatte d > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the KIS-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h tml&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > > Text Version: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t xt&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > > > > ====================== > > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > > ====================== > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > KIS-List Digest Archive > > --- > > Total Messages Posted Mon 05/15/17: 4 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Today's Message Index: > > ---------------------- > > > > 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (pastormac@comcast.ne t) > > 2. 06:04 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (M Ketteing) > > 3. 10:32 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies (Randy Ott) >


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    Time: 01:45:59 PM PST US
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Soft spot on inside wing
    Steve, I can't recall ever having heard the type of foam or the number of glass la yers utilized.=C2- I know that is was a rather dense foam and you can pro bably examine it by looking at some of the inspection panels if they weren' t filled in on the sides. By the way, there is a copy of the TR1 Builders manual on my web site.=C2 - There are also a number of construction photos for the TR1. http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/KIS-TR1-Web/Builders_Manual.html Bob From: "pastormac@comcast.net" <pastormac@comcast.net> To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:07 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Soft spot on inside wing Hi Bob,Do you know what type of form core is in the wing? =C2-How many la yers of fiber glass cloth on the external skin?=C2- To our success, Stephen McIntosh=C2- On May 16, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote: Steve, Can you determine if the soft spot is over the fuel bay or not?=C2- If it is over the fuel bay area then I would recommend drilling a small 1/8 inch hole thru the outer skin (carefully) in the center of the soft spot and ch ecking for fuel contamination.=C2- If you find that the foam core has bee n contaminated with fuel the soft spot will spread as the fuel eats more of the foam.=C2- The solution would be to open up a small part of the outer skin of the wing just big enough to ensure access to the affected area,=C2 - repair the leak in the fuel cell and then fill the area with foam and g lass over. If it is not a fuel contamination problem the drilled=C2-opening=C2-sho uld allow you to inject an epoxy mix into the cavity.=C2- The hole will b e simple to repair with a bit of epoxy and flox. Just my .02 cents worth. Bob Reed PS:=C2- I am making an assumption that the TR-1 Wings used the foam core like the TR-4. From: "pastormac@comcast.net" <pastormac@comcast.net> To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:12 AM Subject: KIS-List: Soft spot on inside wing Hi Guys, My plane has developed a soft spot on the wing where I step up to enter the cockpit on the pilots side. The copilot's side is fine as is the rest of t he wings. I have a stepping strip placed over the paint where I step up and that is where I can actually push in with my hand and the composite gives in. I've included a pic. Not that good of one, put you can see where the bl ack strip is. The soft spot is right in the middle of the black strip. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! To our success, Stephen McIntosh > On May 16, 2017, at 3:02 AM, KIS-List Digest Server <kis-list@matronics.c om> wrote: > > * > > ======================== >=C2- Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete KIS-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below.=C2- The .html file includes the Digest form atted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation.=C2- The .txt file includes the plain ASCII vers ion > of the KIS-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > >=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 &View=html&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > Text Version: > >=C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 &View=txt&Chapter 17-05-15&Archive=KIS > > > ====================== >=C2- EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --------------------------------------- ------------------- >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- KIS-List Digest Archive >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2 - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --- >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Tota l Messages Posted Mon 05/15/17: 4 >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- --------------------------------------- ------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >=C2- =C2- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (pastor mac@comcast.net) >=C2- =C2- 2. 06:04 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (M Kett eing) >=C2- =C2- 3. 10:32 AM - Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies=C2- (Randy Ott)


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    Time: 07:26:35 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Hanson" <hansoncp@netnitco.net>
    Subject: Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Reed To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:19 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies Congratulations Ed, That is wonderful news and Wind Dancer is a beautiful airplane. I am too familiar with how life can get in the way of our projects and it's a testament to your perseverance to see it through to completion. I look forward to hearing more reports on your experience with the flight testing. Bob Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Ed Hanson <hansoncp@netnitco.net> To: Kis Builders <kis-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:48 PM Subject: KIS-List: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies After a long build time interrupted by life in many ways, I was able to finally take my Cruiser around the pattern a few times last Wednesday. I had made several long and high land backs on our VPZ 7000' runway earlier so I knew it would fly but wanted the initial pattern flight to depart east over fields. Waiting for acceptable weather and trying to align schedules was like getting the planets to align. Light rain fell on the hangar roof when I pulled the plane out but the weather held off long enough to do the deed. The plane flew very nicely and since I followed the manual's flight test advice for the first flight landing with no flaps, and was carrying a little extra speed on this landing for pucker factor, it just wanted to keep flying until we both decided it was time for a nice touchdown. I look forward to another get acquainted flight soon before starting the phase one testing in depth. I would like to thank all the KIS list members and builders for their advice and help thru the years and also Kent Pyle and Galin for letting me get some stick time in their planes.I felt very comfortable on the first flight. I have an injected Lycoming experimental IO-360 running dual p-mags, and factory suggested Sensenich prop. For good luck on the first flight, I wore my dad's 1929 flying helmet from his OX5 Swallow days and complemented it with my Light Speed Zulu headset. Seemed to work. Post flight inspection didn't turn up any problems. My tail feather N71EJ stand for the year we were married and Ed and Judi. There is a video of the takeoff on our EAA Chapter 104 Face book page.


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    Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Hanson" <hansoncp@netnitco.net>
    Subject: Re: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies
    Bob, I spent many an hour checking out the great information on your web site during the build. Thanks for the effort building the site. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Reed To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:19 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies Congratulations Ed, That is wonderful news and Wind Dancer is a beautiful airplane. I am too familiar with how life can get in the way of our projects and it's a testament to your perseverance to see it through to completion. I look forward to hearing more reports on your experience with the flight testing. Bob Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Ed Hanson <hansoncp@netnitco.net> To: Kis Builders <kis-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 9:48 PM Subject: KIS-List: KIS Cruiser WindDancer flies After a long build time interrupted by life in many ways, I was able to finally take my Cruiser around the pattern a few times last Wednesday. I had made several long and high land backs on our VPZ 7000' runway earlier so I knew it would fly but wanted the initial pattern flight to depart east over fields. Waiting for acceptable weather and trying to align schedules was like getting the planets to align. Light rain fell on the hangar roof when I pulled the plane out but the weather held off long enough to do the deed. The plane flew very nicely and since I followed the manual's flight test advice for the first flight landing with no flaps, and was carrying a little extra speed on this landing for pucker factor, it just wanted to keep flying until we both decided it was time for a nice touchdown. I look forward to another get acquainted flight soon before starting the phase one testing in depth. I would like to thank all the KIS list members and builders for their advice and help thru the years and also Kent Pyle and Galin for letting me get some stick time in their planes.I felt very comfortable on the first flight. I have an injected Lycoming experimental IO-360 running dual p-mags, and factory suggested Sensenich prop. For good luck on the first flight, I wore my dad's 1929 flying helmet from his OX5 Swallow days and complemented it with my Light Speed Zulu headset. Seemed to work. Post flight inspection didn't turn up any problems. My tail feather N71EJ stand for the year we were married and Ed and Judi. There is a video of the takeoff on our EAA Chapter 104 Face book page.




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