---------------------------------------------------------- KIS-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/25/17: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 PM - Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Rob) 2. 06:07 PM - Re: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Alfred Rosa) 3. 06:59 PM - Re: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Rob) 4. 07:23 PM - Re: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Tim Yoder) 5. 07:27 PM - Re: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Tim Yoder) 6. 11:53 PM - Re: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 (Owen C Baker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:36 PM PST US From: Rob Subject: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake assembly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete assembly and brakes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned would be also appreciated) Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN Rob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:04 PM PST US From: Alfred Rosa Subject: Re: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 You need O.C. Baker's input. He replaced his with Grove brakes and got much better results. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rob wrote: > > Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake > assembly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete assembly > and brakes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 > > > Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned would be > also appreciated) > > > Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN > > > Rob > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 From: Rob I guess I need to talk to OC. OC if you are out there I need to talk to you about replacing the existing matco brake assembly on the KIS TR1. That is to say: the brake calipers, the brake pads, and the rotors Rob On 06/25/2017 06:06 PM, Alfred Rosa wrote: > You need O.C. Baker's input. He replaced his with Grove brakes and > got much better results. > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rob > wrote: > > > > > Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake > assembly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete > assembly and brakes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 > > > Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned > would be also appreciated) > > > Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN > > > Rob > > =================================== > List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List > =================================== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > =================================== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:17 PM PST US From: "Tim Yoder" Subject: RE: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 Hi Rob, My TR-1 is kit#47 and there were a number of KIS owners with Matco brake problems including me. In effective stopping and having to replace pads every 50 hours or so. The problem was not with the brakes but the geometry of the brake peddles, they are to short and don't apply the correct pressure at the pads. As I recall I was getting only a few hundred pounds of pressure and we need about 2000 lbs., as I recall. I lengthened my peddles and got the proper pressure at the pads and they work very well now. Probably not quite as good as Grove but acceptable and allot less expensive than changing. My pressure numbers may not be correct but the difference is dramatic. I met with the owner of Matco Mfg. at Oshkosh in 2010, I think, and used his demonstration rig to see the difference the brake peddle geometry made and it worked great for me. I also upgraded to his new rotor design and replaced the piston pucks. He had all the necessary replacement parts. I would recommend giving them a call. Tim N52TY -----Original Message----- From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:48 PM Subject: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake assembly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete assembly and brakes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned would be also appreciated) Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN Rob ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:23 PM PST US From: "Tim Yoder" Subject: RE: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 OC is bakerocb@cox.net Tim _____ From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:59 PM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 I guess I need to talk to OC. OC if you are out there I need to talk to you about replacing the existing matco brake assembly on the KIS TR1. That is to say: the brake calipers, the brake pads, and the rotors Rob On 06/25/2017 06:06 PM, Alfred Rosa wrote: You need O.C. Baker's input. He replaced his with Grove brakes and got much better results. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rob wrote: Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake assembly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete assembly and brakes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned would be also appreciated) Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN Rob =================================== List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List =================================== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com =================================== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:07 PM PST US From: Owen C Baker Subject: Re: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for KIS TR1 6/27/2017 Hello Rob, I am in hospital right now -- spaced out on drugs. Go to KIS archive search. Search for this subject in my posts. Please let me know if you have any questions. OC Sent from my iPad --------------- > On Jun 25, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Tim Yoder wrote: > > OC is bakerocb@cox.net > > Tim > > From: owner-kis-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kis-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:59 PM > To: kis-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: KIS-List: Matco Brake assembly for K > > I guess I need to talk to OC. > > OC if you are out there I need to talk to you about replacing the existin g matco brake assembly on the > KIS TR1. That is to say: the brake calipers, the brake pads, and the roto rs > > Rob ---------------- > >> On 06/25/2017 06:06 PM, Alfred Rosa wrote: >> You need O.C. Baker's input. He replaced his with Grove brakes and got m uch better results. >> >>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Rob wrote: >>> >>> Anybody have experience in installing or replacing the matco brake assem bly on the KIS TR1? I am in need of replacing the complete assembly and bra kes (exclusive of the master cyl) on my 1997 KIS TR1 >>> >>> >>> Need any input as to parts needed and how to (lessons learned would be a lso appreciated) >>> >>> >>> Located in Saint Johns, AZ , KSJN >>> >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> ======================== =========== >>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kis-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KIS-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kis-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kis-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.